Spirit Airlines could lay off up to 1583 employees if its pilots go on strike June !

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Spirit Airlines raises the stakes in pilot dispute
Discount carrier says it could shut South Florida operations if union strikes
By Arlene Satchell, Sun Sentinel

6:58 p.m. EDT, May 17, 2010

Miramar-based Spirit Airlines told state and county officials last week that it could cut 1,583 jobs and shut down operations in Broward County if members of the Air Line Pilots Association go on strike.

In two separate notices, the low-cost carrier said that "in the (unlikely) event of an ALPA strike Spirit may close its operations," in Miramar and at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport effective June 12 or shortly thereafter.

"The closure would be permanent and affect our entire operations," it said in the state notices.

The job cuts would affect 306 headquarters employees in Miramar and another 1,277 at its airport facilities, according to the May 12 Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act notices.

The cuts would amount to 69 percent of the airline's workforce.

The layoff warnings, which Spirit termed "contingent," come days after the National Mediation Board declared labor negotiations at an impasse, releasing the parties from mediation and into a 30-day cooling-off period from May 12 to June 12.

Contract negotiations between Spirit and its roughly 500 pilots — members of ALPA — hit a wall last week after nearly three years of failed talks.

On Monday, Capt. Sean Creed, head of the Spirit ALPA unit, said the pilots' union was still "open to negotiation" but was "preparing for a potential strike."

"If we don't get a fair contract, we'll definitely strike," Creed said. "I can't force them [Spirit] to come to the table… the ball's in their court."

Labor disputes are frequently settled during the 30-day cooling off period required by the Railway Labor Act, which governs labor relations at airlines and railroads.

In recent wrangling, the pilots' union has asked for a $30 million commitment to boost salaries and benefits, an investment that it says would be comparable to what other discount carriers are doling out. Spirit in turn has asked for $12 million in pilot concessions for pay and other work-related efficiencies over a five or six-year contract term, Creed told the Sun Sentinel last week.

Spirit spokeswoman Misty Pinson declined further comment Monday.

In a statement last week, the carrier said that it was committed to working with ALPA and intended "to reach an agreement that effectively ensures long-term stability and growth of the company."

Still, Spirit appears to be readying for the worst.

Should the strike occur and no other alternative is found, the discount carrier's decision to close operations June 12 or shortly thereafter would likely affect air travel through Fort Lauderdale.

Spirit is the top carrier with about 18 percent of all passengers. It employs about 2,300 workers, Pinson said.

"There's a lot at stake here. It [a strike] would clearly have an impact," airport spokesman Greg Meyer said Monday.

Meyer said airport contingencies were in place to help displaced passengers in the event of a strike or disrupted air service. He also said there were designated areas for picketing at the airport should the pilots opt to do so.

"We're hopeful there'll be a settlement before June 12," Meyer said.
 
Oh this is not good. We are scheduled to fly spirit from FLL to Bos July 4th. I really hope they get their act together.
 
Exactly what part of $9 airfare screams 'fair and reasonable compensation' to you?
 
Exactly what part of $9 airfare screams 'fair and reasonable compensation' to you?

A profitable airline is looking for pilots to accept concessions. That doesn't sound fair to you?:confused3

Sounds like posturing. A short strike will let Spirit tell their customers they tried to hold the line. Gives them an excuse to try to raise fares.

The problem is the only reason to book Spirit is price. Their CEO has said as much.

Obviously the $9 fare will have to go up. Do you think Spirit's customers would accept a 100% increase to $18? :lmao: Maybe Spirit will keep the $9 fare but charge customers $100/year for access to those fares.
 

The $9 fare is a come-on, sold only to a handful of customers on the least popular flights. Spirit is running at a profit, but largely because its labor cost structure is very low---and this is part of how they get there, by playing hardball with their various unions.

This is just more posturing, and there's already been some. There might be a short strike, but it won't last very long, I'm guessing.
 
They are the lowest paid pilots flying that equipment in the US... but hey, what's a few dollars less? ;)


A profitable airline is looking for pilots to accept concessions. That doesn't sound fair to you?:confused3

Sounds like posturing. A short strike will let Spirit tell their customers they tried to hold the line. Gives them an excuse to try to raise fares.

The problem is the only reason to book Spirit is price. Their CEO has said as much.

Obviously the $9 fare will have to go up. Do you think Spirit's customers would accept a 100% increase to $18? :lmao: Maybe Spirit will keep the $9 fare but charge customers $100/year for access to those fares.
 
The $9 fare is a come-on, sold only to a handful of customers on the least popular flights. Spirit is running at a profit, but largely because its labor cost structure is very low---and this is part of how they get there, by playing hardball with their various unions.

This is just more posturing, and there's already been some. There might be a short strike, but it won't last very long, I'm guessing.


I've got the $9 rate a few times now I dont think it's a come on at all
 
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Depends on how long they have been employed and how many hours they fly. $40 and $65 per hour starting rate for FO's and Capts respectively . Not much when you consider they are limited as to the number of flying hours by the FAA and only guaranteed a minimum in the 70 hours/month range.



And what exactly is their salary?
 
Reminds me of a joke that a then-NWA FA told me during one of their major labor spats:

Q: What's the difference between an airline employee and an extra large pepperoni pizza?
A: The pizza can feed a family of four.
 
I've got the $9 rate a few times now I dont think it's a come on at all

and that rate really worked for Skybus too.

Spirit is universally scorned by ALPA members. FO and Captain rates (excluding first year rates) are half those of competitors flying Airbus 319/320 planes. Turnover is high and most take the job to get hours and experience.
 
Spirit says it will keep flying if pilots strike
(AP) – 16 hours ago

WASHINGTON — Spirit Airlines said it will work with other air carriers to keep flying if its pilots strike on Saturday.

Spirit spokeswoman Misty Pinson said on Tuesday that the airline is "partnering with other air carrier providers to continue to serve our customers." She declined to identify whom Spirit planned to work with, or to say how much of its schedule it will maintain in a strike.

Spirit is negotiating a new contract with its pilots, who are in a 30-day "cooling-off period" mandated by federal law before they can strike or the company locks them out. If there's no deal, the pilots have said they will walk out when the cooling-off period ends at 12:01 a.m. Saturday. The talks are being held in Washington and are guided by the National Mediation Board.

Spirit is a small, privately held carrier based in Miramar, Fla. It operates about 150 flights per day, many of them from the eastern U.S. to Latin America.

Sean Creed, a Spirit captain and the head of its Air Line Pilots Association unit, doubted that the airline had arrangements that would keep it flying through a strike.

"Obviously they're free to replace us according to the law," he said. "I think if they were going to have a plan to continue operation, it would need to have some specific details."

Creed and the airline both said the final issues are pay and work rules.

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