Teacher watching inappropriate stuff on laptop

[Coconut36]

oh and I'm in NJ the mother state of teacher's unions. But our school has fired tenured teachers before.
I think it's going to be a case of proving it. I am hoping they can run a check on the computer and see what he's watching.

I am wondering what their legal rights on regarding his personal laptop and how he was connecting to the internet (meaning could he have been piggy backing on an unsecured network near the school, using school wifi/network..etc) in regards to proving it.

How did this come about being reported? From a staff member? From students?

Obviously it is beyond wrong to do something like that in class..even outside of an educational setting/being a teacher people can and do get fired for viewing porn in the workplace (my previous employer would have immediately terminated for it). I can't see how even a union would have a leg to stand on in this situation.

 

[cornflake]

Also, not for nothing, and as in my previous post, people do watch actual porn in random environments but I'd definitely want to clarify whether he was, in fact, watching porn.

I've heard people refer to a lot of things as porn - Maxim, nude photos, there's soft porn which can border on just bad, vaguely erotic movies or bad series on cable networks, etc.

 

[cjdj4]

during class. This is in high school. And yes it's porn.
Today he was brought in for a "talk"
My daughter is in the class that he's been watching it in.

What do you think they are going to do to the teacher? Is this a fire type of offense? Is this a slap on the wrist? If your daughter was in his class how would you feel?

Personally I am angry that he is wasting time on such stuff during school hours. If he has so much free time perhaps they could find him so other projects to do. I also think he should not have access to his personal laptop during school hours. He also though was using a school computer as well.

What is wrong with people? Really who thinks hey I know how to kill some time while they are working on the lab I'll watch some porn.

Yes, this is an offense that will get you fired in my school district. HS or not, this is child endangerment for a variety or reasons: the porn itself, the fact that he could not possibly be monitoring his students and/ or their safety, the fact that it is illegal for children to view pornography, and there is really no way to be on a computer in a classroom filled with kids and not have at least one kids see what the teacher is doing. The fact they were working on a lab really concerns me. What type of lab? Is this science? Was there chemicals or fire involved? Never mind the fact there is ZERO learning going on for his students because kids WILL capitalize on the time the teacher is not paying attention to them and not do their work. Some will also do silly and sometimes dangerous things when the teacher is not looking.

Unfortunately, not every teacher has the judgement I think he/she needs to teach and be responsible for children. And those that hire them cannot figure out a way to tell the ones with good judgement from the ones who do not. It makes me sick

 

[disneydreamingdebby]

Teachers unions try to protect teachers to ensure fair treatment. They can't/ don't protect teachers who are participating in criminal activity. (If he was watching actual porn in front of children that would fall under some time of corruption of minors, I would think.)

Sometimes administration makes deals (I think a pp mentioned this). Either you resign or you are fired.

 

[Dses]

teachers! ah who need em lol

 

[Goofycampers]

Is anyone on here seriously going to defend this? Most companies include moral/ethical behavior codes that would call for termination if found watching porn on the job. But a teacher? Oh for pete's sake or course he should be fired! Talk about not having respect for your job, your students, your coworkers. With all of the out of work people these days give the creep's job to someone that wants/needs one.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Is anyone on here seriously going to defend this? Most companies include moral/ethical behavior codes that would call for termination if found watching porn on the job. But a teacher? Oh for pete's sake or course he should be fired! Talk about not having respect for your job, your students, your coworkers. With all of the out of work people these days give the creep's job to someone that wants/needs one.

Well said!

 

[OceanAnnie]

Is anyone on here seriously going to defend this? Most companies include moral/ethical behavior codes that would call for termination if found watching porn on the job. But a teacher? Oh for pete's sake or course he should be fired! Talk about not having respect for your job, your students, your coworkers. With all of the out of work people these days give the creep's job to someone that wants/needs one.

No kidding. Crazy stuff.

 

[richmond282]

Yup, that is definitely a fire-ab;e offense. At least around here it is. I don't understand how he was even aboe to watch porn at school unless it was on his phone or something. We have som many blocks on our school computers (even "guest" laptops, ipod touches, etc.) that you couldn't get to a porn site if you tried. Heck, I can't get to some legitimate sites I need for teaching. The website I needed to use to register my band students for a solo and ensemble event was blocked and classified as "gambling". lol!

 

[NYEmomma]

With all of the out of work people these days give the creep's job to someone that wants/needs one.

Well said!!

