teacher caught looking at porn during elem.school...

[tuckerkeys]

this is going on in my small little town!
my husband is on the school board, and got a call last week about a male teacher, with tenure, who was caught by another teacher printing out porn! he was looking at it on his classroom computer (which had the filter turned off so he could do research...) and printing it out in the library on the really good phaser printer there...access to students ( ELEMENTARY! ) and during school hrs when children were present. what had happened was another teacher had printed out a bunch of stuff, and these pics were on the bottom, therefore when she made it to the library before he, when she picked up her pile , there was the porn! he walked in right as she was picking it up and denied it, ripped the papers out of her hand & tossed it in the trash.......the woman then picked it up & placed it in the I.T. persons mailbox to see how porn got in the school......the next day the porn was missing from the I.T. persons mailbox, the slimy teacher took it out!!! when confronted, he denied any problem, but has since said he has a problem, has gotten a lawyer and is out suspended w/ pay....looks as if he will be loosing his job! the bummer thing is that this happened in early jan and it took a week and a half to reach the superintendent! the principal didn't know what to do...and she said she ws busy...so he was in the building w/ kids for a week after AND he could have erased his computer w/ the evidence! his comp was siezed..... can you believe this!!!???

 

[transparant]

The reason why I hate tenure. They'll just relocate him so some other poor school has to deal with him.

 

[Laurajean1014]

Fired - goodbye

"don't let the door hit ya, where to Good Lord split ya!"

Enough said.

 

[transparant]

Fired - goodbye

"don't let the door hit ya, where to Good Lord split ya!"

Enough said.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

The reason why I hate tenure. They'll just relocate him so some other poor school has to deal with him.

Same here...and, I'm sure I'm going to get flamed from some union people for saying this, but the same goes for unions. Teachers who are tenured, and people who are union can get away with so much more than the average worker. This guy may in fact get fired, who knows, but theres the chance that he'll be moved to another school.

 

[klmall]

In our school system of tens of thousands of users (employees and students), no one and I mean no one, can turn off the filters on a computer in a school building. Only those from the central office with special access can turn off the filters. We complain about how the filters prevent legit research on breast cancer etc. but this is an example of what happens when you don't have proper protection in place.

 

[allicat]

Im looking at the area where you are from and Im hoping it isnt my kids school district where this is going on. Im a bit further North than LBI though.

 

[Tiggeroo]

we've seen this alot here in NJ lately. Several local teachers have lost positions.

 

[Wishing on a star]

we've seen this alot here in NJ lately.

 

[Wishing on a star]

this happened in early jan and it took a week and a half to reach the superintendent!

Would have been a matter of minutes if it had been up to me.

the principal didn't know what to do...and she said she ws busy...so he was in the building w/ kids for a week after AND he could have erased his computer w/ the evidence! his comp was siezed..... can you believe this!!!???

I in this case, I would also be asking that the Principal be investigated for negligence, cover-up, and accessory....

 

[monarchsfan16]

A 6th grade teacher at my old elementary/middle school was caught looking at porn by one of his students a few years back. He wasn't printing it out but looking at it on the classroom computer, while the kids were doing busy work (I had him for social studies in 6th grade...he assigns a lot of busy work). Some kid went up to ask him a question and discovered that.

He's still teaching there. I believe they simply removed the computer from his classroom

 

[RitaZ.]

Same here...and, I'm sure I'm going to get flamed from some union people for saying this, but the same goes for unions. Teachers who are tenured, and people who are union can get away with so much more than the average worker. This guy may in fact get fired, who knows, but theres the chance that he'll be moved to another school.

I agree with you. It's surprising how often this does happen. These teachers, who give good teachers a bad name, are protected and it's nearly impossible for them to be fired.

 

[kbkids]

I totally agree with the teacher tenure issue - don't think it's a good idea. There are teachers in my DD's school which should have been gone a long time ago.

But, on the subject of unions, until my DH started working in a union position, I would have felt the same way. But it is so not true. Being in union position does not allow you to get away with anything. Case in point, DH is a union official. He went to an investigation yesterday with an employee who was accused of violating a rule. This employee has been with the company for 27 years - never had one thing on his record. He followed an order of an official, which under normal circumstances, would have been a violation, but they were dealing with malfunctioning equipment, and his official gave him authorization to do it. The company charged him with violating the rule. DH had witnesses there who could attest that they had heard the order - they were not allowed in the investigation. The official who gave the order was not even allowed in the investigation. How fair is that? He was fired. Now, the case will go to arbitration, and we all feel that he will get his job back, but that will be at a minimum of a year from now. That's the attitude of the company - fire everyone for anything - let the union spend their money getting them their jobs back.

Sorry, it's just a very sore subject with me right now, and I've stayed quiet so long on here when the union subject comes up. But I'm really tired of unions getting bashed when my DH busts his you-know-what on a daily basis, in addition to working a 60+ hour a week job to represent the workers who are being mistreated. Now, yes, there are some who deserve what they get - but they are few and far between. And honestly, on those, he doesn't try real hard, because in his words, "I would have fired them too." But the poor guy who is 1 year away from retiring and calls in on a weekend because his wife is in the hospital (after working a consistent 28 days with no day off) gets fired for 90 days. Yeh, that's fair. I can assure - union workers don't have it easy!

