Survivor - Exile Island is getting hot!

[carone0318]

He didn't have to talk down to anyone. He was the epitome of military officer, IMHO.

So you don't consider when he told Aras that his mother wasn't "important" enough to warrant a visit talking down to?

While Terry was an exceptional physical/athletic player he lacked the social skills to really make it all the way. Image if his social skills were nearly as good as Cirie's it would be possible that he might have been able to survive without winning every single challenge. His confidence reaked arrogance. His arrogance is what Casaya wanted to get ride of. Terry was a good player at the game, but not a great player. He dominated physically, but that is only half of the game.

 

[RUDisney]

So you don't consider when he told Aras that his mother wasn't "important" enough to warrant a visit talking down to?

Right after Terry chose the people whom he chose, I told my DS, he chose his wife because he won. He chose Shane's son because a young son is more important than a mother. He chose Cirie's husband because a spouse is more important than a mother. He DID give Aras the hug and he sent Danielle to exile with nothing. Everything I explained to my DS, Terry explained when he got back to camp. There are relationships that you develop in your life that are more important than the one you have with your mother.

I told my DS that if I was there to see him, I wouldn't have been surprised to not get to spend time with him given the other relationship factors that were presented.

Terry did the right thing.

 

[carone0318]

Right after Terry chose the people whom he chose, I told my DS, he chose his wife because he won. He chose Shane's son because a young son is more important than a mother. He chose Cirie's husband because a spouse is more important than a mother. He DID give Aras the hug and he sent Danielle to exile with nothing. Everything I explained to my DS, Terry explained when he got back to camp. There are relationships that you develop in your life that are more important than the one you have with your mother.

I told my DS that if I was there to see him, I wouldn't have been surprised to not get to spend time with him given the other relationship factors that were presented.

Terry did the right thing.

According to you he did the right thing, but neither Terry nor anyone else has the right to tell someone else that their most important relationship in their life is not important. He would of been better off not justifying his actions. Step outside of the box, it's social skills. He could of been more diplomatic about his approach rather than his arrogant justification. This is a pointless argument. The winner has already been declared as have the second and third place.

 

[RUDisney]

According to you he did the right thing, but neither Terry nor anyone else has the right to tell someone else that their most important relationship in their life is not important. He would of been better off not justifying his actions. Step outside of the box, it's social skills. He could of been more diplomatic about his approach rather than his arrogant justification. This is a pointless argument. The winner has already been declared as have the second and third place.

And, the jury said that they'd have given the million dollars to Terry if he'd have been one of the final two. I thought his social skills were right on for the situation into which he was put. You don't. My personality is very much like Terry's. At least it's the personality that I outwardly attempt each day when I wake up. Neither Terry nor I are giggly Ciries.

 

[grimley1968]

I didn't think the final challenge was fair.The higher weight is going to have a tougher time balancing.Even a child could stay on longer than most poised adults due to simple physics..I was bummed

Although I was really, really rooting for Terry to win, I don't think that last challenge was unfair. Terry had plenty of challenges that were perfectly suited for his fighter pilot training (quick reflexes and physical stamina) that he won. A challenge that favored an ability to balance yourself wasn't unfair in the big scheme of things. If it did indeed favor shorter people, Terry should have at least beaten Aras in this challenge, as Aras seemed a bit taller and thinner than Terry. If Terry is any taller than Danielle, it's not by much.

How classy was it that Terry swallowed huge amounts of pride and voted Aras to win? I loved that.

I'd love to see Terry in an "All-Stars" thing if they do that again. Even with a target on his back (let's face it, he had a huge target on his back for about 1/2 of this last Survivor series being the lone non-Casaya person for a long time), I think he could still find a way to pull it off, now that he's hopefully gained some skill in the social aspect of the game.

 

[Laurajean1014]

I agree, and the show pointed the difference out to us. When Danielle went to both of them, seperately, to explain why she hasn't made up her mind, Terry was mature, and did not pressure her, while at the same time letting her know she should pick him. He did not make her feel uncomfortable at all. Aras, he goes crazy on her. Telling her he would be so very disapointed, threatens her, ect. He wouldn't let it go, either. When she was in the tent with the paper writing down the names for who would get the votes (where did she get pen and paper anyway?) he was harrassing her. Terry, on the other hand, gave her space.

