Taggin' along with the hubs-Aug 18-22, 2010---NEW 9/9 FINAL THOUGHTS & BREAKING NEWS!

Those renovated rooms look great!

How did you drink soda that late and sleep?! Wish I could do that!
 
Glad you were able to pamper yourself a bit before you left :goodvibes

I loved the new rooms at CSR too, so pretty! We had problems with the soda vending machines too, only tried two of them, but neither worked :confused3
 
Hey Spartangirl, where in MI are you from? I am from Rochester Hills, and just moved out of state a year ago.
 

Livonia...One of my best friends lives in Rochester Hills! :goodvibes

Sorry Melanie for hijacking your thread :goodvibes . I am actually coming "home" to visit and go to Arts N' Apples the second weekend in September. Plus I have to go apple picking and hit a cider mill!
 
Wow, CSR looks amazing, those room photos are beautiful! I am SO excited to hear all about your tour... can't wait!!! popcorn::
 
Hi Melanie! Welcome Back! I see I have some catching up to do, but I'll be back!
 
Great start, Melanie. I love the pictures of CSR...especially the one that has a hidden Mickey in the lobby. Looking forward to reading more.
Thanks! That was one of the first cool details I noticed & I thought it was a neat hidden Mickey.

So excited that you started! The rooms look great! I loved that Mickey lamp, I think I would have had to take it home! I think I will start mine a week or two before we go. There isn't much to report.
I know that lamp was so cute!

Nothing better than starting vacation off with a pedicure! :thumbsup2

Wow...the rooms at CSR look really nice! :goodvibes
CSR was very nice & the beds were really comfy too!

Those renovated rooms look great!

How did you drink soda that late and sleep?! Wish I could do that!
Caffeine just really doesn't effect me too much. I can drink a diet mtn dew right before bed & go right to sleep.

Glad you were able to pamper yourself a bit before you left :goodvibes

I loved the new rooms at CSR too, so pretty! We had problems with the soda vending machines too, only tried two of them, but neither worked :confused3
I love pedicures....I only treat myself to one 2-3 times a year, but they always feel sooooo good. It's a soda machine conspiracy!!!! :teeth:

Wow, CSR looks amazing, those room photos are beautiful! I am SO excited to hear all about your tour... can't wait!!! popcorn::
The tour will be coming up soon!

Hi Melanie! Welcome Back! I see I have some catching up to do, but I'll be back!
Thanks Tammy. Catch up when you can.

Great pictures of the Coronado Springs rooms Melanie!
Thanks Glenn. It helped having Eric out of the room for a few minutes, because he starts getting antsy wanting to get settled in before I am finished taking pictures.


I have a meeting this morning at the community college I teach for but I hope to get the next installment typed up & posted this afternoon.:thumbsup2
 
Just found your report...it sounds great and I can't wait to hear more about it. I can't wait to hear about the tour. Keep it coming.
 
well nuts, you should have told me you had this going on i missed the PReTR and the start of the TR, i was going to give you some pointers and tips on CSR but too late your back.

buy hey cant wait to read about it...:surfweb:


and you can tell us, i bet they only went in to the conference room and left after just 10 minutes to go to the parks right.
:thumbsup2:rolleyes1
 
Just found your report...it sounds great and I can't wait to hear more about it. I can't wait to hear about the tour. Keep it coming.
:welcome: & glad you found me!

well nuts, you should have told me you had this going on i missed the PReTR and the start of the TR, i was going to give you some pointers and tips on CSR but too late your back.

buy hey cant wait to read about it...:surfweb:


and you can tell us, i bet they only went in to the conference room and left after just 10 minutes to go to the parks right.
:thumbsup2:rolleyes1
:welcome: Dan! Wondered when you would show up.....dang it on missing out on your CSR pointers. I wish they would have been like that but they did go to the darn meetings & even stayed until the very last one til noon on Saturday. Dang responsible people.:sad2::lmao: When I went to a conference at Disney years ago.......we snuck out early several days.:tiptoe::thumbsup2
 
