SSR Points Rise

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Anyone noticing the meteoric rise in the price of SSR resale since the refurbishment is complete? It looks like the price is up 30% over the past 7 months (an estimate on my part - may be wrong - don't @ me). If my estimate is right I credit a large part of it to the refurb and the conversion of the sofa-sleeper into a Murphy bed and the smaller under-TV Murphy bed.

It looks like other resales have been rising as well.

For those that have been around DVC much longer than I have I'd be interested to know what you think of these price increases at SSR and other DVC resorts.

Is it me or does it feel like DVC is quickly leaving the middle class behind and turning into a prestige nameplate (even for resale).
 
I think all prices have raised at about the same rate.

We bought our first contract at CC earlier this year (Feb/March) and the listed price per point has increased by $30-40 for similar contracts to ours since then (now running around $170-ish or so).

I think it is just supply and demand, coupled with a hot travel market right now.
 
I think prices have gone up across the board as people are now able to travel and, for those who remained employed during the pandemic, some folks are able to finally spend that cash they would have spent last year on a vacation on DVC, leading to a lot more pulling of the purchase trigger.

That said, SSR is a lot more attractive today than it has been in awhile with the maturing of the Disney Springs concept and the room refurbs.
 

Said it before but SSR is still the lowest price out there and its just that the lowest price of entry for DVC is getting raised at WDW. Also helps that every search you do for "cheapest DVC" will result in articles and discussion on how you should buy SSR.

Saratoga will no longer be the resort of last resort

Make a bet on that? SSR will always be the last resort left because AKV is an amazing resort in itself (especially for renters) and OKW is smaller with lower point charts.
 
Make a bet on that? SSR will always be the last resort left because AKV is an amazing resort in itself (especially for renters) and OKW is smaller with lower point charts.

Agree - also the sheer size:

OKW - 0 Dedicated Studios - 0 Dedicated 1Bdrm - 274 Dedicated 2Bdrm - 230 Lockoffs - 27 Grand Villas = 531 Villas / 761 Max. Available

SSR - 0 Dedicated Studios - 0 Dedicated 1Bdrm - 360 Dedicated 2Bdrm - 432 Lockoffs - 60 THV - 36 Grand Villas = 888 Villas / 1320 Max. Available

AKV - 46 Dedicated Studios - 0 Dedicated 1BR villas - 140 Dedicated 2BR villas - 250 Lockoffs - 22 GVs. 134 villas within Jambo House at AKL (46 Dedicated Studios, 82 Lockoff 2BRs, 6 GVs) and 324 villas in Kidani Village (140 Dedicated 2BRs, 168 Lockoff 2BRs, 16 GVs) for a total of 458 Villas / 708 Max. Available
 
We intentionally purchased SSR over 12 years ago because of access to DTD.

My kids are now 27 and 23 but we knew they would get older and having DTD in our backyard at night and on holidays and not having to deal with buses made it very attractive to us. A change from the hustle and bustle from the parks is also very attractive.
Added on top of that, we purchased our points resale at $67 per point and have stayed at most DVC resorts (VGF and BWVs are our favorite after SSR) multiple times using those cheap points.

When my dh and I stayed in an SSR GV last November with two other couples for our 30th wedding anniversary, I absolutely loved the new refurb and thought the same thing as xWilliam that it may be harder to book SSR in the future.

Then, when they announced the Briterail may be going to DTD (although now not sure if that is the case, I really don't follow it), I thought wow, another plus, being so close.

Either way, we love our SSR points and happy we purchased there for the price we did at the time.
 
Make a bet on that? SSR will always be the last resort left because AKV is an amazing resort in itself (especially for renters) and OKW is smaller with lower point charts.

Perhaps. But if I had a choice to book AKV or SSR, today, being in my 50s and having adult kids, I would book SSR over AKV (I just did last November since we wanted to walk back/forth from DTD for drinks and dinner in the evenings without having to wait on any transportation). SSR is also (I believe) much bigger than AKL but I really don't have numbers. While some think AKVs is amazing, others think it is way too far from other parks with nothing else around it (me included). That is the beauty of DVC, we have so much to chose from.
 
I have had ssr since they opened.over half my points is in ssr 305 out of 555 . I only stay in ssr when I have to. Only three times in all of them years. Treehouses is very nice . Hopefully it got better like people said.
 
SSR is also (I believe) much bigger than AKL

Rooms:
670 AKV vs 1260 SSR

think it is way too far from other parks with nothing else around it (me included)

I mean what is around SSR? You have a nice open air mall with good food options. While you talk possibly a very long walk down to Disney Springs in the evening they can walk to Victoria Falls as an example or have a drink in front of the fire.

Neither one is close to the parks in the end even.

That is the beauty of DVC, we have so much to chose from.

Exactly and some people liked SSR more than anywhere else even before any changes. My point simply is that even with room updates SSR will always be at the bottom for various reasons. If the rest of AKL moved to AKV then I might change my story.

