Teen Mom Series Finale

Maci did not act in the best interest of her son. She totally put him up to the whole thing. Then she lied about it.

How about Amber claiming that she can't afford $400 for preschool. That looked like a really nice car to me. And that house that she wanted to rent was huge. Maybe if you cut some of that out, along with the expense of those eyelashes, then you will have money for your daughter.

I did feel bad when Leah said she needed her mom. Poor baby. :sad1:
 
Yea when Amber was saying she couldn't afford Leah' s pre school I thought the same thing. You don't have to have a house like that get a starter home, etc.
 
How about maci once again cutting back on her classes. she either reduces her schoolload-as she says to take care of bentley-um..kyle doesnt work- or drops out altogether...get a life already.

sophia is the cutest thing ever but unfortunetely will probably need psychiatric help in the future either due to farah or her farahs mom.

catlyn/tyler - still cant stand them. get over carly already.she is now brandon and teresa's child - let them get on with their lives and raise a child that is normal.

amber-not much to say..shes just a mess. gary made me so uncomfortable looking at him..he cant go 2 steps without difficult breathing.
 
Maci did not act in the best interest of her son. She totally put him up to the whole thing. Then she lied about it.

How about Amber claiming that she can't afford $400 for preschool. That looked like a really nice car to me. And that house that she wanted to rent was huge. Maybe if you cut some of that out, along with the expense of those eyelashes, then you will have money for your daughter.

I did feel bad when Leah said she needed her mom. Poor baby. :sad1:
Amber has some mixed up priorities. That is why she can afford some of the stuff she has but can't afford other things. She needs to figure out what is important (hint: it isn't drugs or alcohol, nor is is expensive cars or huge houses) and spend her money accordingly.

It was indeed Kim, Tyler's mom, who called Brandon and Theresa the last time and freaked them out.

Kim needs to get some therapy. She seems very nice and reasonable but she needs a grip - when April has a better hold on a situation than you do, there's a problem. Carly's not your granddaughter, you're not going to be close to her or her parents. Move on.

Yes, Sophia hauled off and smacked Farrah right across the face - and I laaaauuughed. That kid is Farrah 2.0 and it's richly deserved.

Maci is a hosebeast of epic proportions. What a horror show, using Bentley to set up that entire thing to attempt to make Ryan look bad? Get. A. Job.

She's so awful. She really, really, needs to do ANYTHING with her life besides sit around on her orange butt dreaming up drama to involve Ryan in her life and make him look bad to his son, because that is going to backfire quick.

I don't blame Ryan for that, he was on the spot, I'm sure he could hear Maci telling Bentley what to say, and he said he'd "do what he could" or whatever. I get the feeling if he'd said no it'd have been *whisper* 'ask him why not, what else does he have to do that's more important than you?'

Please, Ryan, go to court and get a 50/50 custody order locked down, at least.

Amber is an unbelievable mess. The thing that bothered me was that Gary lets her drive that child around in that state? She's high as a kite, all the time and you let her drive your kid? No.

At least she's in prison now. Maybe Leah has a shot. I doubt it but you never know.
The Maci/Ryan thing really irritated me. They had agreed to have separate parties. Then, the day before Maci's party, she asks Bentley if he wants to invite Ryan to the party. Of course, she lies and says it was Bentley's idea, but whatever. Then, Ryan says, "I'll see what I can do" which CLEARLY translates to, "Absolutely, buddy, I will be at your party!" Maci was out of line this week.



And I'm really not sure if Catelynn and Tyler, or their families, have any clue how adoption works. See, here's the thing. Carly is not your daughter or granddaughter. Her mommy is Theresa. Her daddy is Brandon. Theresa's parents are her maternal grandparents. Brandon's parents are her paternal grandparents. This is not like joint custody where Carly now has two different sets of families. She is Brandon and Theresa's. Period. I don't blame Brandon and Theresa for not wanting anyone related to Catelynn and Tyler to just be able to call up Carly. I wouldn't put it past Butch and April to just decide to go take Carly because they feel entitled and believe that they are her grandparents. Anyone else betting that the adoption gets closed pretty soon?
 

Gary should put Leah in foster care and go on Biggest Loser. Amber's mom shouldn't have access to Leah; she's as messed up as Amber. There's no stability in that mess of a family.
 
