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[goofieslonglostsis]

I've mentioned this story before....but back when I had a different ventilator that had a wider base ( LP10) someone STOOD their child on it as it was attached to the back of my chair at the entrance to DAK. We were waiting for the park to open and I got the comment that their child just wanted to see the characters. You can better believe I had some choice, but kind, words to describe that my life support was more important than their little Mouseketeer seeing Safari Mickey!---Kathy

Some parents!


Not that I would advice anyone to go down such a road, but in a case so extreme as this I wonder how the legal system would view and handle it. This basically can come down to them using their offspring as a "tool" to strangle another individual. When putting your hands across ones neck it's strangulation, what would it be when putting a child! on a ventilator of those dependant on them?

And OK, let's just put it down to having a twisted thinking day and being too involved at the moment with "medical legality" but seeing as we're discussing idiotic things happening while at WDW: how would WDW security have acted/ will act upon such situations? Kinda sad I'm even wondering.

 

[dclfun]

Some parents!


Not that I would advice anyone to go down such a road, but in a case so extreme as this I wonder how the legal system would view and handle it. This basically can come down to them using their offspring as a "tool" to strangle another individual. When putting your hands across ones neck it's strangulation, what would it be when putting a child! on a ventilator of those dependant on them?

And OK, let's just put it down to having a twisted thinking day and being too involved at the moment with "medical legality" but seeing as we're discussing idiotic things happening while at WDW: how would WDW security have acted/ will act upon such situations? Kinda sad I'm even wondering.

Fortunately he didn't stand there long and as soon as I said something, Dad removed his son, but he huffed about it!---Kathy

 

[tuffyco]

These stories amaze me! I have always taught my children that they do not use the handicap stalls. We were waiting in a line of people one time at the theatre and the stall that opened up when we got to the front of the line was the handicap stall (a woman and child came out), my daughter just continued waiting, knowing she should not use the stall (even though she had to go badly). The lady behind us tapped us and pointed to the stall. I said that we are not handicap and will not use the stall. She looked perturbed and walked by and used it. I don't understand why people can't wait a couple more minutes for another stall to open up.

 

[pampam]

I may have mentioned this before in another post, but this thread reminded me of it.

They were building a new ramp at the post office. After several days it was finally finished. We noticed it as we were walking by, so I said to DD, hey lets try out this new ramp. When we got to the top, there was a post right in the middle which prevented the Wc from going any further. The Post master came out, and he was obviously quite proud of the new ramp. He asked me what I thought of it. I told him it was a lovely ramp, but there was a post at the top. That's when he informed me that the ramp was not for wheelchairs. It was for handicap people.


For the first time in my life I was speechless. I couldn't give him a reply.

It has since been fixed, but there is a depression in the concrete where the post had been. I think if this everytime I see the depression.

 

[peemagg]

I may have mentioned this before in another post, but this thread reminded me of it.

They were building a new ramp at the post office. After several days it was finally finished. We noticed it as we were walking by, so I said to DD, hey lets try out this new ramp. When we got to the top, there was a post right in the middle which prevented the Wc from going any further. The Post master came out, and he was obviously quite proud of the new ramp. He asked me what I thought of it. I told him it was a lovely ramp, but there was a post at the top. That's when he informed me that the ramp was not for wheelchairs. It was for handicap people.


For the first time in my life I was speechless. I couldn't give him a reply.

It has since been fixed, but there is a depression in the concrete where the post had been. I think if this everytime I see the depression.

The only thing that comes to mind on this one is to quote Bill Engval. "Here's you sign!"

 

[Mama Who]

These stories amaze me! I have always taught my children that they do not use the handicap stalls. We were waiting in a line of people one time at the theatre and the stall that opened up when we got to the front of the line was the handicap stall (a woman and child came out), my daughter just continued waiting, knowing she should not use the stall (even though she had to go badly). The lady behind us tapped us and pointed to the stall. I said that we are not handicap and will not use the stall. She looked perturbed and walked by and used it. I don't understand why people can't wait a couple more minutes for another stall to open up.

