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Biden Unwraps His Bid for ’08 With an Oops!
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By ADAM NAGOURNEY
Published: February 1, 2007
WASHINGTON, Jan. 31 — In an era of meticulous political choreography, the staging of the kickoff for this presidential candidacy could hardly have gone worse.


Stephen Crowley/The New York Times
Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., head of the Foreign Relations Committee, who Wednesday announced his Democratic presidential candidacy.

More Politics NewsSenator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, who announced his candidacy on Wednesday with the hope that he could ride his foreign policy expertise into contention for the Democratic nomination, instead spent the day struggling to explain his description of Senator Barack Obama, the Illinois Democrat running for president, as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

The remark, published Wednesday in The New York Observer, left Mr. Biden’s campaign struggling to survive its first hours and injected race more directly into the presidential contest. The day ended, appropriately enough for the way politics is practiced now, with Mr. Biden explaining himself to Jon Stewart on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show.”

Earlier, in a decidedly nonpresidential afternoon conference call with reporters that had been intended to announce his candidacy, Mr. Biden, speaking over loud echoes and a blaring television set, said that he had been “quoted accurately.” He volunteered that he had called Mr. Obama to express regret that his remarks had been taken “out of context,” and that Mr. Obama had assured him he had nothing to explain.

“Barack Obama is probably the most exciting candidate that the Democratic or Republican party has produced at least since I’ve been around,” he said, adding: “Call Senator Obama. He knew what I meant by it. The idea was very straightforward and simple. This guy is something brand new that nobody has seen before.”

Asked about Mr. Biden’s comments, Mr. Obama said in an interview, “I didn’t take it personally and I don’t think he intended to offend.” Mr. Obama, who serves with Mr. Biden on the Foreign Relations Committee, added, “But the way he constructed the statement was probably a little unfortunate.”

But later in the day, with Mr. Biden coming under fire from some black leaders, Mr. Obama issued a statement that approached a condemnation. “I didn’t take Senator Biden’s comments personally, but obviously they were historically inaccurate,” he said. “African-American presidential candidates like Jesse Jackson, Shirley Chisholm, Carol Moseley Braun and Al Sharpton gave a voice to many important issues through their campaigns, and no one would call them inarticulate.”

For Mr. Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, it was an inauspicious beginning to his first presidential campaign since 1988, when he dropped out after acknowledging using without attribution portions of a speech from a British politician. By the end of the day on Wednesday, Democrats were asking only half-jokingly whether Mr. Biden might be remembered for having the shortest-lived presidential campaign in the history of the Republic.

Shortly after 6 p.m., Mr. Biden issued a written statement. “I deeply regret any offense my remark in the New York Observer might have caused anyone,” he said. “That was not my intent and I expressed that to Senator Obama.”

Under questioning from reporters at his announcement conference call, Mr. Biden was pressed on what he meant in his description of Mr. Obama, particularly in his use of the word clean.

“He understood exactly what I meant,” Mr. Biden said. “And I have no doubt that Jesse Jackson and every other black leader — Al Sharpton and the rest — will know exactly what I meant.”

When he was asked, again, what he meant, Mr. Biden — known in Washington for his long-winded ways and his love of the microphone and the spotlight — bristled as he struggled over the squawk of feedback and echoes.

“I’m not going to repeat everything I just said,” he said. “There is a vote that starts at 2:30, it takes 11 minutes to get to the floor. I can take one more question but not on the subject I have already spoken to.”

And after taking one more question, Mr. Biden did something entirely out of character: He announced he was done talking.

Mr. Biden’s assurances notwithstanding, both Mr. Jackson and Mr. Sharpton — African-Americans who have run for president — said they had no idea what Mr. Biden meant. And both suggested they felt at least a little offended by the remarks.

Mr. Jackson described Mr. Biden’s remarks to the Observer, which also included critical statements about the Iraq positions of two of his Democratic opponents — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina — as “blabbering bluster.”

A wounded note to his voice, Mr. Jackson pointed out that he had run against Mr. Biden for the 1988 Democratic nomination, and had lasted far longer and drawn more votes than did Mr. Biden. Mr. Biden was forced out in September 1987.

