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i have no problem giving up my seat for anyone who needs one i stand at work for at least 5 hours with out sitting and i hate to see people who are in perfect condition to stand not give up their seats to young children and women or the elderly

And how do you know those people you are looking at are in perfect condition? To look at me you wouldn't know that there are days that if were to attempt to stand on a bus I would probably fall on you.

You can't possibly know who can or can't or shouldn't stand just by eye-balling a person.
 
We are fans of the Disney Buses. We don't like renting cars....we know that some times we will have to wait...and that ECVs get loaded first...we are just fine with that...and if we have to wait for another bus, so be it. Also, my DBF always gives up his seat to a woman, elderly or anyone else that needs it. He's just that way. When I've traveled with my DGD...she was on one of our laps so that someone else could have a seat.

I guess we've been lucky too....we've not seen much of the problems that others have


I love the buses too and have encountered mostly very friendly people on them.
 
I used to give my seat up but during and after my 2007 trip I had issues with my knees and had to get some physical therapy but even that didn't work. My knees can give out on me whenever and I don't think its safe to be standing on a bus after walking all day.
I told my fiance to give up his seat before we even got to WDW. He is healthy and can stand on the way back to the resort. He did give it up the very first night of our trip to an elderly lady. He got no thank you and the rest of her family kept bumping, hitting and kicking my fiance. He didn't tell me that until we got back to the room. And I decided that after that he wasn't giving his seat up for anyone. He said that was fine with him.



Its OK with me if your fiance doesn't give up his seat, but do you think that one family's rudeness should change your values?
 
Hello Schmek, I was raised by southern gentlefolk. My guess is you sadly were not. Ni o I am not what you call"PC". I am a southern christian gentleman. And if it offends you that I use the term fairer sex then you need to use your obama sensitivities and get over it. As far as a well taught person I believe if you are able to offer your seat and you are too selfish then you are a product of a poor family with no morals.
 

Hello Schmek, I was raised by southern gentlefolk. My guess is you sadly were not. Ni o I am not what you call"PC". I am a southern christian gentleman. And if it offends you that I use the term fairer sex then you need to use your obama sensitivities and get over it. As far as a well taught person I believe if you are able to offer your seat and you are too selfish then you are a product of a poor family with no morals.

I have to say that the word "gentleman" is not what comes to mind when I read this post.:sad2: Judgemental yes, gentleman, no.
 
Well, since the actual age of Chivalry saw women being treated as being much beneath the worth of men, without the ability to hold property, you might not want to equate your sense of being polite to being chivalrous. I don't think it is uite pc to call females the 'fairer sex' either - makes them sound pale and frail, kwim?

I've also never heard a bus announcement that people are required to give up any seats besides the ones designated by signs for the physically disabled. If I have made the choice to wait for the next bus so I get a seat, I am not giving it up to those who poorly plan.

That's the great thing about the US - we are all equal!

Hello Schmek, I was raised by southern gentlefolk. My guess is you sadly were not. o I am not what you call"PC". I am a southern christian gentleman. And if it offends you that I use the term fairer sex then you need to use your obama sensitivities and get over it. As far as a well taught person that I am, I believe if you are able to offer your seat and you are too selfish then you are a product of a poor family with no morals. If you equate my use of an earlier venacular as offensive then you are quite welcome to kiss my posterior.
 
To each, his own, but I always offer my seat to children, ladies, elderly, and men holding children. My wife will, usually, sit with my 2 kids, and I will stand with the stroller. I feel like I can, even though I am not a cast member, bring a little magic to someone's evening by being considerate and being a little inconvenienced to provide comfort to another.

It is what I hope someone would do for my wife. (And many people have)

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Nevermind... not worth my time nor my energy. Shouldn't let people get me upset over these sorts of things.
 
I don't need to. Any gentleman worth the name wouldn't go around posting insults on a Disney message board. And your continued posts only prove that.