Amber has some mixed up priorities. That is why she can afford some of the stuff she has but can't afford other things. She needs to figure out what is important (hint: it isn't drugs or alcohol, nor is is expensive cars or huge houses) and spend her money accordingly.


The Maci/Ryan thing really irritated me. They had agreed to have separate parties. Then, the day before Maci's party, she asks Bentley if he wants to invite Ryan to the party. Of course, she lies and says it was Bentley's idea, but whatever. Then, Ryan says, "I'll see what I can do" which CLEARLY translates to, "Absolutely, buddy, I will be at your party!" Maci was out of line this week.



And I'm really not sure if Catelynn and Tyler, or their families, have any clue how adoption works. See, here's the thing. Carly is not your daughter or granddaughter. Her mommy is Theresa. Her daddy is Brandon. Theresa's parents are her maternal grandparents. Brandon's parents are her paternal grandparents. This is not like joint custody where Carly now has two different sets of families. She is Brandon and Theresa's. Period. I don't blame Brandon and Theresa for not wanting anyone related to Catelynn and Tyler to just be able to call up Carly. I wouldn't put it past Butch and April to just decide to go take Carly because they feel entitled and believe that they are her grandparents. Anyone else betting that the adoption gets closed pretty soon?

To be fair to April (things you didn't think you'd type, Vol 22), when they were meeting with the adoption agency woman and Kim, and Kim was on about wanting to see Carly and be close to B&T, April said clearly that Carly wasn't theirs.

I don't think she has a problem with it. When asked if she had trouble dealing, she said the only problem she had was dealing with how she'd acted toward C&T before Carly was born and over signing the papers. She wanted to apologize to B&T for that mess (which resulted in the parking lot handover) for herself, she said, just because she felt guilty about it.

Butch is nuts, I agree, but it's not like he spends a lot of time outside prison, heh.

As for C&T, I think they're fine with it. If the producers weren't asking.... they were also involved with helping B&T adopt the son they did this year, so I think that whole deal looks more dramatic on tv than it likely is.

Still think Kim needs therapy tho.
 
To be fair to April (things you didn't think you'd type, Vol 22), when they were meeting with the adoption agency woman and Kim, and Kim was on about wanting to see Carly and be close to B&T, April said clearly that Carly wasn't theirs.

I don't think she has a problem with it. When asked if she had trouble dealing, she said the only problem she had was dealing with how she'd acted toward C&T before Carly was born and over signing the papers. She wanted to apologize to B&T for that mess (which resulted in the parking lot handover) for herself, she said, just because she felt guilty about it.

Butch is nuts, I agree, but it's not like he spends a lot of time outside prison, heh.

As for C&T, I think they're fine with it. If the producers weren't asking.... they were also involved with helping B&T adopt the son they did this year, so I think that whole deal looks more dramatic on tv than it likely is.

Still think Kim needs therapy tho.
I do wonder how much C&T would be talking about Carly if they weren't on Teen Mom and the producers weren't telling them to talk about the adoption. And, while April might be saying that Carly isn't there's now, she hasn't been saying that all along. Who knows what she would be saying if she was back on her drugs? Agreed that Kim needs therapy.
 
So is anyone watching the drama unfold on Jenelle's twitter? :confused3 I think the whole family is psycho. So according to Jenelle, her sister sold her out to Radar Online, and her mom said something about Jenelle having a porn tape, and there was a video of Jenelle's sister practically screaming at her poor baby. :furious: Yes, whole family is psycho. :rolleyes2
 
So is anyone watching the drama unfold on Jenelle's twitter? :confused3 I think the whole family is psycho. So according to Jenelle, her sister sold her out to Radar Online, and her mom said something about Jenelle having a porn tape, and there was a video of Jenelle's sister practically screaming at her poor baby. :furious: Yes, whole family is psycho. :rolleyes2

sadly, enough Janelle makes Amber look like the saint of motherhood
 
Oh my... they are all whack-a-do's!

I feel bad for C&T - without MTV they could go on with their lives and not re-hash Carley over and over. How will they ever move on?

Farrah - they way she talks to that baby makes me nuts! I think Farrah is a few french fries short of a happy meal.