I totally agree.

Aras is just another boring spoiled brat with a bit of money. I'll bet anyone that in 5 years he doesn't have the $670,000 (after taxes)!

Terry will be offered an all-star position. He was a terrific player.

I was disappointed that Cirie won the car. She doesn't have people skills - she just wasn't as ridiculous as the Crazy Casaya group. You put anyone up against Danielle, Aras, Shane and Courtney - you'll get a much shinnier penny, but that does not make her worthy of a place in the finals or a car.

I would like to see Survivor producers give a better psychological evaluation and a better physical examination to their contestants.

A sinister laugh does not make you a charming person.

 

[grimley1968]

What I find satisfying about all this (as a big Terry fan) is that Terry surely does not "need" that $670,000 very much. I bet he has quite a bit salted away somewhere. Airline pilots make good money.

I just think Terry is an extremely competitive person and probably would have tried just as hard if the prize was $1,000. He may be a little too Top Gun for some people (maybe he actually trained at the Top Gun school?), but I don't see that as arrogance. I think he's been trained long and hard to be physically and mentally prepared for disasters in the air and brings it to his everyday life. I'm a pilot myself, but I know I'd not be as prepared to deal with problems in the air as Terry would be. As a co-pilot or Survivor opponent, I'd prefer a stand-up competitor like Terry any day over people like Danielle (who as Shane said really did seem useless around camp) or Aras (who I found to be insufferably whiny at times - like the pressuring of Danielle about the vote or the crack about Terry being sexist, etc.). I admire Terry a lot.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

Ok, to the people who like Aras better than Terry, and think Terry is arrogant, I have a question.

Terry is a military trained fighter pilot. Who would you rather have defending our country? A confident determined man? Or a whiny, spoiled brat?

I know Survivor has nothing to do with defending our country, but my point is, Terry may have no social skills for the game of Survivor, although, I don't agree with that, I think he would of been great of they had just given him a chance, but Casaya drew a line right from the get-go, and would not allow him in. I don't blame his attitude. BUT, that attitude is one of a strong military career man. My brother was one, and he tried everything thrown at him, and never gave up.

Also, side by side, it is obvious that Aras is still just a kid at 24. He has a whole life ahead of him, and doesn't even know it.

 

[Laurajean1014]

"Youth is wasted on the young"

That can't be more true of a saying for Aras. He's young and angry, whiney, apathetic and $600k richer. But, I do not see him as a confident man.

Terry was not arrogant, he was truthful. He was strong and able - it was Casaya who whined there way to make the Survivor watchers empathic and pathetic to their needs. Not the other way around. Do you think you could whine your way out of a challange, if you were stuck on an island?

Who would you want on the island, Aras or Terry?

Terry all the way, baby!

 

[Laurajean1014]

So you don't consider when he told Aras that his mother wasn't "important" enough to warrant a visit talking down to?

While Terry was an exceptional physical/athletic player he lacked the social skills to really make it all the way. Image if his social skills were nearly as good as Cirie's it would be possible that he might have been able to survive without winning every single challenge. His confidence reaked arrogance. His arrogance is what Casaya wanted to get ride of. Terry was a good player at the game, but not a great player. He dominated physically, but that is only half of the game.

Cirie did not have great social skills - she was just less nuttier than that Casaya bunch. Did she ever give Terry or Sally the time of day during their stay on the island? A good person with great personality skills would have been cordial to everyone. She wasn't. She never paid much attention to Bruce or Bobby, either. Not a good person, at all.

Terry didn't talk down to Aras or anyone (that is their perception, but not reality). Aras was complaining about how he only got a hug. The darn arrogant brat should have been happy! I bet Terry thought he should have sent Aras to Exile Island. Aras can complain all he wants, but everyone knows Aras was wrong for confronting Terry in his decision.

If Aras was strong enough to win that challange, what would he have done?

Hmmmm. He and his mom, Cirie and Hub - cabin, Shane bringing Boston to camp with Danielle and Terry to Exile Island.

Please.