The Conservative - Liberal Debate Thread

[connorlevismom]

I am still waiting for someone to post "alot" of instances where liberals have called conservatives liars when they posted about their personal experiences.

All you have to do is a search for the UHC threads.

Kristine

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

Simply quoting a campaign line doesn't neccessarily make it so. Every credible economist has us headed into a recession. If the tax cuts were working we would be headed in the opposite direction. Remember "trickle down"? A more logical approach would be to end the trillions of dollars we are spending on this war, for a start. You can tell George Bush his tax breaks for the richest Americans do not offset his "drunken sailor" spending habits.

the tax cuts are 7 years old, we need NEW ones.

Don't you find it curious that Japan with the highest corporate tax rate in the world is in a recession and the US with the second highest is heading into one and losing jobs overseas?

If you need to get comfortable while you think about that, I can get you a pillow

Disclaimer: this post is intended to be a sarcastic play on Hillary Clinton's use of the word curious in the most recent debate. StrollPatrolmom, her many personalities, her children, and future heirs do not intend to be condescending. Thanks You.

 

[ford family]

Tax revenues go up and we have a massive debt. President George spends money like a drunken shopaholic and yet his policies are good for the economy because it could have been worse.

Sigh...

Do you know what percentage of "President George spends money like a drunken shopaholic" goes into the domestic market? Surely that spending would be beneficial to the economy?

As for the deficit, funded by China, Japan etc, isn't the USA in the position of any other borrower viz: Owe the bank $10,000 and you have a problem but owe the bank $10billion and they have the problem?

ford family

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

That is too cute! What made this woman start giving them to you in the first place?

Kristine

That's a good question. DW and I have tried to think what it might have been, but really don't know. She is just the sweetest thing how she does this every Sunday. Last year she was hospitalized for several weeks and actually had her son (also mentally challenged... long story) be sure we got our Reese's each week while she was in the hospital.

 

[Chloe'sMom]

All you have to do is a search for the UHC threads.

Kristine

Now be fair - you know the search function doesn't work!

~Amanda

 

[eclectics]

For those who don't think cutting spending will help anything, I just don't get that. Cutting spending and revemping wellfare and the like would do great things. You say that it is just not enough. Fine, it is not enough but why can't it be a start? Why do people poo poo the idea?

Kristine

And just who is saying cutting spending and welfare reform are bad things? Saying it's not enough is not the same as saying it shouldn't be done at all. I've always been a vocal champion of welfare reform.

I also think cutting spending could start with the Trillions we are spending on this war. You want a start? Okay, start with that.

 

[Chloe'sMom]

Do you know what percentage of "President George spends money like a drunken shopaholic" goes into the domestic market? Surely that spending would be beneficial to the economy?

As for the deficit, funded by China, Japan etc, isn't the USA in the position of any other borrower viz: Owe the bank $10,000 and you have a problem but owe the bank $10billion and they have the problem?

ford family

I haven't seen any conservative defend the majority of the spending that President Bush has done. I voted for him in 2000 based on him being conservative and believing that was what we needed at the time. I had no idea he would blow though money the way that he has.

I think true fiscally conservative politicians are dead.

~Amanda

 

[yeartolate]

All you have to do is a search for the UHC threads.

Kristine

Can you find the quotes where a conservative was called a liar while expressing a personal experience? According to the post , it happens alot, so there should be a number of examples. I cannot find them. So cut and paste away. They should be very easy to find as there are apparantly alot of libs calling "liar" to alot of conservatives out there over this issue.

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

I haven't seen any conservative defend the majority of the spending that President Bush has done. I voted for him in 2000 based on him being conservative and believing that was what we needed at the time. I had no idea he would blow though money the way that he has.

I think true fiscally conservative politicians are dead.

~Amanda

Mitt Romney 08


yeah, that worked out really well....

 

[crazyforgoofy]

the tax cuts are 7 years old, we need NEW ones.

