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FTR, I am one church leader who does not wish to discuss politics in church. It's just not "the main thing". I'm trying to make disciples here, not conservaties or liberals. I don't want to be a "Republican" church or a "Democrat" church. I just want to welcome and serve people wherever they are on their spiritual journey (and wherever on the political spectrum) and help them become fully committed Christ-followers. As I often say to folks IRL, politics is small potatoes compared to discipleship.
We didn't discuss politics except to say that God would put who he wanted in office; God's in charge even if we didn't like who He chose. :lmao:

I think my beef comes more with people who act as if Christians are trying to push our religious beliefs on others and they invoke 'seperation of church and state' as if it's a magical mantra that should keep Christians at bay. :laughing:
 
We didn't discuss politics except to say that God would put who he wanted in office; God's in charge even if we didn't like who He chose. :lmao:

I think my beef comes more with people who act as if Christians are trying to push our religious beliefs on others and they invoke 'seperation of church and state' as if it's a magical mantra that should keep Christians at bay. :laughing:


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Transparant, it does sadden me that, yesterday of all days, you should have to deal with this teacher's prejudice. Sounds like you were fabulous, though - but who could doubt that you would be! I was an elementary teacher and have many teacher friends - so many stay in our public school system because they love their students and feel their work is a calling from God. They are working so hard just to keep up with all the crazy school politics and behavior issues that, no matter what their party line, they wouldn't have the time to editorialize or politicize.

That being said...is your next step the PTA? And then.....well, you do remember that's how SP got started!

Palin/Transparant 2016
 
transparent- I don't blame you for being angry. I would have been furious, too. Glad you were able to prove that the teacher was yelling.

I saw a little bit of the Palin/Gibson interview on youtube. Wow, um, I would would have liked to have seen him give Obama that same, exact interview, in that same, exact manner. I am proud of Palin, though.

I also, thought Mc Cain did really well last night. I like how is is straitforward with his answers and I thought he conducted himself really well.
 

Transparant, it does sadden me that, yesterday of all days, you should have to deal with this teacher's prejudice. Sounds like you were fabulous, though - but who could doubt that you would be! I was an elementary teacher and have many teacher friends - so many stay in our public school system because they love their students and feel their work is a calling from God. They are working so hard just to keep up with all the crazy school politics and behavior issues that, no matter what their party line, they wouldn't have the time to editorialize or politicize.

That being said...is your next step the PTA? And then.....well, you do remember that's how SP got started!

Palin/Transparant 2016
:eek: No way! I wouldn't get through the vetting process! :lmao:
 
Whoopi pretends to be worried about blacks becoming slaves again under a McCain administration, and Barbara's response is, "Us white folk will take care of you." :happytv:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=173183


I used to like Whoopi but I think Joy is rubbing off on her. :sad2:
The sad thing is that if Whoopi had a CLUE about the constitution, she would know the 13th amendment abolished slavery. An amendment that was voted on by the house and senate. WHEN McCain appoints a new SCJ, he wants them to UPHOLD the constitution, not legislate from the bench. So in this case, Whoopi should be voting for McCain, not againt him. :scratchin
 
Does Harry Reid have a crystal ball? :rotfl:

Reid Slips, Calls GOP Nominee "President McCain

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, in the middle of a lengthy defense Friday of Barack Obama’s leadership credentials, inadvertently referred to “President McCain.”

The slip came after he aggressively linked the Republican presidential nominee to the sitting President Bush, and suggested McCain would be a reckless commander in chief.

“We live in a dangerous and unpredictable world,” Reid said in an address on the Senate floor. “Our dangerous world calls for leaders with sound judgment, not those with a temperament prone to recklessness. … Will we stick with the same failed, out-of-touch foreign policy of George Bush, Dick Cheney and John McCain, which military experts and countless authors call the worst foreign policy in our nation’s history?”

But then Reid got a bit ahead of himself, as he began to describe Obama’s foreign policy toward Al Qaeda in Pakistan.

