The ignorance continues...

[dianeschlicht]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks
Perhaps where you live, but it is not that way in every state. In many states, insurance companies can and do refuse to issue homeowner's policies for certain breeds of dogs. In other states, insurance companies can charge higher premiums for dogs on the "bad dog" list. We own a home that we rent out, and our company has a "bad dog" list that results in increased premiums, so we don't rent to families that own one of those breeds of dog.

In this state, those denied rental could sue you for equal housing violations.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by dianeschlicht
In this state, those denied rental could sue you for equal housing violations.

In Minnesota people can't refuse to rent to families that own dogs? That's odd.

 

[DawnCt1]

Originally posted by dianeschlicht
In this state, those denied rental could sue you for equal housing violations.

That would not be true in any state. No one has to rent to a family with dogs or a specific breed of dog. Lots of places do not allow pets. Again, dogs do not have equal housing rights.

 

[dianeschlicht]

IF you rent at all to folks who own dogs, you could be called on it for only renting to folks who own certain breeds.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by DawnCt1
That would not be true in any state. No one has to rent to a family with dogs or a specific breed of dog. Lots of places do not allow pets. Again, dogs do not have equal housing rights.

I don't know about any state, but I know that in our state, we can limit rentals based on the size or breed of the dog.

 

[DawnCt1]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks
I don't know about any state, but I know that in our state, we can limit rentals based on the size or breed of the dog.

That would be true of Ct as well. I would guess that most states would have similar laws. Dogs are considered property, like waterbeds. Homeowners do not have to rent to owners of water beds in Ct.

 

[DawnCt1]

Just curous, do most of the pit bulls in the Boston area live in Dorchester or Wellsley?

 

[EsmeraldaX]

Originally posted by DawnCt1
Just curous, do most of the pit bulls in the Boston area live in Dorchester or Wellsley?

I honestly don't know. I tend to think they are spread out over the various cities. My neices live in Weymouth. The other families I mentioned before live in Methuen.

 

[PatriciaH]

Originally posted by DawnCt1
Personally, I can't see the purpose of perpetuating a breed that may have an inherent flaw. I don't think anyone will cry if pit bulls become "extinct". Frankly, I don't think that what happens within the city limits of Boston is going to impact the breed significantly. The dogs are bred for aggressiveness and putting up a sign to warn others seems like the least these owners can do.

I for one will be crying. I love American Stafforshire Terriers. DH and I own a pet-sitting business and I love all animals. I grew up with many different breeds of dogs and work with many different breeds. You can never know how any breed/dog will react to a situation/person. Dogs are like people they are all individuals.

Owners need to be responsible and train their animals properly! Certain breeds really need training-pit bulls because of their powerfull jaws, Chows and Akitas because they were bread to protect, terriers because they are so head strong, Greyhounds because they are so fast, Huskeys because they will run away if distracted and on and on. An animal is a huge responsibility but most people do not take the time to properly train them. A lot of people spend no time with their CHILDREN do you think they will train their dog? We never let dogs off leash unless they are in their own fenced yard or alone in a fenced park area.

 

[TerriP]

Originally posted by DawnCt1
With regard to the "possibility" of poodles being banned for their appearance, it would never happen. Poodles would organize and form their own PAC (Poodles the superior breed) and outlaw humans. They will also lobby to be allowed to ride only in the front seat of the car and reruns of the Westminster Dog Show aired weekly. So I would be careful about the irreverent comments directed to poodles.

LMAO...I'll keep that in mind.

 

[sha_lyn]

I would rather bet on the exception of the poodle's behavior than have to count on the exception of the staffordshire terrier's behavior

you would lose that bet. Poodles, cockerspaniels and other "friendly" breeds account for more reported bites than pits do. Pits however being stronger are able to inflict more serious harm

I don't think anyone will cry if pit bulls become "extinct".

Many owners and pet lovers would be crying


For the record I do not own one, but most likely will in the furture.
Oh and the only dog that has ever attacked me was a german shepard when I was about 14. Luckily I was on my bike and not walking. I was able to to get away from it. I've been around pits, ritties and dobbies all my life and when treated correctly they can be very loving pets.