Macy - she wants to be a family with Ryan but he is smart in staying away and not engaging her. She needs to get a job or something. Poor Kyle.

Amber - Gary is gross but more stable than Amber. Poor Leah having those 2 for parents though...that baby doesn't have a chance in hades to be raised right.
 
Oh my... they are all whack-a-do's!

I feel bad for C&T - without MTV they could go on with their lives and not re-hash Carley over and over. How will they ever move on?

Farrah - they way she talks to that baby makes me nuts! I think Farrah is a few french fries short of a happy meal.

Macy - she wants to be a family with Ryan but he is smart in staying away and not engaging her. She needs to get a job or something. Poor Kyle.

Amber - Gary is gross but more stable than Amber. Poor Leah having those 2 for parents though...that baby doesn't have a chance in hades to be raised right.

Why is Gary "gross" as you say? I think Gary a good dad
 
Ok, AMBER … OH MY LORD … she is just spiraling down down down. She has not had a thorough convo with ANYONE since this season started that did not turn into HER ALWAYS BEING RIGHT and screaming at them. YIKES. Her eyes are basically SHUT … must be from all the drugs she is taking.

AND not to be able to afford the $$ for Leah … its going to Amber's DRUG DEALER. ::yes:: Broke my heart when I saw Leah crying to want to be with Amber and yet Amber has chosen JAIL over that sweet baby doll. :mad:

FARRAH is in complete denial. She is nothing more than a complete spoiled brat and will find herself very much ALONE (w/Sophia) if she continues to act the way she does. I think Debra has calmed way down and tries hard to keep herself in check when she is around Farrah BUT WHO SHOULD HAVE TO DO THAT … adults should be able to have a conversation and agree to disagree without it turning into a screaming match. Farrah ALWAYS tries to turn it into a screaming match. Ugh.

C&T, I do NOT feel their parents should be a part of Carly's life. It is so dysfunctional and continues to be … Carly is now Teresa and Brandon's baby … their parents are now Carly's grandparents. ::yes::

MACI … OH BOTHER … Maci is a MESS … why why why does she continue to throw Bentley into these messes with Ryan. Sheesh. AND Ryan is NO prize LYING to Bently that he and Dallas would be at 'PUMP IT UP'. IDIOTS all of them. IDIOT PARENTS.

A couple of things … pictures of April's NICK … he is just a doll. Dallas has DYED her hair … when I first saw her on this past epi I thought Rayn had a NEW girlfriend. Sophia SLAPPING Farrah and Farrah HUGGING her … gag me. AND Bently, where were all HIS friends. That was the SADDEST party every at 'PUMP IT UP". No one his age to EVER play with. Oh and I did hear that officially yesterday Amber Portwood started her 5 year jail sentence. OMG.
 
sadly, enough Janelle makes Amber look like the saint of motherhood
Sad, isn't it? Amber is a bad mother, but at least she somewhat resembles one. Jenelle is much more of a drugged out big sister than a mother when it comes to Jace.
Why is Gary "gross" as you say? I think Gary a good day
I don't understand the Gary hate, either. I mean, the guy is overweight and could take better care of his body so that he lives a long, healthy life for his daughter, but other than that, oh and his horrible taste in women, he seems like the best option for Leah. He really seems to love and care for her, desires for her to have as stable of a home life as possible, wants her in preschool socializing with other children, and does what he can to remove her from the room when Amber is about to blow.
 
Ok, AMBER … OH MY LORD … she is just spiraling down down down. She has not had a thorough convo with ANYONE since this season started that did not turn into HER ALWAYS BEING RIGHT and screaming at them. YIKES. Her eyes are basically SHUT … must be from all the drugs she is taking.

AND not to be able to afford the $$ for Leah … its going to Amber's DRUG DEALER. ::yes:: Broke my heart when I saw Leah crying to want to be with Amber and yet Amber has chosen JAIL over that sweet baby doll. :mad:

FARRAH is in complete denial. She is nothing more than a complete spoiled brat and will find herself very much ALONE (w/Sophia) if she continues to act the way she does. I think Debra has calmed way down and tries hard to keep herself in check when she is around Farrah BUT WHO SHOULD HAVE TO DO THAT … adults should be able to have a conversation and agree to disagree without it turning into a screaming match. Farrah ALWAYS tries to turn it into a screaming match. Ugh.