“President McCain even called the Obama approach naive,” Reid said.
 
WHAT?? That's incredible! But pastors aren't allowed to even tell their congregation who they will be voting for?? I would be livid! :mad:

Might not be allowed to tell it from the pulpit but mine sure has it all over the back of her car and in her wardrobe selection. I'm just sayin'. I'm having some church issues (not God issues) right now and I think most of it is because I know my pastor's politics. :headache: I'd rather not know.
 
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For you Transparent
 
Question:

I heard someone mention this yesterday. Lower than low IMHO, but did they ever find out who posted Trig Palin on Ebay??

I don't know too much about Ebay and I assume the listing has been removed but can the poster get in any kind of trouble other that rot in hell for being a miserable human being that is.?
 
Might not be allowed to tell it from the pulpit but mine sure has it all over the back of her car and in her wardrobe selection. I'm just sayin'. I'm having some church issues (not God issues) right now and I think most of it is because I know my pastor's politics. :headache: I'd rather not know.


:sad2: Gosh, hearing stuff like that makes me sad no matter how the political labels are spun. :sad2: Hang in there with God, and with church! Bless you for enduring. :hug: This is why none of my peeps would know my politics. I think a leader can become a stumbling block quickly if he/she is not careful.

I'm glad I get to come on the DIS and talk politics. It helps me restrain myself IRL. :rotfl:
 
Might not be allowed to tell it from the pulpit but mine sure has it all over the back of her car and in her wardrobe selection. I'm just sayin'. I'm having some church issues (not God issues) right now and I think most of it is because I know my pastor's politics. :headache: I'd rather not know.
:hug: I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with it.
My husband is a minister and didn't talk politics (granted, the sr pastor let him preach only once a year but that's another story :mad: ). I'm not a pastor but some congregants did ask who I was voting for. I simply said I was voting based on my principles and morals and left it at that.

I think for me if a pastor had certain views or embraced certain behaviors I'd wonder how well that pastor knew and believed the Bible. :confused3
 
One of the new memes I keep reading, both on the liberal blogs and in the press is that McCain has decided to "dishonor" himself in order to win the election. And that the "old" Straight Talk McCain, the one who was the press darling, would never have stooped so low. It's all just a shame, and such a pity. :rolleyes:

This editorial absolutely rips that fantasy to shreds. It's a bit long, but I highly recommend it:

HEADING THE LIST of a long, long, exceedingly long--we did say long, didn't we?--list of pundits, reporters, bloggers, and publications who have been suddenly been struck by a wave of nostalgia for the "old" John McCain, or the "real" John McCain, or the John McCain of 2000, Time's Joe Klein has been anticipating the apology McCain will make to him, once it is over, for the unworthy, nasty, disreputable, and really mean campaign he has run. Klein says he won't accept it, but he needn't worry. McCain, win or lose, will not make it, and there is no reason that he should.

First is the fact that given the built-in media bias, complaints by the press about "mean" campaigning are a reliable sign to Republicans that their tactics are working. Democratic slurs of conservatives as liars, bigots, and warmongers, cruelly indifferent to the needs of the poor, are described as "spirited," "red-blooded," and proof that the speakers are tough enough to be leading the country. Republican attacks on liberals as arrogant, out-of-it, and too weak to be leading the country are--well, you know, mean. Not to mention that most of these "savage" attacks consist of drawing attention to things said and done by the Democrats that the media would rather ignore: Michael Dukakis defending an insane furlough program for prisoners, John Kerry testifying to Congress that his own former shipmates were criminals, Dukakis looking goofy in a tank, that he climbed into of his own free volition, Kerry saying of himself that he had voted for Iraq war funding before voting against it, Obama condescending to Pennsylvania voters who supposedly cling to guns and God out of bitterness, Kerry windsurfing in shorts . . .. Embarrassing a Democrat with his own words and actions is just--sleazy. How low can you go?

