Survivor 20**HvV**No SPOILER THREAD**

[lacrosse_lady72]

Hm... I didn't realize there was a spoiler thread. I don't want to know but part of me does. Urgh.

 

[PixieDust32]

I'm having trouble seeing how Russell outsmarted Rob based on what they showed on TV. Rob figured out exactly what Russell was going to do if he had the idol and covered both Russell playing it himself or giving it to Parvati. So, he arranged to have 3 votes for Russell and 3 for Parvati. Even if Russell figured out Rob's plan, I don't remember seeing anything that would have told Russell who exactly was going to vote for him and who was going to vote for Parvati. If Tyson was ALREADY going to be voting for Parvati, Russell wouldn't have been changing his vote, and Russell would have been voted out. Frankly, I think he just lucked out.

Unless or until he can win the game, I don't see how Russell can be considered one of the great players (except in his own mind). He may be able to manipulate some people, but in the process he alienates enough people that he's going to have trouble getting the votes in the end.

I agree!
Tyson made the mistake when he voted for parv instead of Russ like Rob told him. Rob is smart, Russ is just egocentric and a liar.

 

[PixieDust32]

Please no spoilers, I didn't read previous pages and Im glad for what I see, someone wrote some

 

[DisneyPrince82]

he is a good player, but not the best. Rob is better, Rob doesn't have that narcissist ego syndrome like Russ does, Russ is good but his ego takes over, Russ goes around saying how he is the best, he is this and that, just play the game Russ, win the challenges do something other that talk to the camera. I'm not saying he is not a good player at all, he just think that the world revolves around him.

Rob is not better, Rob has never won the game either. Let's see whom gets the better of whom! My money is on Russell.

 

[DisneyPrince82]

I'm having trouble seeing how Russell outsmarted Rob based on what they showed on TV. Rob figured out exactly what Russell was going to do if he had the idol and covered both Russell playing it himself or giving it to Parvati. So, he arranged to have 3 votes for Russell and 3 for Parvati. Even if Russell figured out Rob's plan, I don't remember seeing anything that would have told Russell who exactly was going to vote for him and who was going to vote for Parvati. If Tyson was ALREADY going to be voting for Parvati, Russell wouldn't have been changing his vote, and Russell would have been voted out. Frankly, I think he just lucked out.

Unless or until he can win the game, I don't see how Russell can be considered one of the great players (except in his own mind). He may be able to manipulate some people, but in the process he alienates enough people that he's going to have trouble getting the votes in the end.

Russell did not luck out! He knew exactly what was Rob was trying to do. He knew they were trying to split the vote which is why he talked to Tyson to make him think it would be a runaway vote and therefore no need to vote for Russ, just vote for Parv. It worked!

Does Russell strike you as a man who leaves things to chance? Nope. He knows exactly what is going down. The look of bewilderment on Rob's face was priceless. Rob should bow down to Russell's awesomeness!!

 

[shortbun]

Russell did not luck out! He knew exactly what was Rob was trying to do. He knew they were trying to split the vote which is why he talked to Tyson to make him think it would be a runaway vote and therefore no need to vote for Russ, just vote for Parv. It worked!

Does Russell strike you as a man who leaves things to chance? Nope. He knows exactly what is going down. The look of bewilderment on Rob's face was priceless. Rob should bow down to Russell's awesomeness!!

Russ isn't awesome at all, Tyson is dumb. He's been dumb since his first season but he flew under the radar. Not only was he dumb, he was mean.
Rob had nothing to do with this one-it was all Tyson's ego and a little luck on Russel's part.

 

[disney_girl2010]

TEAM RUSSELL!
Russell is awesome and it wasn't just because of his great move to get Tyson out! Look at what else he did on the elimination night- he looked right at Dragon-Slayer/Coach and said Coach you always say "Loyal, Honesty and Trust is the best thing, no matter how this comes out tonight I'm gonna stick to that" and then gives the hidden immunity to Parvati! In doing that he (in my oppinion) just reeled Coach in even more, and to the point where I think Coach will side with him! Just my oppinion though. The only true way to know is to see if Russell wins in the in! By the way Boston Rob is cool and all but he isn't all that Awesome, I mean he didn't win the season of survivor he was on and he even lost in the Amazing Race! In fact, I think he always comes in second. We shall see if he does it again! Not a Rob hater just love that Russell- no one else like him in the game!