Don't you find it curious that Japan with the highest corporate tax rate in the world is in a recession and the US with the second highest is heading into one and losing jobs overseas?

If you need to get comfortable while you think about that, I can get you a pillow

Disclaimer: this post is intended to be a sarcastic play on Hillary Clinton's use of the word curious in the most recent debate. StrollPatrolmom, her many personalities, her children, and future heirs do not intend to be condescending. Thanks You.

And yet she posts in the third person. Are you really Queen Elizabeth?

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

And yet she posts in the third person. Are you really Queen Elizabeth?

Bob Dole, actually.

 

[transparant]

I posted this on the Conservative thread and found this to be hysterical!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M70emIFxETs



It's 3 a.m. and the White House phone is ringing - who do you want to answer the phone?

Count how many times the phone rings - if something dangerous is happening in the world - for Gods sake, I want SOMEBODY to answer the phone! ROFL!

 

[eclectics]

I haven't seen any conservative defend the majority of the spending that President Bush has done.

I think true fiscally conservative politicians are dead.

~Amanda

No amount of their dancing around the issue changes the fact that a good part of the reason we are in so much debt is this administration's irresponsible fiscal attitude. My quoting true Conservative economists like Ben Stein saying these tax cuts are a deplorable action to take in todays atmosphere are totally ignored. No sense even arguing about it anymore.

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

No amount of their dancing around the issue changes the fact that a good part of the reason we are in so much debt is this administration's irresponsible fiscal attitude. My quoting true Conservative economists like Ben Stein saying these tax cuts are a deplorable action to take in todays atmosphere are totally ignored. No sense even arguing about it anymore.

thats one true economic conservative.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

No amount of their dancing around the issue changes the fact that a good part of the reason we are in so much debt is this administration's irresponsible fiscal attitude. My quoting true Conservative economists like Ben Stein saying these tax cuts are a deplorable action to take in todays atmosphere are totally ignored. No sense even arguing about it anymore.

... and while we're at it, maybe we could just also agree to disagree about the urgency of saving baby polar bears and changing over to poison-filled lightbulbs.

 

[eclectics]

... and while we're at it, maybe we could just also agree to disagree about the urgency of saving baby polar bears and changing over to poison-filled lightbulbs.

If you are unconcerned about Polar Bears becoming extinct and you prefer to not cut down on your energy usage, you have every right to do so.

 

[dejr_8]

To me assuming what might have happened is a bit too simplistic. I can only deal with what reality is, not what it could have been.

But you side wants to play the "What If" game about Iraq. That if we didn't go into Iraq, the Afghanistan situation would been solved. That if we didn't go into Iraq the world would love the US and there would be pease everywhere.

Can't have it both ways

 

[eclectics]

thats one true economic conservative.

Too bad you told me to get comfortable, or I'd dig up a few more quotes for you. Guess I'll pop in an old Reagan speech and take a nap.

 

[Chloe'sMom]

Mitt Romney 08


yeah, that worked out really well....

Actually there didn't seem to be to many in his fan club if I remember. I read up on him and he seemed to be a "wherever the wind blows" candidate. In other words saying what you wanted to hear in order to be elected. I know all politicians are that to a certain extent - but to go from a pro-choice campaign to be elected governor and then to a staunch pro-life campaign for President rang a little untrue for me. I feel the same way about McCain as well though.

Like I said - true fiscally conservative politicians are a dying breed.

~Amanda

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

Actually there didn't seem to be to many in his fan club if I remember. I read up on him and he seemed to be a "wherever the wind blows" candidate. In other words saying what you wanted to hear in order to be elected. I know all politicians are that to a certain extent - but to go from a pro-choice campaign to be elected governor and then to a staunch pro-life campaign for President rang a little untrue for me. I feel the same way about McCain as well though.

Like I said - true fiscally conservative politicians are a dying breed.

~Amanda

well, I agree his history on social issues hurt him, but he IS a true economic conservative.