The Genie Usage, Tips and Strategy ONLY Thread

[fly girl]

I know this has probably been asked before but I am too lazy to go through 20 pages.

Of course HS is the biggest strategy for G+ and ILL. We are staying onsite. We can book both G+ and ILL at 7am. Question is, can we utilize multiple phones with the same account to get both ROTR and SDD at 7am? We are park hopping after 2pm so I would like to get a jump and have those rides before we hop.

 

[snikki]

No, their 7am reservation was for a 10:45 SDD. But they didn't ride it until AFTER 11am, which allowed them to make a 2nd LL reservation AT 11am. Tapped into SDD at 11:15am and immediately g0t another LL, at which point their stack was 2 (Splash at 2pm, BTMMR at 2:20). Had they ridden SDD FIRST, they would have lost the chance to stack.

Ahh ok. Got it. That’s a good way to work around the system.

 

[fly girl]

Since when has Space Mountain had a single rider line? I've ridden it many times over the years and only saw two lines: standby and what was then called the fastpass line.

SM has single rider at DL, not WDW.

Unless something has changed, WDW single rider lanes available at: TT, RNR, MFSR, and EE

 

[snikki]

@snikki I think what might be being said here is that your plans/return times can overlap. I held a RotR ILL for 7:10-8:10.
I also had Genie+LL for RRC from 6:55-7:55 and ToT from 7:25-8:25.

You will get a message telling you in app you have overlapping plans.

The 2 hour window is while trying to book if they are not being used immediately.

Yes I know they can overlap but I was throughly confused on how they were allowed to book a LL at 11 am for 2 pm and then 15 minutes later book another without the 120 minute cool down window. Now I see it’s because they scanned into SDD (the LL they made at 7 am for 10:45 am) and it reset the 120 minutes to no minutes.

 

[aeasterling]

I recall you posting about this. It sounds very odd. When we go in FEB, we've got 3 rooms for us, and our 2 sons and their SOs. Would that imply I couldn't select their LLs for all of us? Since we're footing the bill for the whole trip, my CC is tied to their reservations (and it'll be paid off before we go). I have added G+ to the reservations, but now I'm concerned I might not be able to grab the LL for the whole group and be unable to add the ILL$ for all of us?

I think of if are all at an eligible resort, then you could do the 7am ILL$ for everyone. I had that problem because it didn't recognize my son as a resort guest

This problem was for LL. No idea why it started happening, but it didn't jump out at me that he wasn't defaulted on the LL, so it was very easy to blow through the screens and not realize that he wasn't selected.

 

[Tom_E_D]

Some of the ILL$ prices went up because it's the weekend. When they gave examples at the media event a few weeks ago, they indicated prices for some rides would be higher today (Saturday) than on Tuesday. I would expect most, if not all, of those increased prices to be reduced again (to Tuesday's prices) on Monday.

I just looked in MDE and all ILL$ rides showing prices are back to weekday prices, the same as last Tuesday: 7DMT $10, Space $7, Remy $9, Frozen $9, MMRR $8, AFoP $11 and EE $7. Rise is sold out and not listing a price.

 

[snikki]

How I feel this thread is like

 

[snikki]

I just looked in MDE and all ILL$ rides showing prices are back to weekday prices, the same as last Tuesday: 7DMT $10, Space $7, Remy $9, Frozen $9, MMRR $8, AFoP $11 and EE $7. Rise is sold out and not listing a price.

I think rise will always be $15 until they decide to raise the ceiling on ILL.

 

[PepperjackDragon]

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Perfect. I actually understood, whew. Thanks again for the time spent explaining your day! I watched YT video where he was *trying* to stack, but was unsuccessful because of the order of things he did it in. Obviously that wasn't helpful (other than to attest to the complexity), but I also think seeing it written out is more helpful.

So if things don't change between now and 12/4, we're going to try my 3 park approach.

his is where the third is so critical to making the park a simple walk through. With two you may have to just delay something like PP until the evening and wait to book it until your ready for dinner. For example, when I went through jungle cruise at like 3:30, PP was for 6:45. However I already had two LL booked so I had u til I rode my next LL to wait, no pressure to rush. Refreshed 5-6 times after I rode JC and a 5pm popped up. If you only have two you would have needed to book your second immediately to try to optimize and so would have to adjust accordingly. Could still work well, it would definitely mean more waiting. With three I am pretty sure it is a guaranteed walk up LL for every ride as long as you are using some basic planning skills and have a general understanding of park layout.

if pan had not showed up for 5pm I would have just continued booming u til pan showed up for a time I liked later that evening-which wouldhave been easy to get since forward times are predictable (backward times require cancellation, but forward times you just have to wait for people to book).

 

[LSUfan4444]

whatis a baseline tap house time?

It's a lounge in Hollywood Studios next to Sci Fi Drive in. It's traditionally where we plan to spend an hour or two when we have that downtime in our HS park day

 

[leeniewdw]

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his is where the third is so critical to making the park a simple walk through. With two you may have to just delay something like PP until the evening and wait to book it until your ready for dinner. For example, when I went through jungle cruise at like 3:30, PP was for 6:45. However I already had two LL booked so I had u til I rode my next LL to wait, no pressure to rush. Refreshed 5-6 times after I rode JC and a 5pm popped up. If you only have two you would have needed to book your second immediately to try to optimize and so would have to adjust accordingly. Could still work well, it would definitely mean more waiting. With three I am pretty sure it is a guaranteed walk up LL for every ride as long as you are using some basic planning skills and have a general understanding of park layout.