Handicapped stalls are not like parking spaces. They are available to anyone if there is nobody who *must* have them waiting. I won't use them if there's someone who needs the access waiting but if there isn't, it's fair game.

 

[scroot]

Wonder if she has ever tried parking in the bigger parking stall? I alwasy get a kick out of seeing people ticketed for no permit.

 

[AJKMOM]

Handicapped stalls are not like parking spaces. They are available to anyone if there is nobody who *must* have them waiting. I won't use them if there's someone who needs the access waiting but if there isn't, it's fair game.

I agree. I also feel this way about the wheelchair accessible check-out at the grocery store. It's there for chairs, but not exclusively for them.

 

[crashbb]

Handicapped stalls are not like parking spaces. They are available to anyone if there is nobody who *must* have them waiting. I won't use them if there's someone who needs the access waiting but if there isn't, it's fair game.

Absolutely. I would have been like the woman behind the PP in line.

To add to not using it if someone who needs access is waiting, I also don't use it if there is another stall available. However, in the situation described by the PP, I would have used the accessible stall.

 

[Mama Who]

Absolutely. I would have been like the woman behind the PP in line.

To add to not using it if someone who needs access is waiting, I also don't use it if there is another stall available. However, in the situation described by the PP, I would have used the accessible stall.

Good point. I don't use it if there are other stalls open or if I'm going to be awhile.

 

[Buckimion]

I've related elsewhere about a time when another disabled person challenged my "right" to a HC stall (as I was leaving and they arrived sometime after I entered) while both of us were on ECVs. but perhaps the winner has to be the guy at Disneyland that RACED around me as I was attempting to enter a HC stall and slammed the door on me. When he got done he only offered that if I had an accident it would just be written off as part of my disability.

 

[Mama Who]

I've related elsewhere about a time when another disabled person challenged my "right" to a HC stall (as I was leaving and they arrived sometime after I entered) while both of us were on ECVs. but perhaps the winner has to be the guy at Disneyland that RACED around me as I was attempting to enter a HC stall and slammed the door on me. When he got done he only offered that if I had an accident it would just be written off as part of my disability.

Because the disabled have no dignity anyway? :sigh:

 

[Haley Whippet]

Handicapped stalls are not like parking spaces. They are available to anyone if there is nobody who *must* have them waiting. I won't use them if there's someone who needs the access waiting but if there isn't, it's fair game.

How would you know if someone was on the way into the restroom that needs that stall if you are taking it even if you don't need it?
I was at LAX not too long ago, on my ECV needing a restroom, I went in & the handicapped stall was in use, after waiting awhile a young woman in a tight dress & high heels came out, I said, "thanks for using the handicapped stall" she glared at me & said, "I needed more space for my carry-on, get over it"
Just sayin, you never know who will get there after you..

 

[Haley Whippet]

My mom uses an ECV at WDW. Something that's happened to us more than once is after she is loaded onto the bus, the driver always tells her that she needs to transfer to a seat if she can. She does, then after everyone else is loaded, someone always says, here's a seat we'll sit here and plops down on her ECV. They then get really huffy when we tell them they need to get off of it. We tell them the driver told my mom she can't sit on it, if she can transfer, so neither can they. They don't seem to get it.

I have learned to flip the seat back down on my ECV to help deter those "seat sitters" It works pretty good

 

[crashbb]

How would you know if someone was on the way into the restroom that needs that stall if you are taking it even if you don't need it?
I was at LAX not too long ago, on my ECV needing a restroom, I went in & the handicapped stall was in use, after waiting awhile a young woman in a tight dress & high heels came out, I said, "thanks for using the handicapped stall" she glared at me & said, "I needed more space for my carry-on, get over it"
Just sayin, you never know who will get there after you..

I'm in and out in less than a minute. If no one is in the washroom at the time I go into the stall, they'd have been waiting (at most) 30 seconds for me to come out.

Had you made a comment like that to me, I wouldn't have said anything (but I also would not have apologized, which I likely was about to do). If there is a line, I'm not avoiding 1/4 of the stalls (or whatever the ratio is) on the off chance that someone will have to wait 30 seconds Like Mama Who said if, for some reason, I know that I will be taking a while, I won't use the stall.

