The Liberal Thread #2 - No Debate Please

[va32h]

Is it me, or are there are a few neo-cons who suffer from selective morals?

Are you kidding? This is the cornerstone of the party.

It's why Rush Limbaugh can rail about lazy welfare cheats, although he spent years living off unemployment himself.

It's why Bill Clinton's Vietnam deferment was proof that he was an unpatriotic, draft-dodging coward but the deferments of Bush, Cheney, DeLay, Frist, Gingrich, Hastert, Kenneth Lay, Limbaugh (again), Bill O'Reilly, Quayle, Romney, Rove, Justice Souter, Kenneth Starr, and Justice Thomas - among others - are totally irrelevant to their worthiness as leaders and Americans.

It's why Newt Gingrich could champion the party of family values even while conducting multiple adulterous affairs and trying to work out a divorce settlement with his wife as she lay in the hospital receiving treatment for cancer.

It's why the Republicans can argue that government interference in the private sector is a bad thing when it refers to corporations but a good thing when it refers to what you do in your bedroom and who you do it with.

It is why McCain championed campaign finance reform laws until those laws became inconvenient to him.

It is why Huckabee says in one breath "we should share and debate our faith, but never seek to impose it" and then in another "we should amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards."

It's why Roger Stone (a Republican bigwig who heads an anti-Hillary 527 called Citizens United Not Timid") can tsk tsk the Elliot Spitzer scandal, despite having been forced to resign a consulting position with Bob Dole when it was revealed that he and his wife placed "swinger" ads on various websites and magazines.

It's why the conservative motto is "personal responsibility" but only when it refers to actual people, not corporations in need of government bailouts.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Are you kidding? This is the cornerstone of the party.

It's why Rush Limbaugh can rail about lazy welfare cheats, although he spent years living off unemployment himself.

It's why Bill Clinton's Vietnam deferment was proof that he was an unpatriotic, draft-dodging coward but the deferments of Bush, Cheney, DeLay, Frist, Gingrich, Hastert, Kenneth Lay, Limbaugh (again), Bill O'Reilly, Quayle, Romney, Rove, Justice Souter, Kenneth Starr, and Justice Thomas - among others - are totally irrelevant to their worthiness as leaders and Americans.

It's why Newt Gingrich could champion the party of family values even while conducting multiple adulterous affairs and trying to work out a divorce settlement with his wife as she lay in the hospital receiving treatment for cancer.

It's why the Republicans can argue that government interference in the private sector is a bad thing when it refers to corporations but a good thing when it refers to what you do in your bedroom and who you do it with.

It is why McCain championed campaign finance reform laws until those laws became inconvenient to him.

It is why Huckabee says in one breath "we should share and debate our faith, but never seek to impose it" and then in another "we should amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards."

It's why Roger Stone (a Republican bigwig who heads an anti-Hillary 527 called Citizens United Not Timid") can tsk tsk the Elliot Spitzer scandal, despite having been forced to resign a consulting position with Bob Dole when it was revealed that he and his wife placed "swinger" ads on various websites and magazines.

It's why the conservative motto is "personal responsibility" but only when it refers to actual people, not corporations in need of government bailouts.

EXCELLENT post! Thanks.

 

[barbeml]

Are you kidding? This is the cornerstone of the party.

It's why Rush Limbaugh can rail about lazy welfare cheats, although he spent years living off unemployment himself.

It's why Bill Clinton's Vietnam deferment was proof that he was an unpatriotic, draft-dodging coward but the deferments of Bush, Cheney, DeLay, Frist, Gingrich, Hastert, Kenneth Lay, Limbaugh (again), Bill O'Reilly, Quayle, Romney, Rove, Justice Souter, Kenneth Starr, and Justice Thomas - among others - are totally irrelevant to their worthiness as leaders and Americans.

It's why Newt Gingrich could champion the party of family values even while conducting multiple adulterous affairs and trying to work out a divorce settlement with his wife as she lay in the hospital receiving treatment for cancer.

It's why the Republicans can argue that government interference in the private sector is a bad thing when it refers to corporations but a good thing when it refers to what you do in your bedroom and who you do it with.

It is why McCain championed campaign finance reform laws until those laws became inconvenient to him.

It is why Huckabee says in one breath "we should share and debate our faith, but never seek to impose it" and then in another "we should amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards."

It's why Roger Stone (a Republican bigwig who heads an anti-Hillary 527 called Citizens United Not Timid") can tsk tsk the Elliot Spitzer scandal, despite having been forced to resign a consulting position with Bob Dole when it was revealed that he and his wife placed "swinger" ads on various websites and magazines.

It's why the conservative motto is "personal responsibility" but only when it refers to actual people, not corporations in need of government bailouts.

Great post!