 

[California Girl]

tenure does not protect anyone in this situation...the fact that the administrators acted ineffectively is another issue. please understand that. there is a total misconception about tenure. any issue involving sexual misconduct would and should result in immediate suspension. tenure or no tenure.

 

[tuckerkeys]

it is going on in the Long Beach Island NJ school dist. it is out & known by the PTA, authorities, and will soon be in the local papers here...i also found out that the mainland school dist. has THREE cases of this SAME thing going on over there, one of which involves child porn!!!... the teacher is for sure going to loose his job, but has aquired a lawyer through the union, and the next step is discussions on how he will "properly" give his resignation....from what i was told, he is JUST 6 months from pension rights, and if he were to be fired now, he looses his pension....so what is going to happen is he will use his sick days, and vacation time, and this puts him just into the end of June, when he will retire w/ his pension.....Apparently he has just gotten back together w/ his wife, he has a pornography problem.. seems as if he is addicted? He said he went to therapy for it, obviously it did no good since he brought it into the classroom....We were thinking of how many times he actually was looking at/ printing that he did not get caught!!! it just makes me sick! the picture content he was looking at was pretty sick too ( my husband is on the school board, so i know a bit too much...) i am glad he is resigning though...and he is not allowed in the school AGAIN....

 

[kbkids]

tenure does not protect anyone in this situation...the fact that the administrators acted ineffectively is another issue. please understand that. there is a total misconception about tenure. any issue involving sexual misconduct would and should result in immediate suspension. tenure or no tenure.

I agree with that. My problem with tenure are the teachers (and it's only a small few in our area), who are simply biding their time. The kids' test scores are consistently not good (I've seen them), and they really just put out the minimal effort. Luckily, our principal allows us to de-request teachers we don't want (can't request) but she will honor de-request. The same teachers get de-requested by all of the parents every year. This to me should say something. The kids that end up in the classes are new students moving in from out of town who don't know and the ones whose parents haven't taken the time to . . . . well, I'm not going there - you know what I mean. Alot of the new out-of-town students end up getting transferred out within a matter of months because the parents figure it out and throw a fit - I don't blame them. I think tenure is great in that it protects the good ones (I have several great friends who are teachers, and I plan to start myself next year), but unfortunately, it protects the bad ones too.

 

[tuckerkeys]

On another note, the principal in the school this was going on in has applied to be the new superintendent in the District. Because things were not brought to anyone for a week and a half have basically cost her the job for superintendent...and the I.T person has some 'splainin to do on why filters were turned off and "forgotten" about....oopps!

 

[California Girl]

as a matter of fact, our state's department of education website lists teachers whose certificates have been revoked with the reason for that revoking. an individual just lost his certificate (and his job) for accessing pornographic materials on a school laptop computer. i'm curious how many states make this information public.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

I totally agree with the teacher tenure issue - don't think it's a good idea. There are teachers in my DD's school which should have been gone a long time ago.

But, on the subject of unions, until my DH started working in a union position, I would have felt the same way. But it is so not true. Being in union position does not allow you to get away with anything. Case in point, DH is a union official. He went to an investigation yesterday with an employee who was accused of violating a rule. This employee has been with the company for 27 years - never had one thing on his record. He followed an order of an official, which under normal circumstances, would have been a violation, but they were dealing with malfunctioning equipment, and his official gave him authorization to do it. The company charged him with violating the rule. DH had witnesses there who could attest that they had heard the order - they were not allowed in the investigation. The official who gave the order was not even allowed in the investigation. How fair is that? He was fired. Now, the case will go to arbitration, and we all feel that he will get his job back, but that will be at a minimum of a year from now. That's the attitude of the company - fire everyone for anything - let the union spend their money getting them their jobs back.

Sorry, it's just a very sore subject with me right now, and I've stayed quiet so long on here when the union subject comes up. But I'm really tired of unions getting bashed when my DH busts his you-know-what on a daily basis, in addition to working a 60+ hour a week job to represent the workers who are being mistreated. Now, yes, there are some who deserve what they get - but they are few and far between. And honestly, on those, he doesn't try real hard, because in his words, "I would have fired them too." But the poor guy who is 1 year away from retiring and calls in on a weekend because his wife is in the hospital (after working a consistent 28 days with no day off) gets fired for 90 days. Yeh, that's fair. I can assure - union workers don't have it easy!

Then if this is the norm with unions I stand corrected and I apologize...but I still don't like unions.

 

[Tiggeroo]

Like I said it has happened several times recently here in SJ. I've not seen any teacher protected. In fact their name and pics are all over the paper. It takes a bit of time for the investigation to be conducted but they've been fired publicly and if necessary criminal charges are placed.
At our local hs the head of security, who had pushed for the install of alot of security cameras in the new school, was caught using the cameras to look at hs girls, esp chearleaders in the lockers. He was fired, prosecuted, and the case was so public that his dd was forced to withdraw from the hs due to embarrassment. I would assume that if it hits the paper the teacher is gone with no good references.