Sports: Deflate-Gate

[TAX GUY]

It's also believed they may have illegally taped the Rams practices prior to the 2001 Super Bowl - which of course came down to the final play of the game.

Hush...... that's just hearsay

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

They checked the balls throughout the game and switch them out as they get low, worn, whatever, right?

So why does Jackson feel the ball is low and give it to his equipment manager? Why wouldn't he just tell the refs?
The Colts complained about this previously and nothing was done. Honestly it really seems like a non rule, rule, one that's there but in general they let it go within reason.
This time the Colts get a ball as proof, and have an Indianapolis sports reporter tweet it out so it will get attention.

I think he gave it to him to mark Ball #, so that he could get the ball after the game. I think they are entitled to that becasue he intercepted.

 

[sunshinehighway]

I think he gave it to him to mark Ball #, so that he could get the ball after the game. I think they are entitled to that becasue he intercepted.

According to the leaked out information, which is really all anyone is going on, he have the equipment guy the ball to check it out because it felt low.

 

[TAX GUY]

Brady is set for his conference at 3:45...


EDIT: now read bumped to 4:15

 

[Geoff_M]

Brady is set for his conference at 3:45...


EDIT: now read bumped to 4:15

I predict "I have no knowledge of what happened to the balls on Sunday", and then everyone's eyes move off of Brady and to the next stop down the line: the team's Ball Boys. Safe bet???

 

[TAX GUY]

I predict "I have no knowledge of what happened to the balls on Sunday", and then everyone's eyes move off of Brady and to the next stop down the line: the team's Ball Boys. Safe bet???

Sort of..... should be more like "I prefer the footballs on the softer side however I did not myself nor did I instruct anyone to set the footballs at the psi they were measured at. On game day, we are focused at the task at hand. The feel of a pound or two isn't enough to notice. With varying outdoor conditions and inflation levels, each ball feels slightly different from the next, week after week and practice to practice."

In short, he's not taking the blame nor admitting to anything.

 

[JanaDee]

I predict "I have no knowledge of what happened to the balls on Sunday", and then everyone's eyes move off of Brady and to the next stop down the line: the team's Ball Boys. Safe bet???

I think that is a pretty safe bet. Someone else will take the fall.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Why is it psi, anyway? A football is three-dimensional. Shouldn't it be pounds [per] cubic inch?

 

[Geoff_M]

Why is it psi, anyway? A football is three-dimensional. Shouldn't it be pounds [per] cubic inch?

Actually I think that is correct.... pressure is measured as a force against a surface.

 

[Airship Ariadne]

Why is it psi, anyway? A football is three-dimensional. Shouldn't it be pounds [per] cubic inch?

Nope...it is the weight of the pressure of the air if it was pressing down on a square inch flat...it is not a volume measurement which would be cubic inch.

 

[lustergirl]

So you believe this is all "haters gonna hate" and that the 11 underinflated balls are ok and not cheating?

Sorry, but I have a huge problem with that. I don't care who the team is - cheating is cheating. If it is confirmed by the league that the Patriots intentionally deflated the balls below the league minimum then they absoutely deserve severe punishment. Especially since this isn't the first time they have been caught cheating. It is not an issue of hating, it is an issue of right, wrong, and cheating.

As for the Colts still losing? So what? Does that make the cheating ok? Cheating is only bad if it changes the outcome of the game? No, cheating is cheating.

And the QBs that like to scruff their balls, have high or low pressure, I'm assuming that these are within the confines of the league rules therefore are not cheating and not a point of which to argue.

Oh don't get your panties in a bunch Just another controversial subject for people and media to blow out of proportion. It's always something.

And out come the moral police. What exactly do you think is going to happen? If proven they will be fined like before and everyone moves on.

 

[lustergirl]

The Broncos are benefitting from the Patriot scandal.

A local sportscaster reported last night that knowing he could deflate balls helped Peyton make his final decision to play one more season.

Nice Finally some humor in such a drastic thread On a side note my son text me last week and "sorry mom but Peyton is retiring." I was at work and bust out into tears. My son was kidding of course but Peyton is my favorite all time player. I know his time is coming but not this moment. I have to mentally prepare myself for that one

 

[EPCOTatNight]

Oh don't get your panties in a bunch Just another controversial subject for people and media to blow out of proportion. It's always something.

And out come the moral police. What exactly do you think is going to happen? If proven they will be fined like before and everyone moves on.

I guarantee it will be more than a fine.

 

[lustergirl]

I'm not taking away the fact that Tom Brady is a terrific quarterback (coming from a Giants fan) but after Belichick was found to be a cheater and fined $500,000 back in 2007 he lost all credibility to me. The Patriots might win, but i'm sure after this last scandal came out about them deflating footballs, alot of people will be rooting for the Seahawks.

Don't see that happening. The Seahawks are not well like either. Too many wannabe thugs on the team.

 

[lustergirl]

I guarantee it will be more than a fine.

We will see. What kind of proof do they have actually?

 

[pat fan]

We will see. What kind of proof do they have actually?

Right now? None.

 

[lustergirl]

Right now? None.

So whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Right now it is just pure speculation but America's opinion has been decided. Just another rumor to start hysteria. I wonder if it was started by the Seahawks

 

[pat fan]

So whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

It's the Patriots. There's a lot of hate because people like to hate who's been on top, and we've been on top a loooong time. Since 2001 we've been in the top mix, and I understand that can be annoying. Do I like people knocking my team because they're good? No, but it's a sorta free country, so go ahead. I don't like cheating, and I hope they find zero evidence that they did anything to the balls. I know people don't want to hear it, but it could be just one of those things. Either ref oversight, weather, whatever. Crap happens. It didn't decide the game so if there's nothing there, let it go and let's move on.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

It's the Patriots. There's a lot of hate because people like to hate who's been on top, and we've been on top a loooong time. Since 2001 we've been in the top mix, and I understand that can be annoying. Do I like people knocking my team because they're good? No, but it's a sorta free country, so go ahead. I don't like cheating, and I hope they find zero evidence that they did anything to the balls. I know people don't want to hear it, but it could be just one of those things. Either ref oversight, weather, whatever. Crap happens. It didn't decide the game so if there's nothing there, let it go and let's move on.

Being on top plays a part, but the multiple cheating scandals really make it worse. Much worse.

 

[lustergirl]

It's the Patriots. There's a lot of hate because people like to hate who's been on top, and we've been on top a loooong time. Since 2001 we've been in the top mix, and I understand that can be annoying. Do I like people knocking my team because they're good? No, but it's a sorta free country, so go ahead. I don't like cheating, and I hope they find zero evidence that they did anything to the balls. I know people don't want to hear it, but it could be just one of those things. Either ref oversight, weather, whatever. Crap happens. It didn't decide the game so if there's nothing there, let it go and let's move on.

My son is a PATS fan and loves Tom Brady. I love the Broncos and Peyton Manning. So you can just imagine the friction in my house