C&T, I do NOT feel their parents should be a part of Carly's life. It is so dysfunctional and continues to be … Carly is now Teresa and Brandon's baby … their parents are now Carly's grandparents. ::yes::

MACI … OH BOTHER … Maci is a MESS … why why why does she continue to throw Bentley into these messes with Ryan. Sheesh. AND Ryan is NO prize LYING to Bently that he and Dallas would be at 'PUMP IT UP'. IDIOTS all of them. IDIOT PARENTS.

A couple of things … pictures of April's NICK … he is just a doll. Dallas has DYED her hair … when I first saw her on this past epi I thought Rayn had a NEW girlfriend. Sophia SLAPPING Farrah and Farrah HUGGING her … gag me. AND Bently, where were all HIS friends. That was the SADDEST party every at 'PUMP IT UP". No one his age to EVER play with. Oh and I did hear that officially yesterday Amber Portwood started her 5 year jail sentence. OMG.

Great points. I totally agree with all of them. :thumbsup2
 
Why is Gary "gross" as you say? I think Gary a good dad

I don't think Gary is gross, but he does do a lot of pot-stirring, IMO. Next to Amber he looks like a saint, but take a closer look. Much of the drama that happens between them is because Gary pushes Amber's buttons. He knows the way she reacts to things and he seems to quietly delight in causing her to go off. Watch him closely. He knows what he is doing. That said, Amber is most definitely responsible for her own actions.

I think that Gary truly loves Leah and wants what is best for her but I think Amber does too. Unfortunately Amber has so many issues of her own that she in unable to put Leah first. Hopefully she will find her way out of the dark place she is in. I think that both Gary and Amber are missing several chapters of Parenting 101 and I'm really sorry to say so, but I think Leah is going to end up just like them.
 
I'm glad to hear that. Shows Amber is growing up and thinking about Leah

No, it shows she's in prison for the next few years at least, heh.

My problem with Gary is that he wants to be with Amber, he lets Amber around Leah, he let Amber drive Leah around, etc. There was no need for any of that. She was, as we saw, perpetually high as a kite, she'd been in repeated trouble with the law, just don't expose your child to that mess.

Jenna - yes, I meant sober April. High April, all bets are off.

I think Janelle comes out on top in an Amber/Janelle badparent-off. Let's remember that Janelle, though she should have given up that baby or not had him in the first place, did realize fairly early on that she wasn't a parent and did actually sign him over to her mother.

Amber still goes on deludedly about how Leah wasn't living with her just because someone spray painted her house and how she's a great mom and etc.

Janelle is a lot of negative things but she's not a moron. Amber is a lot of negative things in addition to being a moron.
 
I feel bad for C&T - without MTV they could go on with their lives and not re-hash Carley over and over. How will they ever move on?

I agree with this. Hopefully the show ending will help with this somewhat.

Farrah - they way she talks to that baby makes me nuts! I think Farrah is a few french fries short of a happy meal.

I'm hoping that she only does that for the cameras. Your baby is not your diary! And was it just me, or did Farrah's baby talk sound a lot like Debra's in last night's episode?

Gary is gross but more stable than Amber.

If I were going to make a list of all of the "gross" dads to appear on 16 & Pregnant and Teen Mom, I don't think Gary would make the list. There are many attributes that are more objectionable than being overweight.
 
Anyone else read online that Tyler wants an acting career? He was supposedly shooting a movie this year. :sad2:

Macy setting up Bentley was awful. I love asking 2 year olds leading questions....My only comment on Ryan is that he is a 20 year old kid. It can't be easy dealing with her.

Leah is adorable and I think Gary is doing a better job this season of managing Amber. Yes he does push her buttons but he has been able to stop the conversation more often as well. His mom seems to be very involved, in a good way.

C&T-I love Dawn. She is the star of their story. I know it was edited but her scene with the two "grandmas" was great. She very nicely told both ladies that they need to back off.

Farrah - UGH! Sophia is adorable. However who schedules a very early morning flight? I felt bad for that poor baby having to be woken up in the middle of the night. And why would you brush her teeth?!
 












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