The "cities" located in Walt Disney World

Thanks for sharing these links beastlyprince, I actually just heard this Podcast this morning and found the topic really interesting! Both neighborhoods seem surprisingly cookie-cutter, one even has a community pool and the other has what looks like a community basketball court. I've always wondered who actually "lives" there if anyone, in both satellite images there are very few cars parked, most of the houses seem to be sitting empty, at least from the outside it seems that way... Any thoughts anyone?
 
I did find this regarding Royal Oak:

" Who lives here? That's the great mystery that very few guests understand. Rumor has it you must be a Disney employee but there is more. These residents participate in a very unusual form of government that provides them lifestyle benefits never possible outside of the land owned by the Walt Disney World corporation. The only landowners in this small town are fully owned subsidiaries of Disney, and right-of-way for state and county roads.As long as they vote and maintain for the best interests of the Walt Disney company they will enjoy these lifestyle perks."
 
In my original post I attempted to supply a link to some info about these "cities", but the link was being blocked.

From theme park tourist . com (no spaces)

Disney government and secret cities

Walt Disney was no dummy. He learned valuable lessons from Disneyland, and he was determined to make his next project even better. Yet he chose to locate the Florida Project on swampland in the middle of nowhere. With the nearest power lines 15 miles away, the two counties whose borders the property saddled were not interested in paying the costs of developing the land. So Walt cut a highly unorthodox deal with the state of Florida, and the Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) was born.

As a special taxing district, RCID took sole responsibility for developing the property. Its creation also gave Disney the ability to bypass most of the normal permitting processes and rush projects through to completion—a power that came in very handy when Disney decided to beat Universal to the punch by opening its own movie park a year ahead of Universal Orlando.

Yet state lawmakers were concerned about giving a for profit company too much autonomous control. Disney needed voters and council representatives from at least two cities to handle the decisions that are typically managed at the city and county levels. At that time, Walt's Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow (EPCOT) was planned to include a massive residential area, so the idea of people living and voting at Walt Disney World was far from outlandish. The company quickly founded two tiny company towns, or neatly kept mobile home parks to be more accurate, and stocked them with employees of Walt Disney World or RCID.

Although EPCOT was significantly scaled down to become a theme park (EPCOT Center) and the plan for wide-scale residential living scrapped, the two towns were an integral and legal part of Disney’s governmental structure. So they were allowed to remain, effectively frozen in time. Today, their combined population is just 44. Each family owns its own mobile home, but pays Disney $75 per month in lot rent.

The towns, known as Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, are hidden in plain sight—not marked on any public guide map, and located on property that is technically backstage. Residents do get one major benefit, though. They have access to a gated, private fireworks viewing spot on the shores of Bay Lake.

Much less secret are the other places where Disney cast members can live—the apartment complexes used for the Disney College Program and the Disney International Program. Each year, thousands of college students and international cultural representatives head to Walt Disney World to spend a few months to a year Living, Learning, and Earning. They work front-line jobs around the complex, take classes if desired, and live in apartments that hold two to eight people. It’s a great way for students to develop independence, learn to get along with a diverse group of roommates and coworkers, and gain job experience from a highly renowned employer.
 

I happened to inquire with RCID if I could live there and how to go about applying. I was sent a very quick "Sorry, there are no vacancies at this time".
 
Much less secret are the other places where Disney cast members can live—the apartment complexes used for the Disney College Program and the Disney International Program. Each year, thousands of college students and international cultural representatives head to Walt Disney World to spend a few months to a year Living, Learning, and Earning. They work front-line jobs around the complex, take classes if desired, and live in apartments that hold two to eight people. It’s a great way for students to develop independence, learn to get along with a diverse group of roommates and coworkers, and gain job experience from a highly renowned employer.

The ironic part is that the apartment complexes for Disney College Program are not even located within the RCID and are run by third party housing companies that Disney contracted to operate the complexes. One would think that Disney would have taken advantage of integrating these facilities onto their property within RCID limits.

It appears that Disney has always been incredibly secretive and selective about who they allow to live on property and how the process and properties are managed. The fact that they did not even consider housing the College Program CMs on-property further proves this point.
 