Day 2 dawned very early as the alarm clock went off at 6. We wanted to eat breakfast together before Eric's meetings started & he had to register by 7:30. So into the shower I went first to let him sleep a few more minutes.
We headed over on foot to El Centro which is the main building of Coronado Springs. It was a beautiful walk over.
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We ate breakfast in the Pepper Market. Good thing I had read Glennbo's explanation of this place or I would have been confused. We got our food & then waited for several minutes for someone to get our drink order. It seemed like no one was responsible for us & no one would make eye contact. Finally someone came over & we started eating our breakfast & got something to drink.
My breakfast platter....
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The food was good & fresh. I liked that you didn't have to stand in a long line to pay while your food was getting cold.:thumbsup2 After we ate, Eric headed to the conference center & I went back to the room for a few minutes. I had to be at EPCOT at 8:45 for my tour so I got on-line & checked my email & made a post here & before I knew it it was time to head to the bus stop. I didn't have to wait but about 5 minutes & then was on a bus to EPCOT.
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I was there well in advance of the 8:45 meeting time, but I certainly didn't want to be late. So I took a few pictures.
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Then I checked in at guest services & was told to go wait in the shady area for the guides. Unlike some of the other tours, the Backstage Magic is not done by the Guest Services CM's but is instead done by the staff of the Disney Institute. There was a nice couple from North Carolina already there & we chatted while we waited for the rest of the group to show up. They were on their first trip ever without kids along & were so excited to be doing whatever they wanted. There ended up being about 20 people on the tour.

Around 8:45, the 2 guides Stu & Bryan showed up. They gave us a lanyard with a nametag on it & checked everyone's picture ID & that we all had on closed toe shoes because we would be going into some active work shops. Then, we walked over & boarded a Disney Cruise Line bus that would be our transportation for the day. The 2 guides each told us a bit about their history with the company & what our photo restrictions were for the day. Anywhere with strollers & kids (meaning on stage) we could take as many photos as we wanted, but backstage photos are a no-no except they said there would be one exception & they would tell us where that was. They also told us there was a cooler full of water in the front of the bus & to help ourselves throughout the day. Before we knew it, we were backstage at EPCOT. It was amazing to me that once we got back stage, how close everything was. What would take you 20 minutes to walk to in the park was like no time back there. We drove right past the Test Track outdoor loop (which is technically back stage so even if you have never taken a back stage tour if you have ridden TT you have been back stage).

We made a brief stop at the gates, which had these big platforms that were raised up, & a security guard got on to do a bag check & then they lowered the platform so the bus could drive on in.....pretty cool way to keep people out of back stage that aren't supposed to be there. This was the procedure each time we entered the backstage areas.

Our first destination was the American Adventure. They split us into 2 groups here & I was in Bryans group. We walked up beside the pavillion talking along the way about the fact that back stage areas have few frills....the buildings are concrete with paint on them basically back there & there is no landscaping etc. As you get closer to on stage & the sight line of the guests, details start being added so the bricks on the building start right past where the guests would begin to see them. We then walked on-stage & into an empty World Showcase.
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And then went around to the front of the building.
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Bryan talked about the use of reverse forced perspective for the American Adventure building.
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They wanted to make what is a 7 story building look smaller, so 2 stories are underground & they make the other 5 stories look like 3 buy making the doors & windows much larger than they should be which he illustrated by having someone walk over to the door & it was alot taller than the person.
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It really does trick the eye into thinking what the Imagineers want you to think about the size of the building. We also talked about the style of architecture which is a blend of several buildings (Williamsburg, Philadelphia & White House) not just one building so that it would seem familiar but not be able to pinpoint it as being one famous building.
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They put details there like using real Georgia bricks just like the used in colonial times because it makes everything look right. Walt didn't necessarily believe guests would pick up all the details but he felt if something didn't look quite right then guests would pick up that something felt wrong. Pretty amazing stuff. After that, we switched places with the other group & went back stage again & into the "Pit" area of American Adventure. We had to put on our safety goggles here & walked into a darkened area with a bank of computer screens on one side & a big pit in the floor on the other. The "pit" is probably 2 stories deep & it has a track that the scenes for the show slide along like they are on a train car. What amazed me is the whole thing starts out under the seats in the theater & rolls back into the back stage building scene by scene as the show progresses. That central mechansim has 16 different scenes loaded into it & there are a few other scenes off to each side. There are over 30 characters in the show. They were doing a test & we got to see it roll back twice as we were talking. I could see the first scene with Mark Twain & Benjamin Franklin really well from where I was standing & it was kind of eerie how real they look & I couldn't help but think about the Kingdom Keepers books.:scared1:

The other amazing thing is that at the time they were building this show for the opening of EPCOT in the late 70's early 80's there was no rear projection screen technology that would work & they needed rear projection so that the screen would be behind the characters so no shadows would be cast. So that technology & even a special 7000 watt bulb had to be made just for this show.