 

[WheeledTraveler]

I'm going to ignore the bathroom stall discussion for right now, but here's a non-WDW "can you beat this" moment:

I was at Old Sturbridge Village, a recreation 1830s village museum near me. I'm a member and have friends who work there, so I'm there often. I generally sit outside and cross-stitch there. A couple weeks ago I was sitting in my wheelchair cross-stitching when a woman came and sat down on the bench near me. She started talking about how she needed oxygen and a wheelchair and how she was on dialysis. I was making non-committal answers, that I thought were at least slightly sympathetic, because I was concentrating on my cross-stitch. Another wheelchair user passed us and the woman on the bench said "I need me one of those". Again, a non-committal reply from the other person.

Well, I guess our lack of enthusiasm meant that we disbelieved her. After the other wheelchair user passed by, she continued to tell me about her dialysis. She started pointing out generally where her access points were. Then (and here's the kicker) she pulled down the top of her shirt to show me her top access point!

I'm quite used to people feeling that they have the right to ask about my private medical condition, but I'd never had someone provide too much information about themselves like that before!

 

[cquick]

Home from another magical week at Disney. One day while in EP I needed to answer nature's call, so I rode my ECV into the nearest ladies room. The stall was a bit tight, so I parked my ECV outside of it and walked into the stall with my cane (ever so carefully due to the sometimes wet floors!).

Anyway, when I was out of the stall and getting back onto my ECV, a woman with 2 little girls approached me and chastised me for using "the big stall." She said "do you know how hard it is to manage 2 children in a regiular sized stall? I needed the big one but you were tying it up." Honest to gosh. She actually said it! I said "If by big stall you mean the handicapped stall, yes, I am handicapped and I used the handicapped stall. To answer your original quesiton, yes, I know how challengining it is to raise children and herd them in a bathroom." And then I simply drove out of the bathroom.


Can't wait-57 days till my next trip!!

That is an truly amazing story! I have always been worried that someone might give me a hard time because I often need to wheel my adult son into the handicapped stall in the ladies room. So far, I haven't had any remarks.........sorry you had to deal with that!

 

[cquick]

We got the "look" the other day. We went into a very small restroom. 3 stalls total, one handicapped. All were full. The HC stall opened so I went in, dd waiting outside to use the stall next. When I came out there was a wheelchair pushed right up to the door. The woman pushing the chair gave me the face and said "we are next" and pushed dd out of the way. I told dd to wait for another stall.
I do usually try to avoid using the HC stall, but there was a reason to take the first available.

My son is disabled,so we use the HC toilet stall all the time. I really have no problem with non-disabled people using the stall if there is no handicapped person waiting.

Especially if there's a line; you know the women's rest rooms always have a line! The bathroom builders haven't figured out that women can't just whip it out and be done with it. Takes a lot more time for us......it's the way we're made!

 

[livndisney]

How would you know if someone was on the way into the restroom that needs that stall if you are taking it even if you don't need it?
I was at LAX not too long ago, on my ECV needing a restroom, I went in & the handicapped stall was in use, after waiting awhile a young woman in a tight dress & high heels came out, I said, "thanks for using the handicapped stall" she glared at me & said, "I needed more space for my carry-on, get over it"
Just sayin, you never know who will get there after you..

Personally, I would not have made a comment to the person in the stall. Most likely I would have commented back if someone had said something about us using the stall. I understand some people like to use the HC stall, just because it is bigger-but then there are others that use it due to other medical needs.

 

[minkydog]

I've not had a bad experience at WDW, but I was on the receiving end of some stupid commentary at Yellowstone National Park. We had taken our two kids, ages 12 & 14 to see the thermal features. Our then-12yo, Christian, is profoundly mentally handicapped. He can walk but he has NO sense of danger, so we had him strapped into his wheelchair for safety. While pushing him along the boardwalk near a boiling geyser, I heard the woman behind me say,"Why would you bring a kid like THAT to a place like this?" I felt my spine stiffen, but I didn't say anything. I knew if I turned around i would say something nasty. If my DH had heard this woman, it would have been ON right there in the bubbling mud.