 

[chris1gill]

Great post!

Agreed, great post & you even have FACTS in it

 

[Oreo Cookie]

I'm still trying to get my mind around they don't believe in religious freedom, but they do believe in endorsement freedom.

Religious freedom (Obama-Wright) has consequences, but endorsement freedom (McCain-Hagee-Parsley) is peachy keen.

My apologies, but you can't make this stuff up.

I feel the same way. It's good for them if they do it,but it's bad for liberals to do the same.

 

[Oreo Cookie]

I see a pattern of certain conservatives deliberately provoking liberals\Obama supporters - and we seem to flock to them like bees to honey.....

In the Hillary thread we tend to be "anti-Obama" in only that we want Hillary to be the nominee. Most of us (my jury is still out due to the negative campaigning) will vote for Obama if he gets the nod.

I'm going to try to stay away from those "baiting" threads - if we don't respond there - we'll take away their enjoyment away - and maybe those types of threads will be few and far between......

I stay away from the "baiting threads" too. It just seems that every day another new "let's bash Obama" thread is started by the same people. I guess I'm just tired of it, and it's only the end of March.

I understand the Hillary supporters, they are being passionate for their candidate. I do believe tha most HRC supporters will vote for Obama if he's the nominee, and visa-versa.

 

[Oreo Cookie]

Are you kidding? This is the cornerstone of the party.

It's why Rush Limbaugh can rail about lazy welfare cheats, although he spent years living off unemployment himself.

It's why Bill Clinton's Vietnam deferment was proof that he was an unpatriotic, draft-dodging coward but the deferments of Bush, Cheney, DeLay, Frist, Gingrich, Hastert, Kenneth Lay, Limbaugh (again), Bill O'Reilly, Quayle, Romney, Rove, Justice Souter, Kenneth Starr, and Justice Thomas - among others - are totally irrelevant to their worthiness as leaders and Americans.

It's why Newt Gingrich could champion the party of family values even while conducting multiple adulterous affairs and trying to work out a divorce settlement with his wife as she lay in the hospital receiving treatment for cancer.

It's why the Republicans can argue that government interference in the private sector is a bad thing when it refers to corporations but a good thing when it refers to what you do in your bedroom and who you do it with.

It is why McCain championed campaign finance reform laws until those laws became inconvenient to him.

It is why Huckabee says in one breath "we should share and debate our faith, but never seek to impose it" and then in another "we should amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards."

It's why Roger Stone (a Republican bigwig who heads an anti-Hillary 527 called Citizens United Not Timid") can tsk tsk the Elliot Spitzer scandal, despite having been forced to resign a consulting position with Bob Dole when it was revealed that he and his wife placed "swinger" ads on various websites and magazines.

It's why the conservative motto is "personal responsibility" but only when it refers to actual people, not corporations in need of government bailouts.

Great post.

 

[wvrevy]

I feel the same way. It's good for them if they do it,but it's bad for liberals to do the same.

I couldn't believe the willingness yesterday of some of them to admit - even praise - McCain for seeking the endorsement of someone like Hagee solely for political purposes.

Maybe that's what that party's problem is in terms of the quality of people they have in office...they expect them to act like scum, so that exactly what they (and, unfortunately, we) get!

 

[Oreo Cookie]

I couldn't believe the willingness yesterday of some of them to admit - even praise - McCain for seeking the endorsement of someone like Hagee solely for political purposes.

Maybe that's what that party's problem is in terms of the quality of people they have in office...they expect them to act like scum, so that exactly what they (and, unfortunately, we) get!

It's that "win at all cost" mentality. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, legal or not. For some, if a conservative does it, they will defend it to the moon, and a few are such good "spin doctors" that McCain should hire them for his campaign.

 

[eclectics]

I couldn't believe the willingness yesterday of some of them to admit - even praise - McCain for seeking the endorsement of someone like Hagee solely for political purposes. Maybe that's what that party's problem is in terms of the quality of people they have in office...they expect them to act like scum, so that exactly what they (and, unfortunately, we) get!

Yeah, that was interesting, considering all the "pandering" accusations Obama and Hillary have recieved. Once again, questionable actions seem to be given a pass, or even praised, when one of their own does it.

 

[marybet]

My favorite is "but he stayed at that church for 20 years". They never look at the logic that Wright did not preach that stuff every week. I think the sound bites are only from 3 sermons. And of course they never heard anything but goodness and light from their pastor.


It's amazing how many Christians have never heard of forgiveness.

 

[bimshire]

Hope this hasn't been posted before:

"Hillary Clinton has been regaling supporters on the campaign trail with hair-raising tales of a trip she made to Bosnia in March 1996. In her retelling, she was sent to places that her husband, President Bill Clinton, could not go because they were "too dangerous." When her account was challenged by one of her traveling companions, the comedian Sinbad, she upped the ante and injected even more drama into the story. In a speech earlier this week, she talked about "landing under sniper fire" and running for safety with "our heads down."

