The Duggar Family

[Indiana Rose Lee]

a slap in the face is still a slap in the face, even when you say "but I meant it to be helpful" It is clearly NOT.

Sortof like your comments about others? In the end I really hope that you can get that stuff dealt with. Can you say the same for
the people you've been tearing at? You've said horrid things about people and their choices. You meant those in a kind way?

There is too much hate in this world and in this thread.

Per baby Josie, it is incredible that she is doing well. Sucks
being lactose intolerant! Btdt!

 

[princessmom29]

Sortof like your comments about others? In the end I really hope that you can get that stuff dealt with. Can you say the same for
the people you've been tearing at? You've said horrid things about people and their choices. You meant those in a kind way?

There is too much hate in this world and in this thread.

Per baby Josie, it is incredible that she is doing well. Sucks
being lactose intolerant! Btdt!

Calling child abuse child abuse and telling somenone you don't know that they need therapy are apples and oranges. I don't have any "stuff" to deal with. I don't think that disliking a culture that promotes the abuse of children means I need therapy. IIf that is the case then I hope EVERYONE needs therapy right along with me. I haven't said anything that they haven't said themselves in their own literature. I just didn't dress it up the same way. All I am doing is educating here. They areputting this stuuf out there for the workld to see. You just have to know wher to look. AS for the Duggars, they claim to ascribe to the teachings of quiverfull, so I can only assume they are donig what they suggest. It is an assumption and very well may not be the case, but I can only go by where they say their alliegance lies.

 

[dreamin_disney]

is there anyways i can close this thread??????

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Report the thread with the little triangle. Quickest and easiest.

 

[C.Ann]

is there anyways i can close this thread??????

If you're the OP, I think you can ask the mods to close it..

No way I'm getting any further involved in this thread.. It's a shame..

 

[chimo2u]

If you're the OP, I think you can ask the mods to close it..

No way I'm getting any further involved in this thread.. It's a shame..

Before it is laid to rest, I agree....it's gotten way out of hand

 

[badblackpug]

Ya know I dont really think anyone needs anyone else on here ' praying' for them...that is so condescending

I really must agree. The idea here is that you have to pray to your deity to "fix" or "save" someone. In all the instances here "I will pray for you" was NOT meant as a nice thing, it was meant as an insult, and I'm fairly sure the people that said it are aware of that. I respect that everyone has the right to their beliefs within the constraints of your chosen religion, but you must understand that not everyone believes as you do, and to suggest that you need to pray to someone to lead them to your way of thinking is insulting.

While using the term "breeder" to describe a person is certainly not very sensitive, the theories that princessmom has posted about the quiverfull concept are all the same theories that I am finding while researching this topic. The adherents of this concept are encouraged to have as many children as possible to re-populate the world with fundamentalist christians.

It's a shame that such an interesting thread had to circle the drain and become full of insults and proselytizing.

 

[MomToOne]

Ph my! All I'm saying us that if someone is carrying hate around that xounselors can help! I have a great deal of respect for those in the field. I dint see it as a negative to tell people there are experts that can help
them out! I wouldn't want to raise my kids with that kind of negative.

I have no problems with counseling. What I have a major problem with is you actually thinking you know enough from a few postings on a discussion board to think to even suggest someone "needs help" because they are "carrying around hate". That is WAY overboard.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Merely Suggesting. This isn't family court. A suggeatio
based on rude comments and a brief family description. Lol, I've seen courts recommend it based on less.

It was perfectly easy to discuss this crew without the rudeness. Many people did. Some chose to use terminology intended to incite.

 

[MomToOne]

Merely Suggesting. This isn't family court. A suggeatio
based on rude comments and a brief family description. Lol, I've seen courts recommend it based on less.

It was perfectly easy to discuss this crew without the rudeness. Many people did. Some chose to use terminology intended to incite.

Including you. Saying she is "carrying around hate"=terminology intended to incite.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

Lol. Too funny. That is so much like calling people breeders. Not.

 

[dreamin_disney]

Report the thread with the little triangle. Quickest and easiest.

Thank you. Did it

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

You are welcome. I clicked it earlier but there seems
to be real trouble elsewhere! It may be a bit. I also apogized
to the mods for my part in the derailment. Def owe you the same. I hate when people act , well won't go there again. Be well!

 

[leahjade]

I don't know what religion the Duggars are but I have NEVER heard them speak raising an army for Armegedden. A lot of these comments are on this thread are ridiculous and meant to condemn Christians. The family seems happy, the parents marriage is strong and the kids are well-bahaved and dont' act like spoiled brats - not much more anyone could want out of life. With all the hate on this board, you'd think the family was crashing planes into buildings or beheading tourists!