From Merriam-Webster...
Definition of GENTLEMAN
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a : a man of noble or gentle birth b : a man belonging to the landed gentry c (1) : a man who combines gentle birth or rank with chivalrous qualities (2) : a man whose conduct conforms to a high standard of propriety or correct behavior d (1) : a man of independent means who does not engage in any occupation or profession for gain (2) : a man who does not engage in a menial occupation or in manual labor for gain
2
: valet —often used in the phrase gentleman's gentleman
3
: a man of any social class or condition —often used in a courteous reference <show this gentleman to a seat> or usually in the plural in address <ladies and gentlemen>

Don't see any part of the definition that covers the PP's posts. Do you?
 
This thread is worthless without pics. I said it once and I will say it again -- I have never witnessed children, elderly or handicapped go without a seat on a Disney bus ever. Everyone who wanted a seat had a seat, those who were able and preferred to stand -- stood.

There were many families just like ours with children and strollers who made the decision not to board a crowded bus expecting others to give up their seat(s), on vacation of all things.

It is my responsibility as a parent to ensure that my children have a seat. I will never feel comfortable with someone having to give up their seat for me on vacation when another bus is soon to arrive. I am not talking about the "real world" bus. This is in reference to the microcosm that is Disney.

The nicest and most friendliest people I have ever met at Disney have been right on these same buses. Every bus I have been on has been a pleasure.

If for whatever reason a neglectful parent opted to board a crowded standing only bus on vacation when another is on its way -- we would give up our seats in a heartbeat. But I have yet to see this.

Every Disney bus that I have rode on, the people were kind and considerate and will wait for another bus. If they are selfish and willfully board a crowded or near crowded bus expecting my seat -- they can have it -- but trust me it says more about them than me.

Most families care about the well being of the children and will not intentionally place them in a compromising situation where they are solely "dependent" upon a strangers generosity. :)

IMHO, most people without children are independent and don't wish to place themselves at another strangers mercy, when they have the option to wait for another bus. This option is much more empowering.

Honestly, most people at Disney do this -- at least on my buses. :)
 
you should probably check the definition in an ENGLISH dictionary.

I am a Southern Belle and I prefer that over "fairer sex", thanks :lmao: It does in fact sound offensive and I've lived in the SOUTH my whole life and I am also a christian. I also was raised by a very SOUTHERN family and teach good family morals. (In fact, no one in my WHOLE family has ever been divorced...so beat THAT!) Many other women would find this offensive too, fyi.

To the person *battling* it out with him:
1. He obviously doesn't know how to read or he would know the definition of a gentlemen and judgemental so,
2. It isn't worth your time to argue with him. There is all sorts of life (low-lifes too) on these boards. It is best to just let it go.
You both can get points for arguing...It's not worth your time. ;)
 
I tend to choose to wait for the next bus rather than get on on where i have to stand... not for laziness reasons, but for the simple fact that im a clutz and being on a moving vehicle where there is a risk of me falling onto said women, elderly, small children etc.... its just better to wait :rotfl:
 
This thread is worthless without pics. I said it once and I will say it again -- I have never witnessed children, elderly or handicapped go without a seat on a Disney bus ever. Everyone who wanted a seat had a seat, those who were able and preferred to stand -- stood.

There were many families just like ours with children and strollers who made the decision not to board a crowded bus expecting others to give up their seat(s), on vacation of all things.

It is my responsibility as a parent to ensure that my children have a seat. I will never feel comfortable with someone having to give up their seat for me on vacation when another bus is soon to arrive. I am not talking about the "real world" bus. This is in reference to the microcosm that is Disney.

The nicest and most friendliest people I have ever met at Disney have been right on these same buses. Every bus I have been on has been a pleasure.

If for whatever reason a neglectful parent opted to board a crowded standing only bus on vacation when another is on its way -- we would give up our seats in a heartbeat. But I have yet to see this.