 

[jrmasm]

he is a good player, but not the best. Rob is better, Rob doesn't have that narcissist ego syndrome like Russ does, Russ is good but his ego takes over, Russ goes around saying how he is the best, he is this and that, just play the game Russ, win the challenges do something other that talk to the camera. I'm not saying he is not a good player at all, he just think that the world revolves around him.

Sorry, they both have egos the size of Texas.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

By the way Boston Rob is cool and all but he isn't all that Awesome, I mean he didn't win the season of survivor he was on and he even lost in the Amazing Race!

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ on the Amazing Race. In my mind, he and Amber DID win, but CBS intervened. (I'm sorry, but nobody will convince me otherwise). Rob and Amber were the only team on that flight out, and the plane had started to pull away from the tarmac. Uchenna and Joyce ultimatley MISSED that flight, because the door was closed and the tarmac was being pulled back. The next thing we see, is the plane backing up, the tarmac being sent back out, and WAHLAH...the producers now have a foot race to the finish line. (had Rob and Amber been on the only team on that flight, they could have walked across the finish line). Rob said it right when he was on Regis and Kelly later that week, American Airlines owes them a million dollars, and it's true. They raced like no other team in the history of the show had ever raced. they brought a whole new strategy into the game, that quite frankly was very entertaining. (remember how Rob convinced the teams to take a penalty and not finish eating that disgusting meat?)

Russell is all talk, and IMO, he is just lucky. There is no way he is a better game player than Rob. I don't think anyone is. I am someone who HATED Rob in his 1st two season's of Survivor. But after his appearance on AR, I have a whole new respect for him, that no other reality star can match. It just amazes me how intelligent he is.

Russell pulling one over Tyson does not mean he outsmarted Rob, because if Tyson had gone to Rob and TOLD HIM what Russell had said, Rob would have seen right through it. Why didn't Russell tell Rob he was voting for Parvati? If he really wants to come out as better than Rob, then he needs to pull something like this on Rob himself, and see how far he gets. He won't, because he would be chewed up and spit out...by Rob. Russell took a chance. He won, because Tyson is as dumb as a rock. There is no way that means he outwitted Rob..no way.

 

[declansdad]

I like both Rob and Russell. I think they are both great players and are certainly entertaining. On the last show, neither outsmarted the other; both made excellent plays. In fact, Tyson hadn't decided to change his vote until he went to the voting booth.

What happens from this point forward will determine who is better. You never know, it might just be Parvati.

 

[dejr_8]

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ on the Amazing Race. In my mind, he and Amber DID win, but CBS intervened. (I'm sorry, but nobody will convince me otherwise). Rob and Amber were the only team on that flight out, and the plane had started to pull away from the tarmac. Uchenna and Joyce ultimatley MISSED that flight, because the door was closed and the tarmac was being pulled back. The next thing we see, is the plane backing up, the tarmac being sent back out, and WAHLAH...the producers now have a foot race to the finish line. (had Rob and Amber been on the only team on that flight, they could have walked across the finish line). Rob said it right when he was on Regis and Kelly later that week, American Airlines owes them a million dollars, and it's true. They raced like no other team in the history of the show had ever raced. they brought a whole new strategy into the game, that quite frankly was very entertaining. (remember how Rob convinced the teams to take a penalty and not finish eating that disgusting meat?)

Russell is all talk, and IMO, he is just lucky. There is no way he is a better game player than Rob. I don't think anyone is. I am someone who HATED Rob in his 1st two season's of Survivor. But after his appearance on AR, I have a whole new respect for him, that no other reality star can match. It just amazes me how intelligent he is.

Russell pulling one over Tyson does not mean he outsmarted Rob, because if Tyson had gone to Rob and TOLD HIM what Russell had said, Rob would have seen right through it. Why didn't Russell tell Rob he was voting for Parvati? If he really wants to come out as better than Rob, then he needs to pull something like this on Rob himself, and see how far he gets. He won't, because he would be chewed up and spit out...by Rob. Russell took a chance. He won, because Tyson is as dumb as a rock. There is no way that means he outwitted Rob..no way.

Huh? Finding immunity idols without a clue is "All Talk"?

There have been many winners of Survivor who have not been the best at challenges - Sandra for example.

Rob is a great player but Russell is better.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

Huh? Finding immunity idols without a clue is "All Talk"?

It means he knows the game. He knew the game has a history of hiding immunity idols, so he looked for them. Some people might suggest he had a bit of help in that area. *wink* *wink*

What I mean by all talk, is every word out of Russell's mouth is how great a player he is. I don't think he is a great player. Yes, he is good at the game, but some of the strategies he has taken, required quite a bit of luck, and he just got lucky. He was lucky that Tyson did not go to Rob and tell him what Russell said to him, because had Rob known about Russell's plan, he would have been the one snuffing his torch, and not Tyson.