“I am not sure what he means — ask him to explain what he meant,” Mr. Jackson said. “I don’t know whether it was an attempt to diminish what I had done in ’88, or to say Barack is all style and no substance.”

Mr. Sharpton said that when Mr. Biden called him to apologize, Mr. Sharpton started off the conversation reassuring Mr. Biden about his hygienic practices. “I told him I take a bath every day,” Mr. Sharpton said.

No stranger to electoral intrigue, Mr. Sharpton was quick to offer a political motive: That Mr. Biden was drawing distinctions between Mr. Obama and African-American leaders like Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson, to “discredit Mr. Obama with his base.”

At the very least, Mr. Biden’s remarks obscured a campaign roll-out in which he said that Mr. Bush had “dug America into a very big hole” with the war in Iraq and that the nation would need a leader experienced in foreign policy to take over during dangerous times. More than that, it seemed sure to harden Mr. Biden’s image in political circles as politically undisciplined, an image he had been working scrupulously to change in what has emerged as a long-term political rehabilitation project for him.

In his conference call, Mr. Biden quoted his mother in trying to explain what he meant about Mr. Obama. “My mother has an expression: Clean as a whistle and sharp as a tack,” Mr. Biden said, showering more praise on one of his biggest opponents for the nomination.

On Comedy Central, he told Mr. Stewart: “What got me in trouble was using the world clean. I should have said fresh. What I meant was he’s got new ideas.”

Mr. Biden’s comments also focused new attention on remarks he made about Indians last year, when he said, “you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.”

Before he went on television, Mr. Biden found himself sharing a stage with Mr. Obama at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Iraq, where he was noticeably solicitous to his new presidential rival as members of the committee questioned Henry Kissinger, the former secretary of state. Mr. Biden chastised Senator John Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat, to keep his comments short (“just one minute, Senator, or we will have everybody else”).

But he could not have been more accommodating to Mr. Obama as the senator from Illinois began wrapping up: “I know I’m out of time.”

Mr. Biden would have none of that. “That’s O.K.,” he told Mr. Obama. “You’re making a very salient point.”

Jeff Zeleny and Helene Cooper contributed reporting from Washington, and Conrad Mulcahy from New York.
 
Oh boy, let the fireworks begin. First we are going to have to listen to all of the in-party fighting (in both camps) for the next few months, THEN when the two or three main players finally emerge we are going to have to listen to the mud-slinging from one camp to the other.
I have a feeling that this is going to be the ugliest, dirtiest campaign in the history of politics, and starting off with stories like this just goes to reinforce that theory.
 
I am so upset I can't see straight!

I'm sure you heard what Joseph Biden said about Barack Obama: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Obviously Biden meant nothing bad, as he's a liberal, and liberals aren't racist (heck, even Jesse Jackson made a joke about it!).

No, what I'm so cheesed about is that none of the Republicans, who clearly are racists, said these words.

Why oh why couldn't Tancredo or any other potential Republican candidate have said anything along these lines? The last 200 or so blacks presently voting GOP would jump ship with all their friends and 2 zillion illegitimate children, (many of voting age) and the Presidency would be ours without even having to break a sweat.

Predictably, a few right-wingers are trying to get political traction from Joe's innocent remarks, but nothing will come of it, as the statement is basically true anyway - Obama does look much cleaner than all our present black politicians (like Charles Rangel for example), is obviously much brighter than Al Sharpton (who's still searching for the evil crackers who put poop all over Tawanda Brawley), and is a male model compared to Jesse Jackon, who looks like one of those rubber dolls you squeeze and its eyes pop out.

In summation: Correct statement, just spoken by the wrong party. Oh, what might have been!

:laughing:
 
Biden seemed like a long shot to begin with.
 

I am so upset I can't see straight!

I'm sure you heard what Joseph Biden said about Barack Obama: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Obviously Biden meant nothing bad, as he's a liberal, and liberals aren't racist (heck, even Jesse Jackson made a joke about it!).