There are numerous problems with Clinton's version of events.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...8/03/21/AR2008032102989.html?nav=rss_politics

"This will be the punch-line of every statement made about her campaign from here on out. "Sniper fire" will be what the invention of the internet was to Al Gore, except, in this case, Clinton actually said the words which will be used to demonstrate her falsity."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/22/161812/428/776/482309

Hillary, the great storyteller with a long Pinocchio
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Opppps, just saw the separate thread.

 

[chris1gill]

It's amazing how many Christians have never heard of forgiveness.

That's exactly what surprises me, but I grew up in an Evangelical household that was evangelical 2 days of the week, the other 5 were just h*ll

 

[LuvDuke]

Are you kidding? This is the cornerstone of the party.

It's why Rush Limbaugh can rail about lazy welfare cheats, although he spent years living off unemployment himself.

It's why Bill Clinton's Vietnam deferment was proof that he was an unpatriotic, draft-dodging coward but the deferments of Bush, Cheney, DeLay, Frist, Gingrich, Hastert, Kenneth Lay, Limbaugh (again), Bill O'Reilly, Quayle, Romney, Rove, Justice Souter, Kenneth Starr, and Justice Thomas - among others - are totally irrelevant to their worthiness as leaders and Americans.

It's why Newt Gingrich could champion the party of family values even while conducting multiple adulterous affairs and trying to work out a divorce settlement with his wife as she lay in the hospital receiving treatment for cancer.

It's why the Republicans can argue that government interference in the private sector is a bad thing when it refers to corporations but a good thing when it refers to what you do in your bedroom and who you do it with.

It is why McCain championed campaign finance reform laws until those laws became inconvenient to him.

It is why Huckabee says in one breath "we should share and debate our faith, but never seek to impose it" and then in another "we should amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards."

It's why Roger Stone (a Republican bigwig who heads an anti-Hillary 527 called Citizens United Not Timid") can tsk tsk the Elliot Spitzer scandal, despite having been forced to resign a consulting position with Bob Dole when it was revealed that he and his wife placed "swinger" ads on various websites and magazines.

It's why the conservative motto is "personal responsibility" but only when it refers to actual people, not corporations in need of government bailouts.

Lest we forget, "personal responsiblity" only refers to certain people: the single mother, the working poor, etc.

"Personal responsibility" does not apply to Lewis Libby, George Bush, Dick Cheney or the rest of the Republican icons. No sirree, no "personal responsibility" required from them.

 

[LuvDuke]

I couldn't believe the willingness yesterday of some of them to admit - even praise - McCain for seeking the endorsement of someone like Hagee solely for political purposes.

They believe in endorsement freedom but have no problem making plans to violate someone else's religious freedom by infiltrating their church.

Maybe that's what that party's problem is in terms of the quality of people they have in office...they expect them to act like scum, so that exactly what they (and, unfortunately, we) get!

Exactly! They tell you "government can't do anything" and then they prove just how incompetent they really are.

I've never understood why people vote to put in office candidates who don't believe in government or believe government is the problem.

I wouldn't a bottle of wine from a winery that doesn't believe in wine. Nor would I hire a contractor to put a tile roof on my house when he advertises he believes tile roofs are the problem.

It boggles my mind how an entire group of people not only believe this BS but perpetuate it year after year completely ignoring that their philosophy has failed.

 

[LuvDuke]

When I check on the goings on of our friends on the other side of the aisle, I keep getting a banner saying "Ann Coulter - Free".

The price seems a little steep to me.

 

[lilyv]

When I check on the goings on of our friends on the other side of the aisle, I keep getting a banner saying "Ann Coulter - Free".

The price seems a little steep to me.

Does that mean Spitzer overpaid?

 

[LuvDuke]

Does that mean Spitzer overpaid?

I thought of Spitzer too.

Think of it this way: He could've answered the question "Ann Coulter and the adam's apple - Is she or isn't she"?

That had to be worth something.

 

[LuvDuke]

McCain's lead over Obama down 33%.

On 3-20-08, 47% favored McCain and Obama 44%

However, in a stunning development, on 3-21-2008 the numbers are 46% favor McCain and 44% still favor Obama.

Do the math: John McCain's lead over Obama is down 33% in just one day.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm




*note dripping sarcasm

 

[Chicago526]

Sigh....yet another thread about the deadbeats that need food stamps and other government services. Don't conservatives ever get tired of worrying about how other people live their lives? You'd think the poor were reaching in and taking money straight out of their pockets by the way some of them post!