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Rob is a great player but Russell is better.

That's what you say.

 

[jrmasm]

I don't really have an opinion about whether Russell or Rob is the best player. I do KNOW that Russell is way more entertaining than Rob.

 

[The Iron Giant]

They need to have an all-stars survivor edition of the amazing race...

Team up Russell and Parvati, Amanda and James, JT and Stephen, Coach and Jerri, etc.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

They need to have an all-stars survivor edition of the amazing race...

Team up Russell and Parvati, Amanda and James, JT and Stephen, Coach and Jerri, etc.

NO! I got it! They need to have a Russell vs. Rob Survivor! They each get to hand pick 7 players for their team, no hidden immunity idols, let's go back to the real gruel of Survivor. (Season's 1-4 were pretty harsh, then they started getting soft).

 

[dejr_8]

It means he knows the game. He knew the game has a history of hiding immunity idols, so he looked for them. Some people might suggest he had a bit of help in that area. *wink* *wink*

What I mean by all talk, is every word out of Russell's mouth is how great a player he is. I don't think he is a great player. Yes, he is good at the game, but some of the strategies he has taken, required quite a bit of luck, and he just got lucky. He was lucky that Tyson did not go to Rob and tell him what Russell said to him, because had Rob known about Russell's plan, he would have been the one snuffing his torch, and not Tyson.

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That's what you say.

So now there is a Conspiracy Theory about Russell finding hidden immunity idols??? All I can say is WOW!

 

[parrotbay]

They need to have an all-stars survivor edition of the amazing race...

Team up Russell and Parvati, Amanda and James, JT and Stephen, Coach and Jerri, etc.

I've been saying this for a couple of years. They to have a Big Brother All-Stars Survivor and a Survivor All-stars Big Brother. Same with the Amazing Race.

I'd still like to see a Celebrity Survivor, Amazing Race & Big Brother.

 

[DMRick]

I wondered last season, if they have the camera's follow and when Russell got closer, more camera's came (for more angles), and he realized he was close, and spent more time looking. It was said either in Jeff's blog or on the last show of last season, that Russell spent a very large amount of time looking, and we only saw a little of it, so that it appeared he had a way of just going to the area and finding it.

I don't care for him, but I love how he keeps Rob on his toes..it's going to be hard to get Russell out, since he's so good at manipulating people.

No hints at all, but I will say I will never look at a cheat list again. It really runined it for me 'knowing' who is leaving before watching each week. So, if you are tempted..don't do it . Those watching with me wish I didn't know either, because it's hard to not make comments during the show now.

 

[travelbug24]

No hints at all, but I will say I will never look at a cheat list again. It really runined it for me 'knowing' who is leaving before watching each week. So, if you are tempted..don't do it . Those watching with me wish I didn't know either, because it's hard to not make comments during the show now.

I agree - ruined the fun of watching and being surprised at the blindsides.

 

[PlutosFriend]

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ on the Amazing Race. In my mind, he and Amber DID win, but CBS intervened. (I'm sorry, but nobody will convince me otherwise). Rob and Amber were the only team on that flight out, and the plane had started to pull away from the tarmac. Uchenna and Joyce ultimatley MISSED that flight, because the door was closed and the tarmac was being pulled back. The next thing we see, is the plane backing up, the tarmac being sent back out, and WAHLAH...the producers now have a foot race to the finish line. (had Rob and Amber been on the only team on that flight, they could have walked across the finish line). Rob said it right when he was on Regis and Kelly later that week, American Airlines owes them a million dollars, and it's true. They raced like no other team in the history of the show had ever raced. they brought a whole new strategy into the game, that quite frankly was very entertaining. (remember how Rob convinced the teams to take a penalty and not finish eating that disgusting meat?)

Russell is all talk, and IMO, he is just lucky. There is no way he is a better game player than Rob. I don't think anyone is. I am someone who HATED Rob in his 1st two season's of Survivor. But after his appearance on AR, I have a whole new respect for him, that no other reality star can match. It just amazes me how intelligent he is.

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I agree with everything you said, although I have loved Rob since the first time I saw him on Survivor! I was SO mad about that Amazing Race. R & A should have won that! Rob is good at all of the challenges on Survivor. Some of the players are so lame when it comes to the challenges. Rupert is bugging me. He could go and I wouldn't care. I don't care for Russell. Yuck.