The Grumpus and his Grumpy Dining Review - Week of May 1, 2006

The Grumpus

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This dining review is conjuctinon with an overly verbose trip report in another section. For those of you who just want to know where I ate, and how it was, I'm saving you a lot of time that you would demand back otherwise. We did have the DP

First, some notes about the dining plan:
1) MAKE RESERVATIONS. At nearly every TS meal, I heard people being turned away. You have a certain number of TS and CS meals. They aren't interchangeable, and you will be stuck paying out of pocket if you aren't careful. I was talking with one of the women at the Concierge desk at POP about this, and she was telling me nightmares about families who left with 12-15 meals left on their plan.
2) DON'T WEAR A BELT. The dining plan is more food than anyone needs. It's almost too much. Almost
3) THINK ABOUT WHEN TO EAT. Try to have an earlier lunch and later dinner to space about the amount food you are entitled to. If you can, a quick breakfast bar or the like can hold you until lunch, at which time you can fill up to tide you over to dinner, which should get you more than through the night. Plus you still have that snack for hunger pains
4) BUY CHEAP SNACKS. The $$$ of snacks varies greatly from item to item. Your best bet is to buy the cheap ones and DP the expensive ones. A great example was with the pretzels they sell. The pretzels are 3.50 each, but for a $1.00 you can get cheese with it. The will charge you 2 credits for both, or 1 credit plus $1.00. Using a credit makes no sense in this case. You can do better.
5) GET YOUR MONEY'S WORTH. This is really a compilation of all of the above. We made out like bandits on the plan because of a few simple steps.

As a note, we were in Disney last June as well, without the Dining Plan.


THE MEALS

Table Service:

1) Whispering Canyon - Just as we remembered it. If you're hungry and want as much food as "you care to enjoy", it's a good place. We got our share of pork this and pork that. If you're interested in the food without the showboating, ask to sit in the library in the back. We like it back there. You get a nice view of the hotel lobby without all of the noise. The waitress was very pleasant, although service was a little slower than I remember. The chocolate cake was quite good, although I couldn't eat it all.

2) Le Cellier - We had never been there before, but I've heard so many good things about it on the boards. One of my favorites lines from the trip was "Welcome to Le Cellier, my name is XXXX, I'll be your Canadian". I had a salad, the strip steak, and the raspberry sorbet. The Grumpette had the PEI mussels, the grilled shrimp, and the creme brule. I found everything to be very good, and like most others, enjoyed the bread selection. Grumpette said the creme brule is the best she has had. I found the sorbet to have some ice crystals in it, but otherwise was quite good. Also, the pecan shallot dressing on the salad was very tasty. The steak was cooked just right for me.

3) Marrakesh - Not my first choice, but Grumpette likes it. I did enjoy the Casa beer however. The chicken kebab seemed to lack flavor, especially for a cuisine that prides iteself on spices. Also, it came in a base of tomato, which, unfortunately, I do not like. The beef brewat rolls were quite good, I would have gotten a second order of those. The ice cream on the bastilla was completely melted when I got it, so it was more of a soup than a dessert. A week away reminds me that I don't recall what the Grumpette got, but she enjoyed it. This food did not hit my palette, but did hers.

4) Ohanas - Last year, Grumpette wanted to cancel all of our other reservations and make them here instead. She was disappointed when she heard that the menu had changed, but we went in with an open mind. The Kona beer was ok, nothing to write home about. The dipping sauces for the wontons were good, and the wings were good but very hard to eat. The shrimp was just ok, nothing like before. We had the server come around with the meat, and he suggested we take whatever we want, because he likely wouldn't come around for seconds (a departure from last year, when the meat continuously cycled around). We ate everything except the sausage, which didn't sound enticing. I particularly enjoyed the turkey. After finishing the meat, the potatoes finally came, which were very good and very buttery. The dessert was just ok, we're not big bread pudding fans, and the loss of the creme brule was felt by the Grumpette. We finally asked for a warm face cloth when we noticed everyone else had received one during their meal to help keep them clean. Service was very slow and the food was ok, but nothing like before. The server reminded us that Ohana means family, and that we are all cousins, but we left feeling more like step-cousins, twice removed...

5) Rose and Crown - We got the late seating at Rose and Crown to be able to get a good view of Illuminations. Appetizers were the cheese platter for her and the leek and barley soup for me. Both were quite good. For dinnner, she had the fish & chips, I had the guiness stew. Again, both were quite tasty. She did point out that I had two soups as meals, to which I likely called her a name. We again got desserts to go, which were prepared while we watch Illuminations from the patio. The view was spectacular, and I recommend it to everyone. The meal and show made this my second favorite, only behind Le Cellier.

6) Hollywood & Wine - We have never eaten a TS meal at MGM. We will never again eat a TS at MGM. This buffet was not only the worst meal at Disney, it is one of the worst I have ever eaten. The hot food was cold, the cold food was hot, the whole place was filthy, and service was quite poor. I'll spare details for those who like the place. We chose to eat here so we could just pop over to the nighttime show. Unfortunately, a few minutes after leaving the resturaunt, we were pushing people out of the way to get the the bathrooms. This was not a good way to end the night. After several painful hours, we felt a little better and got some stuff from the POP food court.


Counter Service: To be continued...
 
:thanks: for the review. Haven't eaten at H&V, guess I can cross that off my list of maybe sometime. Sept. with be our 3rd time on the DDP and we've used the suggestion you list as well as one other. My mom and I share meals TS-since we don't normally eat appetizer, entree, and desserts at home, and frequently share our meals here, we do the same on the plan. Works great-and we get to try more restaurants.

