Survivor 20**HvV**No SPOILER THREAD**

One of the few Survivor people I like more than Russell... Parvati!

I think from aside those two, the only other person I'd love to see win it Jerri. We'll see though...

I just hope it's not Rupert, Sandra or Danielle.
 
She is a good competitor. If Russell would wake up but it may be too late. Wonder what his wife thinks about his infatuation with Parvati.



I've been wondering the same thing. It would definately NOT be okay with me if my husband was like this.
 
One of the few Survivor people I like more than Russell... Parvati!

I think from aside those two, the only other person I'd love to see win it Jerri. We'll see though...

I just hope it's not Rupert, Sandra or Danielle.



I'm actually starting to root for Jerri. She's the only one left I can stomach.
 

Yuck!!! She is another one who failed to bring anything interesting to this season.

I'm sorry but I cannot disagree with you more. If Jerri hadn't have joined Team Russell/Parvati, there wouldn't be anymore Team Russell/Parvati. They would have both been gone, probably along with Danielle.

That alone makes it interesting to me.
 
I just don't even know who to root for any more. My favorites (Boston Rob, and JT) are gone, and I just really dislike everyone on both teams. I feel like they are all ignorant and foolish.

Colby didn't put forth any effort this whole time, Parvati is obnoxious, Russell is the biggest liar in the world, Jerri is a pointless character, and Sandra is clever but doesn't work. Amanda always looks as if she is going to cry, and I don't even remember who Candice and Daniella are half the time.

Rupert is the only one who is playing a seemingly honest game, and playing through the 'pain' of his broken toe.

The Villains (Parvati, Sandra, Russell) are all really crafty and make huge moves, and are all pretty evenly matched, but the heros really just cannot make wise choices.
 
I'm sorry but I cannot disagree with you more. If Jerri hadn't have joined Team Russell/Parvati, there wouldn't be anymore Team Russell/Parvati. They would have both been gone, probably along with Danielle.

That alone makes it interesting to me.


What makes you say that? and I still think she has been boring this season.
 
I agree! Sometimes I forget Jerri is even there she is such a nothing this season!

Yes, just like Danielle. Jerri just follows Russ and Parvarti around.


On one of the secret videos Rupert is talking about a really bad storm that took their shelter and he said that Russ was to comfy all snuggle (sp?) with all the girls, and they (the girls) were screaming and not doing anything, and Russ just watching them and not helping, hahaha I can pictured the girls all scared and Russ like a troll in the middle...
 
On one of the secret videos Rupert is talking about a really bad storm that took their shelter and he said that Russ was to comfy all snuggle (sp?) with all the girls, and they (the girls) were screaming and not doing anything, and Russ just watching them and not helping, hahaha I can pictured the girls all scared and Russ like a troll in the middle...

Well, considering how well he weathered Katrina, a little old storm there wouldn't faze him. :rolleyes::rolleyes1
 
I just don't even know who to root for any more. My favorites (Boston Rob, and JT) are gone, and I just really dislike everyone on both teams. I feel like they are all ignorant and foolish.

Colby didn't put forth any effort this whole time, Parvati is obnoxious, Russell is the biggest liar in the world, Jerri is a pointless character, and Sandra is clever but doesn't work. Amanda always looks as if she is going to cry, and I don't even remember who Candice and Daniella are half the time.

Rupert is the only one who is playing a seemingly honest game, and playing through the 'pain' of his broken toe.

The Villains (Parvati, Sandra, Russell) are all really crafty and make huge moves, and are all pretty evenly matched, but the heros really just cannot make wise choices.

Ignorant and foolish is giving an idol to someone on the other team. :rotfl2:
 
I thought I would post Jeff's thoughts on Survivor:Samoa after reading through all the posts yesterday about Russell. The only thing I did not include was stuff at the end about the current season which said nothing.

Okay, now that the show is officially over I’m going to take off my hosting and producing hat and just give you my personal reaction to what went down last night.

I think Russell was the victim of a jury of bitter people. I am not taking anything away from Natalie, she clearly did a great job of reading the group dynamic of the jury and as a result she deserves the money.

Oftentimes on Survivor, the vote does come down to a choice where a determining factor is “how nice someone is” but that’s usually when all other criteria being considered is equal. That doesn’t hold up this season. This season was so lopsided in terms of one person (Russell) completely dominating the game that to not give him the money and the title is a bit silly.

If I were playing Survivor, no matter how much I despised someone, if they kicked my *** in the game I would give it to them. Period. Outwit. Outplay. Nobody outwitted or outplayed Russell. Not even close.

I was a bit surprised at Erik’s nod to Natalie during the final tribal council. I think he certainly helped Natalie and definitely hurt Russell. I also think that when Erik watches this season again in a few years he will regret not giving his vote to Russell. Erik is the kind of guy who I thought would respect a player like Russell. I think Erik was still smarting from the whole Galu disaster.

I do not believe the jury voted for Natalie, I believe the jury voted against Russell.

Russell was clearly upset last night and I think a lot of people understand why that would be. He played a very risky and creative game and he wanted to be acknowledged. As for the audience, they spoke quite loudly when they awarded him the $100,000 from Sprint by an overwhelming 46% Russell to 10% Shambo… and 7% Natalie. Not even close. I put myself in that same group. Again, I’m speaking as a fan, not as a host or a producer.

But hey this is how it goes, it’s why Survivor is so fun to watch, you can never predict the outcome. So…

A FEW QUESTIONS…
Q. Can you be considered the greatest player ever if you don’t win? Hmmm. It’s a tough question for me. On one hand, it’s a no-brainer, absolutely not. Survivor is a social game and to win you have to vote people out in a way that compels them to return and vote for you to win the game. It’s extremely complicated and Russell did not achieve it, therefore he cannot be considered the greatest player to ever play. On the other hand, I can’t think of anybody who has ever played a game like Russell played. It was so dominating that I am still shaking my head that he didn’t win. The only guy I could even see having the talent and guts to do something equally dominating would be Boston Rob. So I am on the fence on this one. But this much I am certain of – Russell is without any question ONE of the greats. No doubt about it.


Q. Did Natalie play a better game than Russell? For me, that’s a bit easier to answer. I do not think that Natalie played a better game, but rather was the right person in the right position who made one very good strategic move and that was to stay out of Russell’s way, and as a result she ended up with the money. But to be fair – a very good counter argument is that Natalie used her strengths, avoided her weaknesses and by taking this active approach to the game, she put herself in position to win the money and it paid off. It’s a counter argument, but not one that I’m that fond of supporting.

Q. Was this a great season or a lame season? For me, this is another easy question. Survivor: Samoa will rank as one of my favorite seasons and for one reason: Russell Hantz. He single handedly kept this show interesting week after week after week. But I know some will argue that because it was “The Russell Season” it lacked having more big characters and therefore does not rank as high. This is one that will be debated by Survivor fans for years to come.

THANKS for posting. Jeff sees it just the way I do!!!
 
Hope one of tonight's challenges will be an auction; I love those! I don't think one has been done yet this season.
 
so excited for tonight's episode:) im defenitely rooting for sandra this season..
loved her in pearl islands and she's just as good in heroes vs villains
 














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