No, what I'm so cheesed about is that none of the Republicans, who clearly are racists, said these words.

Why oh why couldn't Tancredo or any other potential Republican candidate have said anything along these lines? The last 200 or so blacks presently voting GOP would jump ship with all their friends and 2 zillion illegitimate children, (many of voting age) and the Presidency would be ours without even having to break a sweat.

Predictably, a few right-wingers are trying to get political traction from Joe's innocent remarks, but nothing will come of it, as the statement is basically true anyway - Obama does look much cleaner than all our present black politicians (like Charles Rangel for example), is obviously much brighter than Al Sharpton (who's still searching for the evil crackers who put poop all over Tawanda Brawley), and is a male model compared to Jesse Jackon, who looks like one of those rubber dolls you squeeze and its eyes pop out.

In summation: Correct statement, just spoken by the wrong party. Oh, what might have been!

:laughing:

Oh Puleeze, The "Party of Lincoln", racist? There are more minorities in this administration than there have been in the previous party of "happy talk" or in any previous administration. I notice that you only mentioned Sharpton, Jackson and Rangel as your stellar examples of black candidates. Doesn't Alan Keyes count as a credible and articulate black candidate? Isn't Michael Steele an articulate, "clean" black man who ran for the senate in MD? No, it was the wrong statement spoken by the correct party who like to use the race card and class war fare to win political races.
 
Biden seemed like a long shot to begin with.

Biden's inability to weigh his words and control his mouth really point out the need for good judgement to be in the candidate's repetoire. Clearly, Biden has had these kind of "misjudgements" before. This is more of the same.
 
Senator Joe Biden remains under fire from both Republicans and Democrats over a racially insensitive remark he made regarding black presidential candidate Barack Obama. Speaking to the New York Observer recently Biden said, "I mean you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean that's a storybook, man."

However, the flood gates of criticism really opened up on Biden when the remainder of his comments were made public.

"Look, this guy is great with words. Big words. Little words. Medium words. Even compound words. Very impressive. Furthermore, I think it was a smart move to have him put down his basketball and Q'aran during photo opportunities. He clearly has good people advising him."

Not content with offending only blacks, Biden caused even more of a stir with statements regarding other prominent Democratic presidential contenders.

"Her people must be very proud. It wasn't too long ago that they could only be phys ed teachers, and now she's just 25 million drunken voters away from the presidency." - on Hillary Clinton
"You'd have to be blind to have not seen this guy's success coming. First he was treasurer of his high school's Involuntary Abstinence program. Next he was coordinator of the Middle Earth Society's Dungeon's & Dragons Potluck Dinner. And that's not even counting his four years as assistant score keeper for the chess club. The sky is the limit for Dennis. He will be a tough opponent." on Dennis Kucinich
"I think it's great that he's out there trying to be president again, just great. I wish he'd wear his helmet, but it's still great." -on Al Gore
Biden supporters can next catch the senator this weekend giving a speech to Yale University's Hispanic Student Union entitled, "Alberto Gonzalez: Dude Has Never Once Stabbed Me."


:laughing:
 
Nelson is a great liberal political satirist but I am not about to take anything he posts very seriously.
 
And Trent Lott had to resign his post for his comments. I guess Biden can now go to a party, drink and drive a car off a bridge, and attend a KKK meeting
 
And Trent Lott had to resign his post for his comments. I guess Biden can now go to a party, drink and drive a car off a bridge, and attend a KKK meeting

And show up to vote at the Capitol at 3 in the morning! Truer words were never spoken. :rotfl2:
 
Senator Joe Biden remains under fire from both Republicans and Democrats over a racially insensitive remark he made regarding black presidential candidate Barack Obama. Speaking to the New York Observer recently Biden said, "I mean you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean that's a storybook, man."

However, the flood gates of criticism really opened up on Biden when the remainder of his comments were made public.

"Look, this guy is great with words. Big words. Little words. Medium words. Even compound words. Very impressive. Furthermore, I think it was a smart move to have him put down his basketball and Q'aran during photo opportunities. He clearly has good people advising him."

