Spring Direct Incentives 2/9-4/27

As best I can tell, looks like VGF is the one "sold-out" resort that saw a price increase - from $265 to $275 per point. Joins BCV and BLT as the most expensive resorts to buy direct.
I wonder if HHI,VB, BRV, or VGC prices were raised?
I cannot see them on the add on tool.
(Last time I saw their prices were 165,150,215,and330 in that order?)
 
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CFW looks to be about the same as last cycle, assuming they will still offer MB at 150 points or more. Trying to interpret that... maybe it means they don't see a reason to further incentivize CFW if they are going to combine it with LSL anyway and don't want to imply desperation ahead of that announcement... or maybe they are just dumb and cannot figure out that people don't want to buy CFW unless the price is much lower.

Wonder if D23 membership will provide another $500 off this round...
 

Comparing Poly from last incentive period to now, the total price has gone up as everyone speculated. Last period it was $235/pt but at the 150 pt level had $9/pt incentive ($1350) plus $500 off for D23 members (free with Disney+). Making it $33400 for 150 pts.

Now it's $243/pt and at the 150 pt level it's an $8/pt incentive ($1200) plus $1000 off for the 35th Anniversary. If there are no other incentives, that is $34250. Equalling $850 more.
 
CFW looks to be about the same as last cycle, assuming they will still offer MB at 150 points or more. Trying to interpret that... maybe it means they don't see a reason to further incentivize CFW if they are going to combine it with LSL anyway and don't want to imply desperation ahead of that announcement... or maybe they are just dumb and cannot figure out that people don't want to buy CFW unless the price is much lower.

Wonder if D23 membership will provide another $500 off this round...

Third option is that they are selling well enough on the cash side that there is no need to rush into another declaration, especially if the intent is to make LSL and CFW part of the same RTU plan.
 
Trying to interpret that... maybe it means they don't see a reason to further incentivize CFW if they are going to combine it with LSL anyway and don't want to imply desperation ahead of that announcement... or maybe they are just dumb and cannot figure out that people don't want to buy CFW unless the price is much lower.
There is a third option.

They were replacing the cabins one way or the other. Not folding them into DVC means renting them. Folding them into DVC and selling them slowly means renting sligjhtly fewer, and may recover capex slightly more quickly, wtihout sacrificing pricing integrity for the timeshare product.

That said, my opinion is that the cabins were always supposed to be part of LSL, with the original plan of adding them shortly after LSL came online. This is similar to the pattern that SSR followed with the treehouses. But the covid lockdown and travel pause forced DVD to (a) reverse the order in which they opened and (b) do the cheap GFV flip to fill the bubble in the inventory pipeline.
 
So here's the breakdown for what I purchased a week ago.

160 points at VDH.
Base price was $245 per point. $23 off brought that down to $222 per point.
Plus $1500 off for the Disneyland 70th.

Compared to now...
Base price $248 per point. $24 off brings it down to $224 per point.
Plus $1000 off.

So we definitely saved more by purchasing on the last incentives. $2 less per point plus an additional $500.

Not a massive difference ($820) but I'll take it.
 
There is a third option.

They were replacing the cabins one way or the other. Not folding them into DVC means renting them. Folding them into DVC and selling them slowly means renting sligjhtly fewer, and may recover capex slightly more quickly, wtihout sacrificing pricing integrity for the timeshare product.

That said, my opinion is that the cabins were always supposed to be part of LSL, with the original plan of adding them shortly after LSL came online. This is similar to the pattern that SSR followed with the treehouses. But the covid lockdown and travel pause forced DVD to (a) reverse the order in which they opened and (b) do the cheap GFV flip to fill the bubble in the inventory pipeline.
I also think DVC looks at monthly/quarterly sales for all actively selling resorts as a whole and adjust the prices for their different 'products' accordingly. They are likely tracking individual resort sales and have goals for them too but not the way others think about each individual resort sales.
 
SSR Pricing


Looks like the only way to get information is to contact a guide. From recent reports, if you do this, it will start a 7-day clock and DVC MIGHT refuse a sale after that point, although it may also be that you only get one 7-day clock per incentive period, and as long as you are willing to say "yes" prior to the end of incentives being available, you could still secure the sale (reports vary).
This is the craziest thing I have ever heard…. If DVC will not sell products to you after learning about the incentives for 7 days, that is absurd… and makes me question what other ridiculous things they might be doing…

As a potential buyer, it would really turn me off…
 
I think they just don’t allow you to get “another 7 days”. As it’s something new, it’s easy for some guides to communicate it in a way that might be misunderstood.
What do you mean by “another 7 days” it is a readily available national promotion…
 
Guides are telling people that they only get one tour and one chance during an incentive cycle to buy. After that 7 day window closes they have to wait until the next incentive cycle to buy.

I'm aware of someone on these boards who switched to my guide and toured PVB last incentive period and was told after the 7-day period that her hands were tied and they could not purchase until the next incentive period.

What a stunning departure from the way DVC has traditionally been sold - this high pressure sales tactic looks more like something you hear about in other countries where they drive you to another sales location and put things in your drink. I thought DVD was above that kind of petty nonsense.

I do understand the concept of getting the sale while the iron is hot, and you don't want people leaving to "think about it", but this looks a lot more desperate than the relaxed attitude of years past where the "math" of savings vs cash room rates was self-evident enough to sell points.
 
What a stunning departure from the way DVC has traditionally been sold - this high pressure sales tactic looks more like something you hear about in other countries where they drive you to another sales location and put things in your drink. I thought DVD was above that kind of petty nonsense.

I do understand the concept of getting the sale while the iron is hot, and you don't want people leaving to "think about it", but this looks a lot more desperate than the relaxed attitude of years past where the "math" of savings vs cash room rates was self-evident enough to sell points.
“If you are already a member don’t walk into the store unless you want to buy….”

That’s gonna cause a lot of people to schedule with a guide just before the incentives change. Poor logistics planning.
 
One thing I found interesting on the cruise. Guide first started trying to sell us CFW. Then, wanted to sell us RIV. After I mentioned our age and knowing we would sell it 15+ years, he tried CCV (because it had or maybe still has a promotion). Then, he went into PVB and price comparisons.

Some of his lines were more used car sales tactics, but I didn’t feel like wasting any time poking holes in his statements because we were on a cruise. Sadly, most don’t know better and will trust anything these guides say. If he were our regular guide, I would be changing guides. I don’t like guides who aren’t entirely honest.
 
In line to meet Russell and Dug and checked my email and it said save $10,500!! I thought hmm that looks like a higher number than I normally get emails for. So popped over here to see what happened. Congrats tho those who saved by buying last incentive.
 











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