 

[CookieGVB]

How many REGISTERED breeders are there in Boston? I imagine they wouldn't have to spay/neuter their dogs.

Also, if you own a show dog, doesn't it have to remain "whole"? I would imagine those would be the exceptions to the rule.

And if you're not a breeder and don't show your dog, any RESPONSIBLE owner would have their pet spayed/neutered by default, anyway.

Not everyone is a responsible pet owner. Putting a muzzle on a dog to protect it from attacking another dog or person is like enforcing the speed limit on the highway. There are plenty of drivers who are experienced enough to handle driving 80, but you'd better believe you'll be fined if you're caught driving that speed, no matter how well you do it.

 

[ScarlettO]

Originally posted by sha_lyn


For the record I do not own one, but most likely will in the furture.
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WHY???? Why in the world would you plan to get a dog that is proven time and time again to have a *possible*mean streak?That seems to be highly mis-guided behavior.

But then in certain backwoods locales getting the Big Bad doog with the spiked collar outside the trailer is "De rigeur"

 

[sha_lyn]

But then in certain backwoods locales getting the Big Bad doog with the spiked collar outside the trailer is "De rigeur"

Oh please. Do you have anything relevent to say or do you just like to throw around insults

 

[DawnCt1]

Originally posted by sha_lyn
you would lose that bet. Poodles, cockerspaniels and other "friendly" breeds account for more reported bites than pits do. Pits however being stronger are able to inflict more serious harm



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I believe the seriousness of the bite was addressed in earlier posts. Again, I would rather take my chances with a poodle and its bite, than be take my chances on the pit bull. With regard to german shepards; the bite my DH saw most often in the ER (not all bites end up in the ER) were facial bites on children from german shepards.

 

[ScarlettO]

When my son was a toddler, I was riding him on the back of my bike ,,,,two WHITE German Shepards chased us down and the bike turned over-scariest thing I ever went thru.

 

[Trish Bessette]

"Known of" and "Knowing" are two different things. Did you personally know ANY American Stafforshire terriers, Bull Terriers, Stafforshire Terriers, or Boston Terriers? Know OF them and knowing them personally is not the same.

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The one incident where he had to put the dog asleep because it was just too mean I KNEW very well. Personally.

All I am saying is that statistics I'm sure show more retriever bites because they are the #1 breed. I don't "know of" or "know personally" anyone who put to sleep a golden retriever for biting someone or because of their behavior can't be controlled

 

[goofy4tink]

I really don't want to be adding fuel to the fire here but....more golden retreivers=more bites. And that's the operative word...bites. A pitbull doesn't just bite, he mauls. Just doesn't let go. Now, that is a breed tendancy. At one time, that was a desired trait. Not so desired anymore, unless you're a drug dealer. But, I digress.

Should any dog be banned? No, in no way. But, should they be neutered/spayed? Yes. If you aren't breeding, and I don't mean backyard breeders, you get them neutered. If you aren't showing your dogs, then most likely you aren't breeding to improve/better the breed. Backyard breeders, as a rule, do not show. they just want their children so see the miracle of birth and make a few dollars. Enough said on that issue.

Muzzles? Hate 'em. I used a Gentle Leader and a Halti on my golden and everyone thought it was a muzzle. Why would I muzzle a golden retriever they all asked.

I really don't know what the answer is. Do any of you, especially you EsmereldaX, have any solutions? I would hate for any breed to die out. That is not in the best interest of dogs, as a whole. But what do we do in the meantime? If there are dogs out there, with a propensity for violence, how do we stop it? some people buy these poor animals because of their background of violence. When the breed gets past the 'rep' it has and is known to be a nice family type dog, then none of this will matter. Even dobies and rotties are getting past their bad reps!!!

 

[Toby'sFriend]

German Shepards are also on the list that many insurance companies will refuse to write policies for now.

 

[spagheddie]

Originally posted by sha_lyn
you would lose that bet. Poodles, cockerspaniels and other "friendly" breeds account for more reported bites than pits do. Pits however being stronger are able to inflict more serious harm

I'm sorry, I'd rather take my chances with a wild pack of dachsunds than one pit bull.