The Apprentice-- episode 2

[Robinrs]

Did anyone see this one? I just saw the Today Show interview with the guy who was FIRED and they speculated that the only reason they're keeping that nimwit Sam is to see how much damage he can do... ????

I'm really not too surprised that Jason got the boot. His leadership skills were proven when he did not go to meet with the clients... what was on his mind???? I'm sure he's sorry today!!

 

[The LK 4]

I just saw that interview too. I'm surprised the women's ad campaign won. I thought the men did a pretty good job. I can't believe Sam is still in the running. It will be interesting next week when he is in charge.

 

[Kteacher]

I completely agree that that the producers of the show are keeping Sam on because people tune in to see what damage he's going to do! BTW, did you see the take off on the Apprentice that SNL did last weekend? They were right on the money ( no pun intended )

 

[charabby]

I think Jason should have been fired in this case. He made a *huge* error not meeting with the client and never really accepted responsibility for the error. He continually blamed Sam despite the fact that according to Jason, Sam was given inconsequential, unimportant jobs. If Sam's jobs were so unimportant, how could it be mainly Sam's fault that their ad campaign was not chosen? I also think they should have tapped into Sam's creativity since he certainly likes to aim high - instead they had him do busy work.

Personally, I thought their ad campaign was boring and targeted to men only. The only times women were featured in the campaign were as the flight attendant and as a wife of the traveler. As a woman, that campaign didn't speak to me at all and there are certainly many female business travelers I would think the airline would want to attract. This ad would do nothing for them.

 

[KrnB]

I didn't watch the first episode, but I might have to start watching now after seeing last night's.

The men's campaign was good, but it was very "inside" the box, something that the ad exec warned them about. Their presentation of it wasn't all that impressive either - the women were much more polished.

I really can't stand Sam - what a whiner! And that Ormosa (or whatever her name is) chick is awful too.

I think Trump kept Sam on a little longer to see if he'll turn around and do something brilliant - he mentioned something along those lines twice. Otherwise, there's no way he's going to win. He'll be gone eventually.

 

[TerriP]

What is up with the women?? They appear to think that their bodies are all they have to offer. I laughed out loud when the gentleman said they set back the Women's Movement...He's Right! I was disappointed in the lack of creativity and ingenuity.
I sincerely hope next week's leader uses her brain instead of her boobs to get the win!

 

[WebmasterMaryJo]

<font color=navy>I missed part of the show last night - when they presented their campaigns - ugh - I wanted to see that.

Although I was sorry to see Jason go, he did make a huge mistake in not meeting with the client, despite his team urging that they needed to do that. He didn't listen to them.

I also agree that it's going to get tougher for Trump to pick the people who need to be fired.

I'm another one who hopes that the women come up with something other than sex sells next week.

 

[Jeafl]

I agree with charabby. Jason made a critical error in not speaking to the client. However, I am positive that they are keeping Sam on for comic relief. Trump and his two henchmen (henchpeople? lol) are usually laughing at him too.

It sure seems that Omorosa has a chip on her shoulder. The other women are at least trying to get along with each other, but she is negative about everything. I did not take the other girl's comment about the "pot calling the kettle black" as a racist comment at all. It is actually a very well known saying and it was appropos of what was going on at the time. I sure hope Omorosa gets with the program, because she appears to be a very strong, educated, intelligent woman. She could do very well if she doesn't continue to alienate the opther women.

 

[IloveDMB]

I though it was funny when Jason said "We don't have time to meet with the client"

Is that how he plans on running the business? With no client contact? Yeah, that business will be successful.

Overall, another good episode. I am addicted to the show but it's moving to Wednesdays next week. Already watch Smallville and the O.C. What a conflict!

 

[meeshi]

I also think the women did a great job with their presentation, though I wish they would use their brains as opposed to their bodies. This is the second week and both times they used sex to sell, that bothers me. Last week I thought Omorosa was a mature, professional woman, but when she whipped out the race card I was in shock and she lost all credibility. I wouldn't be too disappointed to see her go. She doesn't seem to be able to get along very well with the other women, next week's previews showed her in an argument with someone else.

I totally believe Sam is being kept there for ratings. As much as I can't stand the guy and would LOVE to see him fired, he's so incredibly annoying that it makes things interesting.

I was sorry to see Jason go, but he did drop the ball and made a HUGE mistake.

 

[Kirby]

I didn't see last weeks show. This is an interesting twist on reality shows. I knew the minute that Jason said that they didn't have time to meet with the client he was making the wrong decision.

I, too, thought the guys ads better but it would have been nice to have done a second one to go along with it for the female side.

I didn't like the girl's ads at all but they did have the attention grabbing value that the client apparently wanted.

 

[Keggy]

I didn't see the Today Show this morning, but that is a darn good point. He is providing a difference. We iwll tune in to see when he gets kicked off!

I personally disliked the women's ad campaign, but it was what they wanted. Something out of the box. I also agree they are setting the women't movement back - way back!
I liked the men's campaign better, personally.

Kelly

 

[PamOKW]

I was extremely disappointed in the men's campaign. I guess none of them have a background in advertising or marketing? Their ad was almost identical to the car service ad put together by our local cable station! The only difference was they were selling the jet, not the car. I also didn't get using a town car, at least upgrade it to a limo. There was nothing that said "high power" or "luxury" in the visual except for the jet.

