I think it is oversaturated, but i love more choices for me, so saturate away lol
I would actually bet the opposite, that RIV average resale price will never start getting below avg SSR/OKW levels. I think RIV resale will actually increase once RIV sells out and DVC become more likely to ROFR it and the direct sold out price increases.
I have actually thought this is true as well. Buying resale when you can buy direct RIV just doesnt make much sense for most. But if you cant buy RIV direct then resale is the only option and think that will make the price increase a bit.
Yep.
The key is that you will really be "stuck" at RIV... but you are not really "stuck" at SSR or OKW. Even in 2042 you will still be able to book 7 properties (VGC, OKW, SSR, CCV, Poly, AKV and BLT) which provides a whole lot more rooms. Theres is value in having options specially for last minute bookings.
I meannn it's a pretty big difference to increase the duration that it's been selling in conversation by 50 percent when trying to make a point when it already has been impacted by COVID especially when you're talking about interest but regardless your point is taken.
Agreed, people seem to forget that the main driver of sales is always price per point, restrictions or not. Anecdotal evidence but I watch youtubers say they bought so and so resort because it saved them like 5 dollars per point over another and were like well I can use these points anywhere at 7 months anyways. I'm willing to bet most people don't study the availability charts or even the point charts typically. The people that make it to this website have at least done enough research to get here which is not most people.
My point is that being "stuck" at RIV would be comparable to staying at the "better" resorts on that list and much better than being actually stuck at SSR/OKW for a number of trips, which would IMO be quite likely over the life of the contracts. RIV has good dining and easy access to 2 parks. You could always just buy a small RIV contract to add onto any other resorts you own and not actually be stuck at only RIV at all...
Have you stayed yet??
I'm not sure how much expansion there will be with DVC in California. There will be some. But presently, Disney can sell all the rooms on the cash side out most weekends, which I believe is more profitable than DVC. In Florida, where there's near endless land, it's more beneficial to have guests locked into a DVC option. Add in this: Disneyland is not a destination resort. The vast majority of people drive in and home the same day. Those that stay, probably two days max. Hence, the slow sales at VDH.
Havent stayed at any of the 3 but have visited all. If I was stressed and upset just visiting SSR/OKW via bus on a leisurely non theme park day I cannot imagine staying there and visiting the parks. RIV I have been to multiple times. I havent taken their bus yet but I would think it's very similar to BCV/BWV bus and possibly better than those routes due to a dedicated bus.
This is mostly going to affect the EPCOT neighborhood, which will increase demand on RIV.
Have you considered Lyft? We used it on our last trip… it was cheap and fast.
Take this for what it's worth, but I find OWK far, far more inviting than SSR--especially if you stay near the hospitality house. It feels more removed. It's where a lot of OG DVC people tend to hang out. It's secluded. I like the pool. Plus there are the boats. To me, SSR always feels like a big condo development next to a big mall--and very, very urban. It's true about the limitation of busses. But the vibe at OWK is very different than that of SSR.
People only focus on the loss of hotels affecting availability. It’s balanced out by entire rosters of point owners evaporating over night. That’s millions of points (resale and direct) leaving the system.