I saw a funny sign taped up near one of the computers while in that building...it read "Old age & treachery will overcome youth & skill.":lmao:
I also saw lots of big signs back stage that read "SafeD begins with me."

We then made our way back to our bus & were headed for our next stop. We talked alot on the way about the acquistion of land for the "Florida Project." Walt Disney World is 27,443 acres or 47 square miles which is about the size of Manhattan. Only 1/2 of the land at this point is developed so there is still room to grow!:thumbsup2

Our next stop was backstage at the Magic Kingdom. We went first to the Magic Kingdom Central Shops which had a big sign that said the "Can Do People" because Admiral Joe Fowler that helped Walt build Disneyland & oversaw construction at Walt Disney World as well always answered "can do" when asked if he could get something done. There were signs with Goofy on them everywhere reminding everyone that safety googles were a must in this building. This is the area where everything is built, reworked, refurbished, painted etc. It is a huge warehouse with a big central hallway which is mostly where things are stored while being worked on. We saw some amazing things in there like a Jungle Cruise elephant without his skin, a Jungle Cruise giraffe that was being freshened up, a Dinosaur ride vehicle, tea cups, a Peter Pan pirate ship, Buzz Lightyear ride vehicles and so many more things. We went down to an area where they had some audioanimatonics set up so you could see how they work. One happened to be Bonnie Appetite from the old Kitchen Kabaret show to show a more complicated figure & then a simpler tiki bird. They have fluid filled hydralics in some & air filled hydralics in others that cause the movements. Bonnie looked a little scary with crazy disheveled hair, but it was cool to see a character from a show I used to love.

In this area, we also went to the paint workshop where they do all the painting for things. They have over 20,000 colors they work with & a lot of them are patented like Tigger Orange. Here we saw different examples of faux painting techniques like for tree bark--like at Thunder Mtn the trees should be more reddish to match the kind of bark on the trees in that area. Amazing stuff. We also saw them working on alot of Splash Mountain Logs which are made from huge molds in there. They were sanding & getting them just right before they were to be painted. We also saw molds for bumpers for the Lights Motor Action vehicles which have to be replaces alot. One really neat thing we saw, was a carousel horse being repainted.

This was such a fascinating place & I was amazed at all the things I got to see. Back to the bus, we headed for another area of the Magic Kingdom. They asked us to guess how many employees WDW has.....most guessed way too low. They have 60,000 at WDW alone which makes it the largest single site employeer in the company. We reached a parking area that is right behind Main Street USA & got out there. We could see "Tink's Landing area" that I remembered from the Keys to the Kingdom tour so I asked about that & was told that there are at least 2 "tink's" up there to help catch Tink each night as she flys/zooms in over Tomorrowland for her landing. We walked on-stage through an area you see here.
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And then, headed towards the Roy & Minnie statue.
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Move It Shake It Celebrate It was going on so we paused a few minutes there & watched.
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I was excited to see Daisy Duck as you don't see her often.
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We saw a few Main Steet citizens too!
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Cont in next post......
 