Happy Dining :cool1:
 
Could you please elaborate a little more about the snack issue.

So hot pretzls are okay for a snack on the DP as long as you pay extra for cheese? I do not know the costs of typical snacks at WDW. What are the extra costly snacks?

Where do they sell the pretzls? Are they extra good?

We are going in Sept and have the free dining.
 

Sorry, I have a tendency to overelaborate simple points and gloss over others.

The pretzel was an example, but here's the layout:
Option A (No dining plan): Pay 3.50 for pretzel, 1.00 for cheese = $4.50 total
Option B (1 snack used): Pay 1 snack for pretzel, 1.00 for cheese = 1 snack + $1.00 out of your pocket
Option C (2 snacks used): Pay 1 snack for pretzel, 1 snack for cheese = 2 snacks

Although Option C doesn't cost you any money on top of the original Dining Plan costs, you have spent 1 snack on a dollar item, when that snack is really good for items of a much greater value. Most people will want something else during the day. If you were to come across a Mickey ice cream later on, a 3.50 item, you would need to use another snack, or pay out of pocket.

Using snacks frivolously will burn them out ahead fast. Disney would prefer you buy Pop Rocks or a Snickers bar with your snack option (hence the reason they keep those near the cash registers, clearly marked), rather than a $4.00 bag of snack mix. Since you paid a fixed value for a TS, CS, and snack per day, the lower the value of your items, the more money they are making on the plan.
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Here was a great example from our trip: 2 adults --> 2 snacks, 2 CS, 2 TS = $36 x 2 = paid $72 for the day on the dining plan

Lunch: Tangerine Cafe in EPCOT (actual cost 35.00)
Dinner: Rose & Crown (actual cost 65.00)
Snack: 2 Ice creams (actual cost 8.00)

Total Cost of food: $108
Actual Paid DDP: $72
Disney loss: $36.00
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The less the snacks cost, the less lost profit for Disney. As the snack cost decreases, the total cost of food for the day goes down. This actually is true at all meals.

Don't know if that helped or was just more confusing. My only real point is know that value of the items you can get for your snack. If you think you will use up all of you items easily (and you likely will), pay for the cheaper items out of pocket (my general rule was $2.00 or less).

-TGr
 
Great review and tips, Grumpus - thank you! :thumbsup2

We won't be on the DDP this time around, but probably will be on the next trip after that (if that makes sense!) :teeth:

Glad you liked Rose & Crown - we're trying it for the first time in October!
 
Thanks for your review!
I'm disappointed to hear your review about ohana ("...he suggested we take whatever we want, because he likely wouldn't come around for seconds .. "). I'm open minded about the menu change and made another ADR for this time around but I was hoping they would still do the AYCE... :(
 
Thanks! Love your reviews and the tips. I totally agree with them.
My DH still talks about Le Cellier's creme brulee- guess I should try it next time...
 
Thanks for that info, very helpful! Sorry to hear about your bad experience with Hollywood & Vine. We had them booked on the Fantasmic package with free dining in September but i've heard so many bad things (plus a friend who works at a cookery college said buffets should really be a no go!) that we switched to The Brown Derby.

I'm a huge Creme Brulee fan, is the one at Le Cellier very 'mapley' flavoured or is it just a hint of maple?

Thanks :thumbsup2
 
We also had a horrific time at H & V fantasmic dinner in April this year. We didn't get seated for our meal until over an HOUR after our ADR! It was terrible. We essentially had 15 minutes to eat before needing to leave for the oscar entrance for fantasmic. The food was abysmal (sp?) and quite simply, budget or not, I told my girls we are NEVER going back. :furious:
 
Thank you for your reviews, I really enjoyed your humor and writing style!! (maybe because your opinions mirror mine!! :rotfl2: )

Service was very slow and the food was ok, but nothing like before. The server reminded us that Ohana means family, and that we are all cousins, but we left feeling more like step-cousins, twice removed...

and I felt the same sense of loss at Ohana's... (esp the shrimp!!)

for me H&V I ate there, and didnt mind it so much, but we kept the early seating time... but I'm sure your assessment was right on!!
 
Thank you for the reviews. I completely agree with H&V. We had an awful meal & waited 45 minutes past our ADR in the hot sun!
 
I am with you on the Le Cellier! Will remember Rose and Corwn to be considered for our next trip.

On the pretzels, DH went really Grumpy when we were in MK and they toild him the pretzels are NOT a snack on the DDP .
 
Thanks for your reviews. I liked the comment about how you felt like step-cousins, twice removed. :rotfl2:
 
Thanks for the reviews! Ouch on H&V; we've never dined there but did have excellent times at both 50s PT and Brown Derby so I hope you don't swear off all MGM table services places! Heck, even SciFi isn't bad!

Looking forward to counter reviews and thanks for the tips...
 
Thanks for the reviews Grumpus. I really enjoyed them! Please don't swear off all restaurants in MGM. We have had wonderful meals at the Brown Derby and Mama Melrose. Give them a try :sunny:
Deb
 
:teeth: Thanks for the review! Methinks the boy and I will definitely be doing Rose & Crown for Illuminations, especially in light of your favorable review.

Oh, and I love your avatar. Beeker rocks! :thumbsup2

Am cruising over to the trip reports board now to view your TR... :)
 
Enjoyed reading your reviews ~ Thanx for sharing.
 








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