Last week I would have read this and be totally confused, but now (for now lol) it's making sense. I think it helped to read your original post a few times, then try to explain it (probably terribly) to my DH and then walk thru a hypothetical day. It was starting to make sense and when I came back and re-read your post this morning it was like "got it". I'm still going to bookmark this post though!

 

[acarsme123]

That's only for the paid LL

I am sorry if this has been asked/answered before, but can both paid LL be purchased right away at 7am? I mean, you don’t have a two hour window in between booking those like you do with the regular genie+ rides do you?

 

[badinnplaid]

Man, I feel like I usually get all this stuff but for whatever reason, I'm struggling with the stacking here! So I'll be down for a quick two-day trip in a couple of weeks, and one day we're doing Hollywood Studios and hopping to Magic Kingdom after 2. Plan on taking advantage of early entry hours and rope dropping Hollywood Studios, and will probably get an ILL for Rise of the Resistance. I'm very interested in stacking for our evening at Magic Kingdom, but I want to make sure I understand the implications.

So at 7, we book something at Hollywood Studios with a starting window from 10:30ish to 11. This is A1 reservation.

We tour HS as normal, taking advantage of EEH. Then at 11, we book a reservation for MK, at some point after 2. This is B1 reservation.

We then use our A1 reservation and get to book A2, which is something at MK after B1.

Then at 1:00, we get to book a 3rd reservation at MK. This is C1. Once we hop after 2:00, we keep this rolling, use B1, book B2, use A2, book, A3, use C1, book C2.

First, is this right or am I missing something? Second, am I right in thinking that we will only be able to get one G+ option at Hollywood Studios or could we use our A2 reservation to get something at HS at like 1:15 or so...or does that mess up the stacking in some way?

Also, do we have to keep track of the order we need to use them in? So like does A2 HAVE to come after B1 to keep the stack going? Or does it not really matter?

 

[snikki]

Are people finding more availability with this than with FP+?

I loved FP+ but we barely utilized legacy FP due to the running around. It was too much with small kids. FP+ allowed me 3 rides a day which was probably 2 more rides than we used with legacy FP. We did FP+ in our PM park and we weren’t FP+ refreshers so rarely, if ever, did we get more than our initial 3. I feel with G+ we are going to be able to do more rides and save more time. Yes we have to pay now but time is money.

 

[leeniewdw]

Man, I feel like I usually get all this stuff but for whatever reason, I'm struggling with the stacking here! So I'll be down for a quick two-day trip in a couple of weeks, and one day we're doing Hollywood Studios and hopping to Magic Kingdom after 2. Plan on taking advantage of early entry hours and rope dropping Hollywood Studios, and will probably get an ILL for Rise of the Resistance. I'm very interested in stacking for our evening at Magic Kingdom, but I want to make sure I understand the implications.

So at 7, we book something at Hollywood Studios with a starting window from 10:30ish to 11. This is A1 reservation.

We tour HS as normal, taking advantage of EEH. Then at 11, we book a reservation for MK, at some point after 2. This is B1 reservation.

We then use our A1 reservation and get to book A2, which is something at MK after B1.

Then at 1:00, we get to book a 3rd reservation at MK. This is C1. Once we hop after 2:00, we keep this rolling, use B1, book B2, use A2, book, A3, use C1, book C2.

First, is this right or am I missing something? Second, am I right in thinking that we will only be able to get one G+ option at Hollywood Studios or could we use our A2 reservation to get something at HS at like 1:15 or so...or does that mess up the stacking in some way?

Also, do we have to keep track of the order we need to use them in? So like does A2 HAVE to come after B1 to keep the stack going? Or does it not really matter?

The bolded part is key, but yes I think this is exactly how it works.

I think the 2nd LL at HS (A2) would work depending on what kind of return times are available. At 11:15, would there be something else that's available before 2pm that you want to ride at HS? I JUST looked at the app about an hour ago and was thinking most HS rides were later than when you'd want to hop. But that's something you could monitor via MDE and see how likely that might be.

 

[badinnplaid]

Ahh--okay, so we think that if I made one at Hollywood Studios (depending on availability) at say 1:30--that would be okay, because I could still reserve one my 3rd one at 1 and keep it all going.

 

[emilymad]

So with stacking is the rules always to book a LL then use the existing LL?

 

[leeniewdw]

Ahh--okay, so we think that if I made one at Hollywood Studios (depending on availability) at say 1:30--that would be okay, because I could still reserve one my 3rd one at 1 and keep it all going.

I am NO EXPERT, nor have I used this in person, so I've just been reading and reading. I think the only thing that would be an issue is that your "stack" would likely stay at 2 LLs unless you had a longer gap before hopping to MK. I might play around with this idea and see what I come up with.

 

[Disturbia]

SM has single rider at DL, not WDW.

Unless something has changed, WDW single rider lanes available at: TT, RNR, MFSR, and EE

Skipped it for many years and have only ridden with FP+ Or Halloween party; sorry my bad

 

[Disturbia]

I didn’t even know that if you didn’t ride a ride, Genie+ still will see it as a future ride so if he didn’t ride 10:45-11:45 Genie+, he can book an afternoon pass at 11 am and then go ride the 10:45 ride

everyday I’m learning something new