Every Disney bus that I have rode on, the people were kind and considerate and will wait for another bus. If they are selfish and willfully board a crowded or near crowded bus expecting my seat -- they can have it -- but trust me it says more about them than me.

Most families care about the well being of the children and will not intentionally place them in a compromising situation where they are solely "dependent" upon a strangers generosity. :)

IMHO, most people without children are independent and don't wish to place themselves at another strangers mercy, when they have the option to wait for another bus. This option is much more empowering.

Honestly, most people at Disney do this -- at least on my buses. :)

I know I should just back away, but I did want to point out that we've witnessed many parents with small children hold their kids because no one gave up their seat. It's even happened to us back when we were Disney Newbies and didn't know any better about getting onto a bus late at night. After it happened once, we waited for the next bus at night for the rest of that trip and after that trip, rented a car from that point forward until the kids were older. We tried again to ride the buses and witnessed the same rude behavior and are now back to being just car people.

As far as waiting for the next bus. This works well at night when the buses come fairly quickly. It doesn't work well in the morning at the All-Star Music. For us, the bus was already partially full from the All-Star Sports. All seats were taken. Thus, if we wanted a seat we had to wait for three or four buses probably. And the buses only came every 15 to 20 minutes. Another reason we only rent a car from now on.

I'm glad you had great experiences, but we have not. I am also surprised you want visual proof. I never thought to squeeze out my camera and try to snap a picture on a crowded bus just so the doubting Thomas's on the DISboards could have their proof that it actually happens. :confused3

We found the Disney buses to be FAR from pleasurable. My kids were begging me to rent a car by the end of the trip. My wife and I agreed that we will always budget for a rental car from now on. We just found the buses to be quite frustrating and when you add the crowding and rude behavior to the mix, it just made it worse for us. YMMV
 
This thread is worthless without pics. I said it once and I will say it again -- I have never witnessed children, elderly or handicapped go without a seat on a Disney bus ever. Everyone who wanted a seat had a seat, those who were able and preferred to stand -- stood.

There were many families just like ours with children and strollers who made the decision not to board a crowded bus expecting others to give up their seat(s), on vacation of all things.

It is my responsibility as a parent to ensure that my children have a seat. I will never feel comfortable with someone having to give up their seat for me on vacation when another bus is soon to arrive. I am not talking about the "real world" bus. This is in reference to the microcosm that is Disney.

The nicest and most friendliest people I have ever met at Disney have been right on these same buses. Every bus I have been on has been a pleasure.

If for whatever reason a neglectful parent opted to board a crowded standing only bus on vacation when another is on its way -- we would give up our seats in a heartbeat. But I have yet to see this.

Every Disney bus that I have rode on, the people were kind and considerate and will wait for another bus. If they are selfish and willfully board a crowded or near crowded bus expecting my seat -- they can have it -- but trust me it says more about them than me.

Most families care about the well being of the children and will not intentionally place them in a compromising situation where they are solely "dependent" upon a strangers generosity. :)

IMHO, most people without children are independent and don't wish to place themselves at another strangers mercy, when they have the option to wait for another bus. This option is much more empowering.

Honestly, most people at Disney do this -- at least on my buses. :)



Those "neglectful" parents you're judging may just be tired with tired children. And desperate to get into a bed. Most families that care about the well being of their children might just be anxious to get them to bed. Most of them are not evilly planning to force someone to give up their seat. Many of them are here for their first time and they haven't had time to overthink this the way we all do :goodvibes.

I do agree with you that the Disney buses are mostly friendly places. I have observed grouchiness at park closing, but for the most part, people have been friendly and kind. I have witnessed some people letting toddlers or older people stand, but not all the time.
 
We rarely get on a crowded bus, we choose to wait the extra time in order to have a seat. In really crowded times, we've passed on two buses so that on the third we would have a seat.