Not content with offending only blacks, Biden caused even more of a stir with statements regarding other prominent Democratic presidential contenders.

"Her people must be very proud. It wasn't too long ago that they could only be phys ed teachers, and now she's just 25 million drunken voters away from the presidency." - on Hillary Clinton
"You'd have to be blind to have not seen this guy's success coming. First he was treasurer of his high school's Involuntary Abstinence program. Next he was coordinator of the Middle Earth Society's Dungeon's & Dragons Potluck Dinner. And that's not even counting his four years as assistant score keeper for the chess club. The sky is the limit for Dennis. He will be a tough opponent." on Dennis Kucinich
"I think it's great that he's out there trying to be president again, just great. I wish he'd wear his helmet, but it's still great." -on Al Gore
Biden supporters can next catch the senator this weekend giving a speech to Yale University's Hispanic Student Union entitled, "Alberto Gonzalez: Dude Has Never Once Stabbed Me."


:laughing:
:rotfl2: :rotfl: I'm sorry....its funny.
 
I wouldn't put Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in the same league with Barack Obama. Senator Obama appears to be a man of class. I cannot the say the same about Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, since I consider them both classless opportunists. And I don't particularly care what color anybody's skin is. Neither race nor money have anything to do with whether or not a person has class.
 
I wouldn't put Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in the same league with Barack Obama. Senator Obama appears to be a man of class. I cannot the say the same about Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, since I consider them both classless opportunists. And I don't particularly care what color anybody's skin is. Neither race nor money have anything to do with whether or not a person has class.

I agree.
 
Oh Puleeze, The "Party of Lincoln", racist? There are more minorities in this administration than there have been in the previous party of "happy talk" or in any previous administration. I notice that you only mentioned Sharpton, Jackson and Rangel as your stellar examples of black candidates. Doesn't Alan Keyes count as a credible and articulate black candidate? Isn't Michael Steele an articulate, "clean" black man who ran for the senate in MD? No, it was the wrong statement spoken by the correct party who like to use the race card and class war fare to win political races.

You and I know this, but unfortunately I think you may have wasted your breath Dawn.
 
Doesn't Alan Keyes count as a credible and articulate black candidate? Isn't Michael Steele an articulate, "clean" black man who ran for the senate in MD?

I just thought of someone you missed Dawn, J.C. Watts, former U.S. Representative from Oklahoma 1995 - 2005
 
Oh Puleeze, The "Party of Lincoln", racist? There are more minorities in this administration than there have been in the previous party of "happy talk" or in any previous administration. I notice that you only mentioned Sharpton, Jackson and Rangel as your stellar examples of black candidates. Doesn't Alan Keyes count as a credible and articulate black candidate? Isn't Michael Steele an articulate, "clean" black man who ran for the senate in MD? No, it was the wrong statement spoken by the correct party who like to use the race card and class war fare to win political races.

Yeah, and especially that Maccaca guy - what's his name, from TN? He's a lover of minorities, too.
 
I can't see myself voting for Senator Obama, but I do think he is most definitely heads and shoulders above any of the other black men that have run for President.

And though I think the whole Biden thing was overblown, I can't help but laugh. I knew it wouldn't take Senator Biden too long before his bloviating style got him into trouble, but I just assumed he would make it through the first week. :lmao: :lmao:
 
Yeah, and especially that Maccaca guy - what's his name, from TN? He's a lover of minorities, too.

George Allen, and he's from VA, not TN. And you might want to actually learn about some of the work he did with black organizations before you jump to conclusions about his opinions on minorities.
 
George Allen, and he's from VA, not TN. And you might want to actually learn about some of the work he did with black organizations before you jump to conclusions about his opinions on minorities.

It doesn't really matter what kind of posing he did in the past, does it? His true colors showed that day because he couldn't control the nasty, racist beast inside him. And he lost. Justice was served and he can go away and not bother us now.
 
In light of some of the comments made on this thread, one has to wonder if Barbara Bush is yet again wondering if this is working out very well for them.....
 


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