Deutch was not that happy with the actual campaign the women put together (citing putting the women's movement back) but it showed some thinking was going on. The men were just too methodical and boring. If they had shown any creativity at all I think they might have beaten the women. They need to start getting their act together. If they are the "best and the brightest", we could be in trouble.

 

[Gette88]

Originally posted by meeshi
I also think the women did a great job with their presentation, though I wish they would use their brains as opposed to their bodies. This is the second week and both times they used sex to sell, that bothers me. Last week I thought Omorosa was a mature, professional woman, but when she whipped out the race card I was in shock and she lost all credibility. I wouldn't be too disappointed to see her go. She doesn't seem to be able to get along very well with the other women, next week's previews showed her in an argument with someone else.

I totally believe Sam is being kept there for ratings. As much as I can't stand the guy and would LOVE to see him fired, he's so incredibly annoying that it makes things interesting.

I was sorry to see Jason go, but he did drop the ball and made a HUGE mistake.

I agree with everything you said.

 

[Robinrs]

I have to agree, Omorosa cut off her nose to spite her face last night. She has a chip on her shoulder as BIG as a building but I do understand where it comes from, though a few more years under her belt she'll learn how to react better. I've seen alot of that in my business, maturity has a way to grow wisdom.

I think the men's ad campaign was good but bland. The girls.. ... was a logistic nightmare but what Donny wanted. BTW on the Today show he said it would NEVER fly in real life... DUH!!!! The whole campaign was highly crude! But, by gum, it WORKED! I guess in the macho world of Donald and Donny, sex will sell everytime. In the real world when the main spender of the household is a woman 25-45, this ad would go down in FLAMES.

I'm with Mary Jo and TerriP HOPEFULLY the ladies will use something besides sex to prove they can be the head of a company. It does take a BIT more than that!

 

[Margie J]

I love this show. It's proving, week by week, that business takes more than just book knowledge. It takes brains plus innovation, luck, timing, tact, good team work, being prepared, street smarts, communication and so much more.

Jason - The combination of not talking to the client AND not taking responsibility for his teams' failure, regardless of who made mistakes, brought him down. He also couldn't find a good reason why he was suggesting the other team member for firing.

Sam and Omorosa - I think they are both being kept for shock value. They add spice each week with their actions and comments. Both might be great if they settle down but that may not happen in a few weeks.

Ad Campaigns - I agree with a previous comment that the men's campaign was boring and aimed at other men. It looked very 60's-like to me. The wife was home, not seen, while her husband was off on business (wearing a boring suit no less). It didn't look powerful and interesting. As for the women's team, I suspect they were selected more for their creativity than the ad campaign itself. If the client were to suggest a theme to them they would be likely to come up with an appropriate and eye catching ad campaign quickly. The one they had was offensive to me BUT unique. I agree with Robinrs, this ad campaign would go down in flames (doubly bad for an airline). It was also appealing to the male executives, again. What woman executive would be impressed by that ad campaign?

 

[preshi]

In US Weekly or FHM or some magazine I was reading Donald said to watch Omarosa and Sam. How could you not watch them? They are constantly stirring things up!

And while the ad campaign was crude it was defintely outside the box which is what Mr. Deutch wanted to see. The mens ad's were classy but boring and overdone. In fact my company just did a similar looking ad... borrring.

I'm totally hooked. I can't wait to see what happens next week!

 

[CBRorBust]

Omrosa

Maybe I'm just not seeing it the way everyone else is seeing her. But I think that she is not that crazy about the stuff she gets mad about. If I was living in a house of women who were supposedly the "best of the best" and had worked just as hard as I did to get to that place in my career just to have them shakin' their you know what's to get the job done I'd be mean too!

I don't know. I just think that some of those women are being way to immature and need to focus and realize it's not a slumber party that they are there to get a job done. I think that is Omrosa's only problem. She is there to do the job not to make friends! Remember...

It's not personal, It's business!

 

[preshi]

Originally posted by CBRorBust
Omrosa

Maybe I'm just not seeing it the way everyone else is seeing her. But I think that she is not that crazy about the stuff she gets mad about. If I was living in a house of women who were supposedly the "best of the best" and had worked just as hard as I did to get to that place in my career just to have them shakin' their you know what's to get the job done I'd be mean too!

I don't know. I just think that some of those women are being way to immature and need to focus and realize it's not a slumber party that they are there to get a job done. I think that is Omrosa's only problem. She is there to do the job not to make friends! Remember...

It's not personal, It's business!

I agree to a point. Last night when Ereka was talking and Omarosa interrupted her and Ereka said "Willy ou please let me talk" Omarosa said "Wow do you see how you snap at me?" Ummm what??? She seems like an antagonizer to me. I orignally liked her but now I think I'm glad I'm not there cause we'd be having words too lol

 

[SeaShelley]

I am really enjoying this show. As far as Omrosa is concerned, if she's really concerned about sex not being a main selling point then she should really keep the belly shirts in her suitcase. Last night's episode showed her during her commentary wearing jeans and a red wrap around shirt exposing her entire mid-section. I believe last week they showed her around the house in a pair of sweats an another shirt which showed off her belly. Granted she has a great body, but for what this show is all about it really didn't play too well with me. This point applies to all the women too.