Second is the fact that the press loved "the old McCain" of 2000 for only two reasons: He ran against George W. Bush, and he lost. The best Republican of all is one who nobly loses, which is what McCain looked like doing until he picked Sarah Palin, at which point most of the media exploded in fury. How dare he pick someone who might help him win? How dare he excite the public, when he was supposed to be boring? How dare he raise up a rival to The One? Face it: The reason they loved McCain in 2000 was that his zingers were aimed at Republicans and social conservatives who were not then his constituents. But had he made it into the general, and been aiming his fire at Al Gore and at the pro-choice extremists, the press's ardor for him would have died eight years earlier, and they would have denounced him as . . . mean. McCain hasn't changed: He was always a maverick, but a center-right maverick, a Republican maverick, an American exceptionalist, a security hawk, and a social traditionalist. Against George W. Bush and others, his digressions from dogma stood out more in contrast, but against a Democrat such as Barack Obama, he stands out as the center-right hawk that he is. The press wanted him to fight against other Republicans and to lose, or, barring that, to lose to a Democrat. He isn't complying. That's their problem, not his.


Third, McCain owes the press nothing, as its treatment of him has verged on sadistic or worse. In late July in the first flush of Obama's Grand Tour of the Near East and Europe, (when it still looked like a master stroke, instead of a misstep), McCain's old admirers in the media depicted him as a loser, so old, so befuddled, so hapless and helpless, compared to the luck, poise, and grace of The Star. "You could see McCain's frustration building as Barack Obama traipsed elegantly through the Middle East while the pillars of McCain's bellicose regional policy crumbled in his wake," Klein wrote on July 23. McCain "has appeared brittle and inflexible, slow to adapt to changes . . . slow to grasp the full implications not only of the improving situation in Iraq but also of the worsening situation in Afghanistan and especially Pakistan. . . . McCain seems panicked, and in deep trouble now."

Howard Fineman in Newsweek sounded an even more ominous note. "You can't make up how bad things are going for McCain," he intoned on July 22. "As Barack Obama embarks on his global coronation tour, it's hard to imagine things looking bleaker for his Republican rival. . . . He forgets there's a country named Iran between Iraq and Pakistan. . . . Maybe nothing he says really matters right now." Clarence Page, who styled himself one of McCain's "longtime defenders," kvelled over Obama's world conquest. "And where were you, Senator? While Obama spoke to hundreds
of thousands in Berlin, you were doing a meet-and-greet with a few dozen in a German restaurant in Columbus, Ohio. Whose bright idea was that?"

"McCain better watch out," Fineman said soberly. "The only thing worse than the media ignoring you and lionizing your opponent is the media pitying you and painting you as pathetic," he warned. And who might do such a thing? Well, maybe Joe Klein. "Some will say this behavior raises questions about his age," he said of McCain's imagined eclipse by Obama's junior year abroad trip to Berlin. "I'll leave those to gerontologists." Gerontologists? You stay classy, Joe. And for that apology, don't hold your breath.

Noemie Emery is a contributing editor to THE WEEKLY STANDARD.
 
I would have a difficult time going to a church that showed any sort of political leanings. Even if it was for my candidate, because my brain is wired to immediately look at it from the opposing perspective. Church is not a place where anyone should feel alienated.
 
I have never used Obama's initials, but seeing how much it riles some people up is going to make it really hard to resist now.:lmao: :rotfl2: :rotfl: Especially the poster who has such a fondness for exclamation marks!!!!!!!:laughing:

I did and it was very enjoyable. They came at me like a mad kitten with an AK 47! It is so good to know that the soft underbelly of the you know who is so easily exposed. PLEASE why on earth is using his intials considered racist?
One cannot control one's initials. After all what choice does a baby have when it comes to his/her name. What if Barak's name was Adam Harrinngton? OR Adam Sammual Smith? Would we refrain from using his intials then?????NO we would not! We would enjoy it!
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";27521541]Don't ya know :confused3 ...it will be Hillary's fault...:rotfl2:[/QUOTE]

I thought EVERYTHING was Bush's fault.
 
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