I'd kill to be able to find a teaching job like the one that he's so LUCKY to find and has totally screwed up by doing something so idiotic and... well, skeevy. Out of the group of 5 friends that I graduated college with, only one has found a job & she went out of state to find it.

Odds are that he connected to the internet through the school's wi-fi, even if he was using his personal laptop. I'd *think* they'd be able to track his history if that was the case (but don't quote me on that -- I'm not THAT tech savvy).

 

[IDoDis]

Most school districts block any type of adult sites from being seen on their server network. We can't access youtube anymore. I used to play some Disney kids dance videos for my students during a break, but now it's no longer accessible. So I can't imagine that teacher was using the school server. If he was, shame on the school district for not having a block on those websites because that meant the students could access those websites from school computers, too.

The teacher should be fired. What an idiot.

 

[YodaGirl]

I'm going to say that, if he needs to watch it so badly that he's watching it during school hours, he's addicted.

Yes, I think that he should be fired.

 

[luvmyfam444]

Here it's absolutely fireable. Of course they'd have to prove it. The computers are all blocked @ our schools - can't even get on hotmail - so it wouldn't happen (no wifi right now). Well I guess it could happen on a 3G phone - but that's it.

I would have a huge fit & take my dd out of the class until he is gone. If he brave info to watch prono in front of the kids I'd be afraid he'd act on what he's watching. (not necessarily with a student - but on his own!)

If the info gets out there then the community will demand he gets fired.

 

[CowboyCO]

If I were a parent, I'd be making an appearance at the school board and inform the local media. This should be a fire-able offense, but if he was using his own laptop and wasn't logged in through the schools network, it could be very difficult to prove what he was looking at.

My guess is that he would be written up formally unless he admitted what he was doing, and then he would be fired if he did.

If he is not fired, I'd make darn sure that the heat got turned up to force him out due to shame and exposure.

 

[luvmy3]

Am I the only one who sees a problem with him watching porn around kids/teens??? THIS to me is the MAIN issue...Not that he "wasting his time""

If he can't go 8 hours with watching porn, he's got issues and not someone I would want around young hromonal teens.

 

[sam_gordon]

Everyone's assuming he was watching internet porn. What if it was a DVD? Then there is no tracking, no history, etc.

Also, how did they catch him? Is it possible it was a movie with a sex scene in it, but not true porn? Either way, he shouldn't be watching a movie when kids are in the classroom.

Is the teacher a popular one or one the kids hate? Is it possible the porn claim was made up to get back at him for something? What's his side of the story? Oh, wait, this is the DIS, there's always only one side.

Now, yes, if he was truly watching porn (whether internet based or DVD), whether on his computer or the school's computer, he should be fired. If he was watching a movie, he should be at least reprimanded and suspended.

 

[Coconut36]

Everyone's assuming he was watching internet porn. What if it was a DVD? Then there is no tracking, no history, etc.

Also, how did they catch him? Is it possible it was a movie with a sex scene in it, but not true porn? Either way, he shouldn't be watching a movie when kids are in the classroom.

Is the teacher a popular one or one the kids hate? Is it possible the porn claim was made up to get back at him for something? What's his side of the story? Oh, wait, this is the DIS, there's always only one side.

Now, yes, if he was truly watching porn (whether internet based or DVD), whether on his computer or the school's computer, he should be fired. If he was watching a movie, he should be at least reprimanded and suspended.

I wonder this too. I want to know who made the claims and how it came about that he was allegedly doing this in class with kids. It doesn't mean it's impossible but I certainly wouldn't take the word of kids who may or may not have an agenda here without a little more details and facts to back it up.

Obviously if that is what he was doing it is wrong and he deserves to be terminated but I would like to know who reported this and what the investigation reveals.

 

[Coconut36]

If I were a parent, I'd be making an appearance at the school board and inform the local media. This should be a fire-able offense, but if he was using his own laptop and wasn't logged in through the schools network, it could be very difficult to prove what he was looking at.

My guess is that he would be written up formally unless he admitted what he was doing, and then he would be fired if he did.

If he is not fired, I'd make darn sure that the heat got turned up to force him out due to shame and exposure.

OK..you would go to the school board and media based on what? If your kid said "Mr Smith was looking at porn" you would take those steps first without any actual facts or confirmation to back it up? Maybe Bobby is pissed Mr Smith gave him detention or took his phone and thought it was great to make up a story about it..so I would hope you would have actual facts and credible evidence to back up claims like that before you went to the school board and media because I would assume you would face legal issues if the claims were unfounded and the man's reputation has just been publicly ruined because of a lie.