I believe that if you get on the crowded bus then you are expecting to stand. Posts (not just this thread, because this topic comes up often) that suggest people are rude for not giving up their seat is unfair. No one knows how long the others on the bus have waited to get their seat on the bus. In life we make choices, if your choice is to have a seat, then wait for the next bus.
 
Those "neglectful" parents you're judging may just be tired with tired children. And desperate to get into a bed. Most families that care about the well being of their children might just be anxious to get them to bed. Most of them are not evilly planning to force someone to give up their seat. Many of them are here for their first time and they haven't had time to overthink this the way we all do :goodvibes.
Or they just realize that standing on a bus isn't the life or death risk that some make it out to be ;).

As for me, 99% of the time, I'll give up my seat. No, not just to elderly or otherwise infirmed, just to anyone (and everyone) else. If I have a seat and don't feel that I can stand, then I'll stay seated, but that's rarely happened. (Moreso has the case happened where I offer a seat and it's not taken, so I just sit back down).

I also don't care if others get up and offer seats or not, even when I'm tired and happen to do so. It's not my business and doesn't affect me. I'll feel empathy for those standing who obviously have need to sit, but that's about the extent of it. I don't go on vacation to worry about other people's BS.

However, if someone comes in and demands a seat, acting all entitled, and I'm still sitting, then I'll remain there. I'm just spiteful like that.

Hello Schmek, I was raised by southern gentlefolk. My guess is you sadly were not. o I am not what you call"PC". I am a southern christian gentleman. And if it offends you that I use the term fairer sex then you need to use your obama sensitivities and get over it. As far as a well taught person that I am, I believe if you are able to offer your seat and you are too selfish then you are a product of a poor family with no morals. If you equate my use of an earlier venacular as offensive then you are quite welcome to kiss my posterior.
Lawl @ this. Just overall in general. Really nothing I can say without getting black marks :p.

I'll just chuckle at the irony of the bolded portion.
 
We rarely get on a crowded bus, we choose to wait the extra time in order to have a seat. In really crowded times, we've passed on two buses so that on the third we would have a seat.

I believe that if you get on the crowded bus then you are expecting to stand. Posts (not just this thread, because this topic comes up often) that suggest people are rude for not giving up their seat is unfair. No one knows how long the others on the bus have waited to get their seat on the bus. In life we make choices, if your choice is to have a seat, then wait for the next bus.



You're right. Personally, we do expect to stand if we get on a crowded bus. And there's no way I won't crowd onto that bus if at all possible. I'm extremely impressed that some of you will let a bus go by if its too crowded. You're made of tougher stuff than me :goodvibes. In fact, there's not much worse at Disney (barring hurricanes and health issues) than watching that bus go by and knowing you might be waiting a loooooong time for the next one ;).

But with all that, all of us except my youngest will give up our seat if we someone needier than us.
 
Or they just realize that standing on a bus isn't the life or death risk that some make it out to be ;).

As for me, 99% of the time, I'll give up my seat. No, not just to elderly or otherwise infirmed, just to anyone (and everyone) else. If I have a seat and don't feel that I can stand, then I'll stay seated, but that's rarely happened. (Moreso has the case happened where I offer a seat and it's not taken, so I just sit back down).

I also don't care if others get up and offer seats or not, even when I'm tired and happen to do so. It's not my business and doesn't affect me. I'll feel empathy for those standing who obviously have need to sit, but that's about the extent of it. I don't go on vacation to worry about other people's BS.

However, if someone comes in and demands a seat, acting all entitled, and I'm still sitting, then I'll remain there. I'm just spiteful like that.


Lawl @ this. Just overall in general. Really nothing I can say without getting black marks :p.

I'll just chuckle at the irony of the bolded portion.



:rotfl: You're right, come to think of it. Its not really so bad to stand on a bus. Although I have seen kids fall on them. Still, nothing is as life or death as these same old issues we love to discuss on the DIS :goodvibes.

And I'm also with you that I don't worry about whether or not other people are getting up to offer seats (or using old mugs, etc.).
 
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