Well, to be honest, I haven't even been to the S/D yet! But from what I have heard, they try to keep people away during the ceremony, so it is not crowded with onlookers. But we are having ours at the East Courtyard and from what I have been told, it is a bit more secluded. I don't think we will be staying at the S/D since I was checking out their 2005 rates, and they are a bit out of our price range since we are spending quite a bit on the VR. We think we will be staying at POR since we stayed at POFQ this year and wandered around POR and liked it. We, too, did not really want to pay 7,500 to 10,000 for our VR so that is why we started to look at the Swan for the ceremony, since we will be having 20 people, which is over the intimate amount at Disney. I really love my coordinator at Just Marry, Michele. She has been incredible.