 

[jodifla]

I can't stand the Duggars' lifestyle, and think the fascination with them is a bit sick. This family is marginalizing their daughters....how can ANYONE support that! These girls don't have choices in their lives. They are basically prisoners/slaves.

In my book, a MOTHER raises the chidren, NOT the daughters. So she really doesn't go down as any kind of mother to look up to.

I agree that they have a right to have as many children as they like. But don't look for a lot of us to go around applauding it.

I was flipping through the channels last night, and caught a bit of the 19 and counting show, which I'd not seen before. They couple are certainly well-spoken, but the I thought it was horrible that they basically turned Josie's trials into a plot twist for their show.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I am not commenting on anything other than the enviornmental impact point that someone brought up. They addresses this on a viewer question show and I found the answer interesting.

I would be interested in what their actual calculated carbon foot print, but let us discuss what we know:

1. They buy used on practically everything while many many smaller families don't. They are taking perfectly good cast offs and in most cases, using it until it is worn out.

2. Their home--they have an energy efficient fire operated heating system. Not sure how that works....except that it doesn't depend on oil. They salvaged a tree from their yard that had to come down. It provided heat for one month.

3. They "carpool". Probably utilizing less energy than muliple smaller families for transportation.


It is easy to judge the family for their paper plate usage---but at he same time folks who do that wouldn't be caught dead in a second hand store.

There are other things I could say to point out inconsistentcies in the opposition. But that is what makes the topic so controversial.

 

[lilybrooke14]

I think the Duggars make it because of the show. In the first special, they were living in a rented home that was no where near enough for their needs. After a few specials, they built their nice new home (with a little extra decorating help from the network). I'd imagine that the show is their main source of profit, and has been for many years now.

Outside of that, I disagree with many of their beliefs, but they can believe whatever they want. I'm sure they'd disagree with many of mine as well. I think it's medically irresponsible for them to try and have any more children after Mrs. Duggar's body failed her during her last pregnancy, but no one can stop them from doing it.

I've also assumed the reason they're encouraging the girls to be nurses is so that they don't have to rely so much on medical facilities in the future. The Duggar grandchild was born at home with a midwife, and I'd imagine there's going to be a lot more of that in the future. No need to go outside of the family if there are midwives and nurses living right in the home. I would imagine that some of the girls are encouraged to get teaching degrees for the same reasons. Open up their very own one room school house, and just teach the family members.

 

[DMRick]

They fully admit to being part of the quiverfull group. And that is what their belief is..to out populate the rest of the world, and fill political offices, etc. It's easily found with a google search. I think many Christians would like to see the world run by Christians, so I don't find that to be all the weird, that they would want that. However, obviously not everyone would want that.

I don't know what religion the Duggars are but I have NEVER heard them speak raising an army for Armegedden.

 

[badblackpug]

I don't know what religion the Duggars are but I have NEVER heard them speak raising an army for Armegedden. A lot of these comments are on this thread are ridiculous and meant to condemn Christians. The family seems happy, the parents marriage is strong and the kids are well-bahaved and dont' act like spoiled brats - not much more anyone could want out of life. With all the hate on this board,you'd think the family was crashing planes into buildings or beheading tourists!

The Duggar are openly part of the "quiverful" movement, whose main tenets are to have as many children as possible to re-populate the world with "biblical christians." Again, remember this is a television show which relies on viewers to make money, the Duggars and the network are not going to publicly say anything that may offend or alienate viewers.

BTW... my marriage is strong. My family is happy. My children are well behaved and don't act like spoiled brats. We just arrived at it in a very different fashion.

I'm not sure why you continue to think that because people disagree with the Duggars and their beliefs and lifestyle they are anti-christian. People disagree with the Duggars. I would venture to say that a good majority of people on this thread who have disagreed ARE christian. No one is condemning an entire group for the actions of a few radicals.
Hmmmm? ...or are they?

 

[tinker&belle]

I guess this is off topic, but it is in relation to this thread. I have never really been fond of the Duggar's choices but I always considered it a 'their choices, their business' kind of thing.

I have a dear friend who has been pulled into this (QF) movement, and I understood some of it but this thread has caused me to find some links due to terminology that make some of the things she has told me make some more sense. I am very worried about her many children (she has WAY more than the average family, don't want to give away identifying detail because few families have this many).

I'm sure there are good marriages for Quiverfull people. (The Duggars seem to be a prime example of this). It just seems like this 'philosophy' would attract men who are dominating as well and give them 'justification' for what they are doing and the wives feel like they have no choices. (This seems to be my friend's situation.)

My friend has told me she shouldn't have choices, her DH is her 'head' and should decide things for her. She has also told me life is not for being happy, but for being selfless. I worry about her since there was a history of domestic violence before the children were born and she wouldn't leave him then and certainly won't now.