Suddenly Canada looks so small.

Please forgive my complete ignorance - I don't venture out of the resort and DVC boards much, and haven't been to WDW in almost a year (going next month and CAN'T WAIT)!!! What is the new Soarin' attraction? I'm sure I read something about it because the name is familiar, but don't recall what it is or when it's opening...????
 
It is an attraction (probably the most popular) from Disney's California Adventure park that is being built inside the Land pavilion at Epcot. It is a extremely well done solid D-ticket in my opinion that offers a relaxing journey over the varied terrain of California. It is expected to open it late 2005.
 
Really Show, you don't consider this a solid "E" ??? I know it loses a lot of "wow" after the first ride, but my family found that 1st ride absolutely mind blowing and the subsequent rides, while not as titilating, still very, very good.
pirate:
 
E+. We rode it over and over, at least 8 times in 3 days, and never got tired of it.

Carla
 

I gotta agree with the Captian, Show...

Soarin' *still* gets a round of applause when it ends, even from the jaded Southern Californians. That's gotta move it into the E-ticket category.

Sarangel
 
Gotta go with the crowd here. I rate it an E. Not an e+ like pirates or Tot, but a solid E.
 
Originally posted by OnWithTheShow
It is an attraction (probably the most popular) from Disney's California Adventure park that is being built inside the Land pavilion at Epcot. It is a extremely well done solid D-ticket in my opinion that offers a relaxing journey over the varied terrain of California. It is expected to open it late 2005.
D Ticket? Oh, I don't agree with that at all! The following were D Ticket rides in the old ticket days:

Rocket Jets
PeopleMover
Flight to the Moon
Skyway
Tom Sawyer Island Rafts
Davy Crockett's Explorer Canoes
WDW Railroad
Columbia Sailing Ship
Mark Twain Steamboat

There is no way that Soarin' fits on that list! It's miles above (literally and figuratively :p) !

:earsboy:
 
I think it is a D ticket myself. I personally don't think there are any E tickets at DCA except for It's tough to be a Bug.
 
Wow daannzzz, we have plenty of disagreements as I see "E" ticket written all over (1) Soarin' (2) GRRR (3) Cali Screamin' (4) ITTBAB, & soon (5) ToT at DCA. Irregardless, I think Soarin' will be a huge hit at Epcot be in over California or America...
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Soarin is my favorite attraction at DCA. I just can't justify giving it an E because of the lack of theme in the queue and ride system and the lack of a cohesive enthralling storyline throughout the attraction.
 
It is a sad day when a large steel coaster themed as a wood coaster but no other themeing is considered a Disney E-ticket. I wouldn't even consider it a Six Flags E-ticeck. It is a fun coaster though.
Grizzly River Rapids almost makes E-ticket as it is fun but they just didn't plus it enough. Had they forgone the Winery and used that space for some spectacular indoor scenes then it would maybe make the cut.
Just because something is a D ticket and not and E ticket does not mean it is bad in any form.
I also think Soaring over (insert prediction here) at Epcot will do well.
 
Originally posted by OnWithTheShow
Soarin is my favorite attraction at DCA. I just can't justify giving it an E because of the lack of theme in the queue and ride system and the lack of a cohesive enthralling storyline throughout the attraction.
Well ... original E-tickets at Disneyland included the Mule Rides and the Monorail ... and neither of those had theme in the queue or a cohesive enthralling storyline. Whereas C-tickets like Peter Pan's Flight, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, and Snow White's Adventures had both of those things.

I think Imagineers chose E ticket rides as those that had more originality or were likely to have a higher "adventure" or "imagination" quotient. They were the rides that were themed on original stories as opposed to existing fairy tales or Disney stories. E-tickets were things like IASW, Matterhorn, Jungle Cruise, Pirates, Country Bears and Haunted Mansion. I will agree that Haunted Mansion is more tricked out than Peter Pan's Flight, but if an E-ticket requires a cohesive storyline, then why were the Matterhorn and the Pack Mules there?

:earsboy:
 
***"It is a sad day when a large steel coaster themed as a wood coaster but no other themeing is considered a Disney E-ticket."***

I don't quite no how to explain it, but the "wood" coaster is the theme for this park. Sure it's steel made to look like wood, but have you ever been on a wood coaster that performs like this steel clone ?

The theme IMO is retro amusement pier with advanced versions of old rides. I'm certain the theming could have been done much better but at a much larger price tag.
 
IMO, the ticket designations in the past had a lot to do with operational costs. Not just the "coolness" of the ride experience. DL charged more for rides that were expensive to build or expensive to operate. This is why things like the Monorail and the Pack Mules were E-tickets. On the other side, you had something like Adventures thru Inner Space which had Monsanto footing the bill, so even though it was similar in operationally to the HM, they didn't have to charge an E-ticket price.

If Disney were still using the ticket book system, I have no doubt that Soarin' would be an E-ticket, due to the operational costs associated with the ride system. However, they don't use ticket books anymore, so any future "Is this an E-ticket?" questions are going to revolve around the "coolness" factor.

My own personal classification of attractions:

E: These are the attractions that are always ambitious (for the time they were built), enjoyable and impressive. Just being fun isn't enough, just being ambitious isn't enough, just looking or sounding impressive isn't enough.

D: These are the attractions that are usually enjoyable but not always ambitious or impressive. I consider RnRC to be a D ticket. It's a fun coaster, but I don't think the ride is as ambitious or impressive as it needs to be to bump it up to an E-ticket. Ditto for Screamin'.

C: Attractions that tend to be enjoyable and sometimes impressive but not very ambitious.

B: Similar to C, but a notch below in those 3 categories.

A: Things that can be classified as attractions, but are more about providing atmosphere for the surrounding area.

I consider Soarin' a D. I enjoy the sensation of the ride, but the film is on the blah side. The pre-ride buildup, or lack thereof really hurts the attraction, IMO.
 
"""I don't quite no how to explain it, but the "wood" coaster is the theme for this park. Sure it's steel made to look like wood, but have you ever been on a wood coaster that performs like this steel clone ? """
For it being a steel coaster themed as a wooden coaster. I think they did a great job. But the theme of a wooden coaster is not enough to make it special. Sure it fits the Pier theme and the Pier is pretty when viewing it across the lake at night. I just don't think they should have put this themed section into the park. It should have been at the Boardwalk Inn and Villas with rides on a pay per ride basis. That would have worked fine for me but still not made an E-ticket out of that particular coaster.
 
Just for kicks, when we were at Epcot today I took a couple pictures from Italy to compare to the one in the first post. They look very similar except for the fact that they were taken at different times of day. I was using a regular lens with mine.
 
I took almost this same exact shot with my 130 zoom fully extended. I think I was standing between Germany and Italy for the shot. I was standing at the edge of the lagoon.
 
I looked for it again last weekend, and from Italy, the contruction of the covering looks "completed." Not that it is, but it's at least a full dome.

I think it's always going to be pretty noticeable. I'll try to get another shot when we go back to Epcot on the 24th.
 












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