The Disney Dog Collar (MagicBand)

[dadddio]

Much less secure, in my opinion. I don't know how they fasten - probably pretty securely, but you are on fast rides, some in the dark, it seems like it wouldn't take much for it to catch on something or fall off without you knowing.

We usually keep our cards in a zippered pocket on a messenger backpack that always stays with us. I guess we could lose the whole bag, but that sounds harder to do than a bracelet..

Some of these are going to get lost, just like other stuff gets lost. Luckily, replacement of these will be super easy since all they will have to do is link the replacement bracelet to your profile.

 

[Sammie]

It is not a problem with me at all. When I don't want to wear it, I will simply fasten it to my bag. As to the whole invasion of privacy, Big Brother, etc. its fine with me for Mickey to be my Big Brother.

 

[Sammie]

If they turn it into a shock collar, I'm done....

Only if you misbehave.

 

[Mad Hattered]

If they turn it into a shock collar, I'm done....

Just don't show up late for your FP+ return time that you made 2 months in advance!!!!

 

[Superspectral]

Disney is probably trying to force you to wear an RFID wristband, rather than carry an RFID key card, because it is much more likely to clearly transmit over a longer range than a card. A wristband is out in the open, in clear view of the receivers all the time. The radio waves from a card is more likely to be blocked or attenuated by the body, a wallet, a purse, keys, or something else that weakens the signal. Of course, blocking a card doesn't matter if you take it out to press it against a known card reader (at your hotel door, or at a cash register, or in a fastpass kiosk). But Disney clearly wants to spy on you all the time, not just when you are purposely using your card. A wristband is going to be a better tool for the marketing spy.

Having a wristband transmit my childrens names to Cinderella frankly seems creepy and counterintuitve to good stranger safety practices you may teach your children. Generally, I think it is a good idea to teach your children to be wary of a strange adult who knows their name without asking.

It really seems to me that Disney could have implemented most of the FP+ features that might benefit customers (although the jury is still out on whether the features really are benefits over the old FP) simply by programming the old FP kiosks to print out FP+ tickets that had been reserved online. Disney is spending around a *billion* dollars on this system. Not all on wristbands for sure, but I think they could have had an effective and less intrusive upgrade for far less money. *None* of this billion dollars adds new attractions or refurbishes the many areas of WDW that are allowed to remain shabby for far too long.

 

[AmberHeartsDisney]

You do know you can opt out? You don't have to per take in the bands.

 

[ses1230]

Disney is probably trying to force you to wear an RFID wristband, rather than carry an RFID key card, because it is much more likely to clearly transmit over a longer range than a card. A wristband is out in the open, in clear view of the receivers all the time. The radio waves from a card is more likely to be blocked or attenuated by the body, a wallet, a purse, keys, or something else that weakens the signal. Of course, blocking a card doesn't matter if you take it out to press it against a known card reader (at your hotel door, or at a cash register, or in a fastpass kiosk). But Disney clearly wants to spy on you all the time, not just when you are purposely using your card. A wristband is going to be a better tool for the marketing spy.

Having a wristband transmit my childrens names to Cinderella frankly seems creepy and counterintuitve to good stranger safety practices you may teach your children. Generally, I think it is a good idea to teach your children to be wary of a strange adult who knows their name without asking.

It really seems to me that Disney could have implemented most of the FP+ features that might benefit customers (although the jury is still out on whether the features really are benefits over the old FP) simply by programming the old FP kiosks to print out FP+ tickets that had been reserved online. Disney is spending around a *billion* dollars on this system. Not all on wristbands for sure, but I think they could have had an effective and less intrusive upgrade for far less money. *None* of this billion dollars adds new attractions or refurbishes the many areas of WDW that are allowed to remain shabby for far too long.

But you have presumably taken your child to Disney World and stood in line to see Cinderella. Why is it creepy for her to know your child's name when you have arranged the meeting? Is it less creepy to go to Disney, stand in line to meet Cinderella and she doesn't know your name? You can probably opt out, but I don't understand the thinking.

 

[rock_doctor]

If they turn it into a shock collar, I'm done....

I like it!!! Somebody jumps inline in front of you. You jump on a special website and find their collar from the list and zap them... Or even better!!!!!!!!!!!!! you go to your DVC laundry room and somebody is using all of the machines doing 8 loads of three items each....SHOCK EM!!! I would pay extra for that!

 

[Kona65]

Who else thinks that these MagicBand wristbands look uncomfortable or thinks that the RFID tracking is a creepy invasion of privacy? Non FP+ guests can see you are wearing the band - do you want to be singled out as someone privileged? What if you or you kid don't want to wear one of these things? Is a card an alternative? The video I saw said they are phasing out the cards for the wristbands - is this true?

If it comes to it, and I just don't want to wear one, I will put it in my backpack or pocket. Or better yet, find somewhere else to take my vacation. TDBIASWS.