The ironic part is that the apartment complexes for Disney College Program are not even located within the RCID and are run by third party housing companies that Disney contracted to operate the complexes. One would think that Disney would have taken advantage of integrating these facilities onto their property within RCID limits.

It appears that Disney has always been incredibly secretive and selective about who they allow to live on property and how the process and properties are managed. The fact that they did not even consider housing the College Program CMs on-property further proves this point.

There may be some legal/tax considerations at play regarding the CP ...just a thought.
 
There may be some legal/tax considerations at play regarding the CP ...just a thought.

I can see that, especially considering that CPs unfortunately are not always the most loyal CMs since it is a temporary job/internship, I can see how this could be a liability.. I recall during my time as a WDWCM, while there were many CPs that were extremely loyal and high performing CMs, there were also bad apples who were terminated from the program for various reasons.
 
The ironic part is that the apartment complexes for Disney College Program are not even located within the RCID and are run by third party housing companies that Disney contracted to operate the complexes. One would think that Disney would have taken advantage of integrating these facilities onto their property within RCID limits.

It appears that Disney has always been incredibly secretive and selective about who they allow to live on property and how the process and properties are managed. The fact that they did not even consider housing the College Program CMs on-property further proves this point.

Does anyone have a list of the names of these College Program residences and their locations? I've wondered where they are all located. I'm interested to see how far away they are from WDW.
 
The ironic part is that the apartment complexes for Disney College Program are not even located within the RCID and are run by third party housing companies that Disney contracted to operate the complexes. One would think that Disney would have taken advantage of integrating these facilities onto their property within RCID limits.
The problem becomes that these people would then be eligible to a vote in RCID community matters. That might get in the way of future expansion plans.
 
Does anyone have a list of the names of these College Program residences and their locations? I've wondered where they are all located. I'm interested to see how far away they are from WDW.

The housing complexes used for the CP are Vista Way, Chatham Square, Patterson Court, and The Commons. With the exception of Vista Way, they're all in a cluster located near the Mary Queen of the Universe Shrine and the Vineland Premium Outlets. Vista Way is a bit closer closer to Disney Springs.
 
Does anyone have a list of the names of these College Program residences and their locations? I've wondered where they are all located. I'm interested to see how far away they are from WDW.

Here are some map links to the exact locations of each complex:

Vista Way - https://www.google.com/maps/place/V...2!3m1!1s0x88dd802fa15cf791:0xe246a176231a8fa1
Chatham Square - https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...m2!3m1!1s0x88dd8040b8b1228d:0x280a25e46554bcc
Patterson Court - https://www.google.com/maps/place/P...59,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xe44d6e863cff97ff
The Commons - https://www.google.com/maps/place/T...2!3m1!1s0x88dd803ff0153e9f:0x7ba78e579090b192

Vista Way is the oldest and largest complex, the later three are all located in the same general area known as "Little Lake Bryan" and are newer..
 
This was an interesting part of an already interesting Episode. Craig was also right about the STOL runway. Check out Adam the Woo and he shows you how to get there, (without breaking any laws)
 
I noticed Mickey's Retreat just south of The Commons apartment complex. Is this a recreational area for College Program CMs who live in the four CP apartment locations?
 
I noticed Mickey's Retreat just south of The Commons apartment complex. Is this a recreational area for College Program CMs who live in the four CP apartment locations?

This is an outdoor recreation area for all CMs (including CMs not in the College Program), it is a company benefit for working at WDW :)
 
This is an outdoor recreation area for all CMs (including CMs not in the College Program), it is a company benefit for working at WDW :)
It's cute - I actually got to visit there on a backstage tour years ago. And CM's certainly DESERVE some TLC!! :)
 
The problem becomes that these people would then be eligible to a vote in RCID community matters. That might get in the way of future expansion plans.
There's also the issue of public services. Those complexes are pretty big in the aggregate. If they were in the RCID, that would be a lot of electricity, water, sewers, roads and sewage to have to account for. Better off letting some other community deal with those issues. On site, those complexes would essentially amount to one or two more Value Resorts, but without any income to offset the cost of operation.
 














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