Texas and dictatorship

[LakeAriel]

The Texas Governor has bypassed the legislature to REQUIRE pre teen girls to get the new vaccine..Though promising, this vaccine is new and God knows what the side effects may be. Turns out he is connected to Merck the manufacturer. This is a disgrace!


Perry has ties to Merck and Women in Government. One of the drug company's three lobbyists in Texas is Mike Toomey, Perry's former chief of staff. His current chief of staff's mother-in-law, Texas Republican state Rep. Dianne White Delisi, is a state director for Women in Government.

The governor also received $6,000 from Merck's political action committee during his re-election campaign.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/article...s/20070202172109990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

 

[Charade]

Dictatorship???

That's a good one!!!

 

[TheOtherVillainess]

Honestly, I don't see how this is any different than requiring girls to get vaccinated for other diseases (measles/mumps/rubella, chicken pox, etc).

TOV

 

[KristaTX]

 

[Free4Life11]

If the state wants to pay for it, fine. I assume they are footing the bill, right?

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

Honestly, I don't see how this is any different than requiring girls to get vaccinated for other diseases (measles/mumps/rubella, chicken pox, etc).

TOV

That's what I was thinking. If it prevents cervical cancer I don't see the harm. And they are recommending this vaccine to a LOT of women. I somehow doubt they would risk getting sued out the butt if there were any really horrible side effects.

So I'm kinda of too.

 

[DVCLiz]

My thread about this should be on the first or second page. We are having a much less "alarmist" discussion about all the issues. Come join us!!!!

 

[LakeAriel]

Children are required to have other vaccines (many which have caused complications) to stop the spread of contagious, potentially fatal disease. This is for something that is not contagious, but sexually transmitted and the virus it may surpress is not fatal. Big difference.

 

[lsyorke]

Honestly, I don't see how this is any different than requiring girls to get vaccinated for other diseases (measles/mumps/rubella, chicken pox, etc).

TOV

This is not a casual contact disease. This is a sexually transmitted disease. This vaccine is brand new and even pediatricians have come out and said that this needs to be started slowly, due to possible adverse effects that didn't show in clinical trials.

Vaccines are just like any other drug..they can have serious side effects and serious adverse effects. The Lyme disease vaccine was pulled off the market in 2002 after an increase in arthritis caused by the vaccine. I would not let any child of mine take any vaccine that had not been on the market and long term tested for problems.

 

[Charade]

If we would just nationalize all pharmaceutical companies and research, we would eliminate the apparent greediness of companies who sell drugs that cure people.

But why stop there? How about Big Oil? Or Big Retail? Or Big Burger?

 

[LakeAriel]

My thread about this should be on the first or second page. We are having a much less "alarmist" discussion about all the issues. Come join us!!!!

Yes and I noticed at the same I was posted this someone else was exposing this Governor's connection to the pharmaceutical company.

 

[Charade]

Children are required to have other vaccines (many which have caused complications) to stop the spread of contagious, potentially fatal disease. This is for something that is not contagious, but sexually transmitted and the virus it may suppress is not fatal. Big difference.

No, it's not a big difference. The virus can cause cervical cancer. The virus is contagious via sexual contact. Stop the virus, stop the cancer (in a lot of cases).

 

[LakeAriel]

This is not a casual contact disease. This is a sexually transmitted disease. This vaccine is brand new and even pediatricians have come out and said that this needs to be started slowly, due to possible adverse effects that didn't show in clinical trials.

Vaccines are just like any other drug..they can have serious side effects and serious adverse effects. The Lyme disease vaccine was pulled off the market in 2002 after an increase in arthritis caused by the vaccine. I would not let any child of mine take any vaccine that had not been on the market and long term tested for problems.

Exactly, and let's not forget the older pertussis vaccine removed after being linked to SID's or the mercury in some vaccines being linked to autism. Parents, give it some serious thought. There is no reason to rush out and get your 9 year old vaccinated. Unless of course she is sexually active, which I highly doubt.

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

and the virus it may surpress is not fatal. Big difference.

HPV causes cervical cancer. In my book, any kind of cancer that can be prevented is a good thing. And eventually, most girls are going to have sex which is how it is transmitted. Even if they are with one partner their entire life, they could still get it from that one guy. The virus can remain dormant for a long time until it makes itself known. So why not get the vaccine to prevent that?

 

[Beca]

Well, it will be just another vaccine that we opt out of.

 

[LakeAriel]

No, it's not a big difference. The virus can cause cervical cancer. The virus is contagious via sexual contact. Stop the virus, stop the cancer (in a lot of cases).

and fourth graders are having orgies in the classroom? Please...They will not catch it in the classroom, they should not need it to attend school.

 

[DawnCt1]

Then there must be 18 other "dictatorships" because legislation is pending in 18 other states. Hepititis vaccine is required in most states, are those dictatorships too?

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

and fourth graders are having orgies in the classroom? Please...They will not catch it in the classroom, they should not need it to attend school.

Why not have them get the vaccine before sex is even a thought in their mind? It can save you a lot of grief, not to mention medical bills, later on down the line. I don't see the problem in being prepared. It's not a matter of fourth grade orgies.

 

[DVCLiz]

Yes and I noticed at the same I was posted this someone else was exposing this Governor's connection to the pharmaceutical company.

Actually, I quoted all of that information in one of my earlier posts, if you had read that far back. I didn't have the chance to link it (because I don't know how!) but I read it three times as I was posting, so I think I got all the pertinent information in it.

My question, though, is - so what? Why is it importnat that Merck made a campaign contribution, or that his former staffer was a lobbyist, or that the mother in law of his current staffer was a WIG executive? Why does that automatically signal graft and corruption? Couldn't it just as easily represent a lot of good people wanting to do a lot of good for a lot of girls? I don't think it would be in Merck's best interest to suppress a drug that had so much promise, and they've followed the same guidelines every other new drug has. Women in Government might very well be the most effective tool for moving women's issues like this into the spotlight, instead of a shady organization being bought off by the drug companies. And why wouldn't it be a really fortunate thing that the governor's staffer's MIL was connected with that organization and able to make the personal connection that got this in front of the governor?

I just think there is more than one way to interpret that, and if, like me, you believe this vaccine is a great thing for girls, then you don't necessarily see a conspiracy theory at work - you see a lot of girls being saved from a pretty horrible disease in their future.

 

[autumnbaby9]

Honestly, I don't see how this is any different than requiring girls to get vaccinated for other diseases (measles/mumps/rubella, chicken pox, etc).

TOV

People are allowed to opt out of these vaccinations. Is the state going to allow people to opt out of this one too?

I feel the risk of vaccinations is much less than the disease they prevent but in my opinion this is something for a parent to decide about their child. If they are allowed to opt out just like any other vaccination then I see nothing wrong with the state trying to protect the girls.