After the parade moved away abit, we started meanderin up main street & talked about forced perspective again & alot about the windows on Main Street & the meanings behind them.
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These are the people that imagined & brought the Magic Kingdom to life. This tradition started with Walt in Disneyland wanting to honor the people that had put so much work & effort into the park. They came up with tongue in cheek sayings to go along with the person's personality or hobbies & put them on windows like company names. They also serve as like the opening credits to a movie that you are watching. Pretty cool idea.
Walt's window faces the castle.
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We took a short bathroom break & I took this picture of Move It Shake It as it was in front of the castle now.
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Then we went backstage right past the Plaza restaurant & went into a door & down some steps into the Utilidors. The Utilidors are actually not underground because it was swamp land, they are on the 1st floor of the Magic Kindgom & the guest areas are on the 2nd floor. They did a tremendous amount of digging & needed earth to move around the utilidors so they dug Seven Seas Lagoon & Bay Lake & used that earth to fill in around the utilidors to create the floor of the Magic Kingdom. This was a great concept, because now all the "yucky" stuff could happen "underground" like waste disposal, workers walking to their appropriate areas to go to work, mercandise transportation etc. So, the workers start their day in a parking lot & are bussed to the main entrace of the utilidors. That main corridor has the "mouseketeria", a barber shop & things that help the cast members in their daily jobs. We walked around alot of the utilidor areas & saw cast members going to & from work. We saw break rooms with couches, vending machines & video games. There are tons of things stored there like LOTS of toilet paper & we saw people driving carts, fork lifts etc moving things around. There were all kinds of cool things on the walls like neat signs about the basic priniciples of safety, courtesy, show & efficiency, posters of cast members that had been recongized for being excellent, pin trading sets from years past. It was cool to learn about the reason the pin trading was started which was to help improve the guest/cast member interactions & give CM's chances to really talk with guests & make magical experiences. This is also the reason the CM's name badges have their hometown on them, to help in striking up conversations. Disney does all these things to improve brand loyalty among it's guests & I think they do a great job of it.

We heard garbage skittering along above our heads in the evacuation tubes.....there is a urban legend that the garbage is sucked directly from the cans down into the utilidors, but this is wrong. There are centralized stations the garbage is take to & then dumped into a vacuum tube & pumped out to a holding area where recycleable, heavier garbage falls out & the lighter stuff like food waste etc continues on & is made into compost or what they like to call "zippie a dee doo doo" or "winnie the poop". :lmao:

After our time in the Utilidors, we went back to the bus & headed for lunch at the Wilderness Lodge at the Whispering Canyon Cafe.
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I had never eaten here & was looking forward to it. I was taking this picture when our lovely waitress MT asked me "Ma'am ain't you never seen a light fixture before?" She was a hoot & continued to entertain us all thoughout lunch.
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View of WL lobby from our table.
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Another cool light fixture in the restaurant.
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We had corn bread & cole slaw both pretty yummy waiting on the table when we got there. Our food was all served family style in a skillet---I wasn't quick enough to get a decent picture before all the hungry people started digging in so here's my blurry iphone pic.
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The skillet had ribs, chicken, sausage, baked beans, mashed potatoes & corn on the cob in it. I tried the ribs, chicken, potatoes & corn. It was good, but a little greasy for my taste.
Our lovely waitress MT scolding someone for something which she did alot along with aggravating her "brother" who was serving the other table.
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Dessert was a delicious peach & strawberry cobbler with ice cream that is only done for the tours lunch.
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After lunch & a bathroom break, we had a few minutes to wander around the lodge so I took a few pictures because the place is just so darn pretty.
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Then we hopped back on the bus to continue the tour...........

Next up...........what else did we see??????
 
I really want to do this tour again, just can't afford it this year. I just bought from Amazon.com, and I think you will enjoy, is a DVD from the History Channel called Modern Marvels: Walt Disney World. I thought I knew a lot since I have done a lot of research and did the backstage magic (at DL and WDW), but you learn a lot more!
 
WOW...the tour sounds pretty amazing so far! Can't wait to hear what else is in store for you! :goodvibes

Isn't the Wilderness Lodge amazing? I just love that place! :thumbsup2 Looks like your lunch was really good!
 
The tour must have been amazing... I am jealous!!! :rotfl: Can't wait to read more!
 
We don't have time this trip, but that tours sounds amazing and it is definitely going to have to go on the list for a future trip.
 
The tour sounds great! I definitely need to do it someday.

I'm glad my Pepper Market description was helpful to you.
 
What a fantastic tour so far! Sounds like something I would love, your lunch - not so much though. Kinda stinks that you couldn't order from the menu. I'm not a fan of corn bread, cole slaw, ribs, sausage, baked beans or cobbler of any kind - I may have left that lunch just as hungry as I was when I got there :laughing:
 












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