Big things going for AKV being taken before SSR:
  • Less rooms
  • Savanna, Club, Value Room and the rooms less desirable (Standard) are less points than anything at SSR plus have a shot still at a partial savana room
  • Larger Rooms, larger capacity, more bathrooms (Kidani 1br/2br)
  • Is viewed by a larger number of people as the best resort stay resort as its not something you can get elsewhere in the US
  • More likely to be rented by non-dvc members because it screams "Disney magic"
  • AKV longer contract than SSR
None of this means SSR is bad or worse than AKV though just that demand compared to capacity is a higher percentage with AKV. Its also why you see a slight bump in price of AKV over SSR. So with AKV prices going crazy you now have SSR jumping since people are willing to take the savings and just buy SSR over AKV when comparing.
 
Resale prices have gone up about 20 to 40 dollars per point over the last year. SSR is right in the middle of that at about 33, so I don't think it's gone up unusually so compared to the other resorts.
 
some folks are able to finally spend that cash they would have spent last year on a vacation on DVC
...our spent on dinners out. Or the daily cappuccino and scone. Or gas for the commute. Or. Or. Or.

The upper ~ 20% of the SES ladder has a lot of unspent cash from the pandemic. A *lot*.
 
Also, another reason for the SSR rise is the buybacks from Disney in ROFR. We bought direct in February, we saw our guide in June and he said they couldn't keep SSR points and had none in their bank right now, so they had really had to push OKW as "their cheaper" option lately.
 
Said it before but SSR is still the lowest price out there and its just that the lowest price of entry for DVC is getting raised at WDW. Also helps that every search you do for "cheapest DVC" will result in articles and discussion on how you should buy SSR.



Make a bet on that? SSR will always be the last resort left because AKV is an amazing resort in itself (especially for renters) and OKW is smaller with lower point charts.
Well no, SSR is not the lowest price out there. OKW and BRV resale is cheaper than SSR to purchase. OKW direct is the cheapest. Pretty soon RIV direct will be. SSR wins or is in the top of cost per point per year of contract remaining. SSR will always be the last resort to fill up do to its size. The last three to fill up are AKV, OKW and SSR. 3rd largest, 2nd largest and 1st largest resorts. If SSR only had 200 rooms it would go fast. Heck there are very limited rooms at other high demand resorts that can picked up at 7 months a lot. Like BLT 1 bedroom standard. BWV 1 bedroom standard and sometimes even AKL 1 bedroom value.
Will SSR book up faster after the refurbishment? Yes. Will it be the last to book up completely? Yes, due to its size. Will you be able to get a studio there at 4 months? Nope, maybe a day here or there. For most of the year they will be gone by 6 months.
With the addition of VGF2, will it make it easier for non VGF members to get a studio? Yuppp. Adding 200 studios to VGF is going to be a game changer.
 
SSR wins or is in the top of cost per point per year of contract remaining.

The cheapest.... Which was the whole point.

OKW direct just now became the cheapest direct in the last 2 months and likely will remain cheaper direct since they will actively try to flip as much of the 2042 to 2057 as possible.

The last three to fill up are AKV, OKW and SSR. 3rd largest, 2nd largest and 1st largest resorts. If SSR only had 200 rooms it would go fast.

All not attached to parks and as I called out SSR is still the last to fill up and that's not changing. I even stated if AKV had more rooms or as you state SSR had 200 rooms then things might change.

Booking up last means those on the edge of AKV vs SSR as an example get more benefit from their home resort benefit at AKV. Thus bumping price slightly on AKV.

Will you be able to get a studio there at 4 months? Nope, maybe a day here or there. For most of the year they will be gone by 6 months.

Covid doesn't help availability and much of the year you can still get in there at 7 months especially since with the sheer number of rooms you have more likelihood of waitlists with people buying the cheapest DVC (SSR) to try and get in other resorts.

With the addition of VGF2, will it make it easier for non VGF members to get a studio? Yuppp. Adding 200 studios to VGF is going to be a game changer.

Like with SSR refurb though while it's "easier" or "harder" to get rooms it's nothing of great consequence especially when you consider the premium people will be buying VGF at along with only being 200 rooms.

Also easier to get VGF studios means easier to get SSR studios as demand rolls up the resort food chain.
 
. . . Then, when they announced the Briterail may be going to DTD (although now not sure if that is the case, I really don't follow it), I thought wow, another plus, being so close.

I had not even thought about the potential impact of the Brightline train coming into DS (I still think of it as DTD too). I have read the station will be in the Orange garage.

That will make SSR even more popular.
 
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I think the rise and interest in SSR was value as others had pointed out. We purchased in March last year and closed during the early stages of the pandemic. At that time SSR was clearly the best value as they had some of the lowest dues, have a longer term than BRV and AKV, had a full refurb pending and were on par with/slightly cheaper than the aforementioned.

Others most likely were on this same mind set, and you commonly see other owners buy additional contracts at SSR and use them as "sleep around" points.

Some people may have had their minds sent on some other home resorts but are studio vacationers. Seeing people talking about the lack of studio availability at 11 months could have also drive them to take that same money and get more points and open the doors to longer stays or 1BR stays.
 
Just to add to what everyone is saying about SSR: We purchased it when it first opened at $95 a point because of DTD. Our kids were pre-teens at that time and we knew they would want to go to DTD at night in just a few years. Now, almost twenty years later, we are taking them and our grandchildren back to SSR this October. I asked them which resort they wanted me to book at and they resoundingly said SSR :-)

As a side note, I just recently purchased a small VGF contract so my wife and I can do a getaway trip once a year. We've always liked the VGF as adults.
 













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