 

[disneyag]

I don't understand those who say the Magicband would be an invasion of privacy. If you've EVER used a credit card, they have the same info the Magicband or KTTK cards have. My Mastercard company knows when I go to the grocery store, what airline I fly on, when I put gas in my car, and what hotels I reserve. The KTTK cards knew how much you charged and which parks you attended.

I think they are a great idea. I hated the bottleneck at the turnstiles each morning. Also, looks like you can stick to the KTTK card if you prefer.

 

[AJKMOM]

I don't trust that my credit card information would be secure. Also...I don't wear a watch because it feels restrictive so I can't imagine spending a day with the band on especially if it's hot or humid.

This.

Except the restrictive watch sentence. I need a Disney themed watch, and hate to check time on my cell.

 

[WhitGB]

The cruise line has been using the wrist bands on the kids for a while now and it works. The thing is big and bulky and no where as nice as the bands they propose in the parks but the kids seem to handle them fine. Depending on what a child's band will be used for and how they are attached, I saw many people putting them around a child's ankle. I don't want to promote having to flip over your kid to scan them for a fast pass but there are ways to make it work. Even the most stubborn child had them on and ignored them within a hour (my DD). I think this is much easier than trying to gather and take out 4 tickets each time we do something.

 

[SaraJayne]

Every time I read "MagicBand", it makes me think of a cheesy infomercial.

 

[kmarie99]

For those of you that think this is Big Brother watching you... Disney is has ALWAYS watched you. You are on camera almost every second of every day you are in Disney. They see your face, what you are doing, where you are going. What is the diferrence if they can see your name on a screen or your face?

I agree with PP if you are going to have Big Brother watching you (which we all do every day in one way or another) I want it to be Mickey Mouse

 

[Luvchefmic]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3042834&page=35
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3042821&page=26
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3041870&page=8
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3043873&page=8
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3043882&page=3

Please mods...consider a merge.

OR please make a 'sticky' thread & update from info directly from the Disney Co
there is way too many guesses and misinformation flying around the boards

 

[TDC Nala]

Outside the turnstiles, it will be the "haves" and the "have nots." Magic Band envy!

One of the articles about it say that anyone will have the opportunity to purchase a magic band, so even day guests can get one if they want one.

Having a wristband transmit my childrens names to Cinderella frankly seems creepy and counterintuitve to good stranger safety practices you may teach your children. Generally, I think it is a good idea to teach your children to be wary of a strange adult who knows their name without asking.

Have to say I really don't get the concern here in the context of meeting Cinderella in the park. I can't think it's a problem for Cinderella to get the kid's name. To most kids, Cinderella is not a strange adult - she's Cinderella. It's not like she's going to walk up to your kid in the street and say "want some candy, little Johnny?" Is it a concern with other guests hearing the name when she says it? If that's the case do you call your kids by name while you are walking around the park? Of course Cinderella will probably get the name from a handler with an Ipad, maybe it's the handler seeing the name.

If it is a concern, then Disney has already said that guests will be able to control the amount of information that is stored on their account for that purpose. But I really can't see Cinderella calling a kid by name as a risk.

 

[MedicGoofy]

Much less secure, in my opinion. I don't know how they fasten - probably pretty securely, but you are on fast rides, some in the dark, it seems like it wouldn't take much for it to catch on something or fall off without you knowing.

We usually keep our cards in a zippered pocket on a messenger backpack that always stays with us. I guess we could lose the whole bag, but that sounds harder to do than a bracelet popping off.

Just sort of "thinking out loud"...I like the bracelet idea, just considering about possible drawbacks. And the lanyard might be a good option too...

You mention that the bracelet could get caught while on a ride, during rides in the dark. You have many, many more issues to deal with if your bracelet wear to get caught on something while in the dark, like, perhaps, lose of a limb??

I hate wearing anything on my wrist. Nevermind my skin sensitivity... thinkn hot day and a nasty bracelet sweating in my wrist. Yeah...those r things to consider lol.
Or will they b one size fits most.....the questions!!!

So, basically, you have never done an all inclusive trip. Where you are required to were a resort ID band the entire length of your trip. So the resort knows you are a paying customer, and you don't get declined from services. This is basically the same thing, except, your CC info isn't on that. Certain amusement parks do this. And yes, all in the warm weather. This is not a new concept. I don't get why people 'wouldn't like it'. Talk about easy.

 

[TDC Nala]

Your credit card info is not on the band.

The band is just an access point to your Disney account profile, where your credit card information is stored. And you're not required to store it. You'll be able to pay with your own credit card or with cash like you do now, if that's what you prefer.

There's a post somewhere around here where someone posted exactly how the chips work, it was enlightening.

 

[DisneyFive]

I'm waiting to hear the alternatives they will offer to wristbands. I don't like the wristband idea for a few reasons.

1) I don't want to have something strapped to my wrist all day
2) I don't want them in all of our Disney family photos.
3) I fail to see how the wristband will be less bulky (layed flat or otherwise) in my pocket than the KTTW card that I was able to keep in my wallet.

The whole security issue them doesn't bother me one bit. It's the other things I've mentioned.

Dan

 

[NYDisneyKid]

what about finger scans? will they be tied to it?