Spin off of age to get married.....My step-daughter is getting married Saturday

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It was interesting to read the best age to get married thread. My step-daughter is getting married on Saturday, and we are not invited. The story is, she is 19 years old and her dad told her he thought she was far too young to get married. She met her fiancee online 2 years ago. They had a Skype relationship until last year when he came to visit and get to know each other better. (He lives 2 hours away) After the visit he proposed to her. Her dad and I feel she is far too young for marriage, partly because she has had a very sheltered life thus far. She has been home-schooled and her only social interactions have been with church friends. She had never even been on a date with anyone until her fiancee came to visit last year. Now they are engaged, they both have part-time jobs, no health insurance (after the wedding she is no longer a dependent) and will begin their marriage living with her mother. When my husband voiced his objections to the marriage, she shut us out of everything. He is heartbroken. Maybe we should have kept our mouths shut and just "go with the flow" but this marriage is a recipe for disaster. Sorry so long..just venting
 
It was interesting to read the best age to get married thread. My step-daughter is getting married on Saturday, and we are not invited. The story is, she is 19 years old and her dad told her he thought she was far too young to get married. She met her fiancee online 2 years ago. They had a Skype relationship until last year when he came to visit and get to know each other better. (He lives 2 hours away) After the visit he proposed to her. Her dad and I feel she is far too young for marriage, partly because she has had a very sheltered life thus far. She has been home-schooled and her only social interactions have been with church friends. She had never even been on a date with anyone until her fiancee came to visit last year. Now they are engaged, they both have part-time jobs, no health insurance (after the wedding she is no longer a dependent) and will begin their marriage living with her mother. When my husband voiced his objections to the marriage, she shut us out of everything. He is heartbroken. Maybe we should have kept our mouths shut and just "go with the flow" but this marriage is a recipe for disaster. Sorry so long..just venting
:hug: Tough one for sure; I'm also not one that can easily sit idle while somebody I love runs head-long into trouble. I don't expect them to automatically do what I tell them but it just doesn't seem right to at least not try to talk sense.

Now that you've done that and the final decision is made, I'd go back and reiterate my unconditional love for the DD. I'm not sure you even want to go to the wedding but you definitely will want to reestablish bonds going forward. Best of luck to all of you.
 
It was interesting to read the best age to get married thread. My step-daughter is getting married on Saturday, and we are not invited. The story is, she is 19 years old and her dad told her he thought she was far too young to get married. She met her fiancee online 2 years ago. They had a Skype relationship until last year when he came to visit and get to know each other better. (He lives 2 hours away) After the visit he proposed to her. Her dad and I feel she is far too young for marriage, partly because she has had a very sheltered life thus far. She has been home-schooled and her only social interactions have been with church friends. She had never even been on a date with anyone until her fiancee came to visit last year. Now they are engaged, they both have part-time jobs, no health insurance (after the wedding she is no longer a dependent) and will begin their marriage living with her mother. When my husband voiced his objections to the marriage, she shut us out of everything. He is heartbroken. Maybe we should have kept our mouths shut and just "go with the flow" but this marriage is a recipe for disaster. Sorry so long..just venting

I personally don't think people should get married before they are 20, but even if she was older with that story (met online, Skype relationship for a year then engaged after one visit, haven't spent long periods of time in each other's company).
However i am sure you both want to be there for her no matter what happens now.
I honk our husband needs to try to talk to his daughter and tell her how much she means to him and how they/she has your support, how you would hate to kiss such an important event in her life and how you would to attend the wedding to support and celebrate with her.
If she doesn't allow it at least do something like send them a wedding gift and her somethibg likes one flowers and a nice note.
You may still not support the marriage but it is happening and if you want to not to be cut out of the rest of her life, future grandchildren, a divorce if it goes that way you need to make steps to make it right now.
 
I think you husband did the right thing by saying something. I'm very sorry that it ended up the way it did because of it, though. However, I think they if she thinks she is responsible enough to get married then she should also be responsible enough to sit down and listen to what her father has to say and be respectful about it. I got engaged at 21 and my parents were less than thrilled. They made it very clear. But my fiancé and I both sat down and talked to them about it and listened to what they had to say. They thought we were rushing and we made it clear we were planning on a long engagement so we could make sure we were set financially, etc. before actually getting married. They never had a problem with him, but finally about 3 years later they are making jokes and coming around to the idea of us finally moving out and actually getting married.

I really hope everything works out!
 

I'm interested: presumably the mother is the one who gave her the sheltered upbringing? What was her reaction to this? I would have expected it to be much worse than your husbands.

There's nothing you can do. I get that you felt the need to say something, but at that age, sometimes they've got to make their own mistakes. It could very well be that the girl doesn't see a foreseeable future that involves full time jobs with benefits. Did your husband really expect her to have that before marriage? I don't really see the difference between being married and unmarried in that situation. (To clarify, I think the relationship sounds doomed, I just think the emphasis you've put on her age and health insurance and living situation is weird).
 
The fact that she cut you guys out over her father giving his opinion shows her level of maturity and maybe she shouldn’t be getting married.

I have made it clear to my children that I would not be happy with them getting married before they are 25. If I felt they were making a huge mistake I would respectfully let them know. If they cut me off over it I would be deeply hurt but there’s no way I could keep my mouth shut.

I made a lot of mistakes with my XH and my mother never said a word. I was young when I met him (married a month after turning 20) and she said she saw the disaster coming but she felt it wasn’t her place to say anything before we got married. Actually none of my family did. They felt it wasn’t their place and they were afraid I would get upset and not speak to them. I hold a tiny bit of resentment over it. Even if I didn’t listen, looking back it would’ve shown that they cared. I don’t get how she could just watch quietly as I was blatantly making a huge mistake. I’m not saying she should’ve tried to stop me but she could have nicely gave her opinion.
 
Your story makes sense for why you are concerned, but I'll be honest I hate how people seem to think that a relationship is doomed due to age.

I got married at 22 yes that is young but we had also been dating for 6 years and had known each other for 4. 2.5 of those years I was away and college and the relationship was long distant. The number of people that said it wouldn't last 6 months was infuriating.

We have now been married over 8 years.
 
The fact that she cut you guys out over her father giving his opinion shows her level of maturity and maybe she shouldn’t be getting married

That assumes that the relationship between father and daughter was healthy otherwise, though. Divorced and remarried? That can leave a lot of scars. Kid homeschooled by mom? That raises a few red flags. It doesn't sound like she's mature, true, but that doesn't necessarily make her father the responsible, kind adult. They may be both at fault.
 
That assumes that the relationship between father and daughter was healthy otherwise, though. Divorced and remarried? That can leave a lot of scars. Kid homeschooled by mom? That raises a few red flags. It doesn't sound like she's mature, true, but that doesn't necessarily make her father the responsible, kind adult. They may be both at fault.

True. I'm assuming they have a decent relationship. I'm sure there is a lot of backstory.
 
People "minded their own business" when I married the second time and kept their mouth's shut over some really disturbing evidence that shouldn't have been ignored. Say your peace, it may really help. But I hope that something can be done to mend the relationship. Sending you positive thoughts.
 
My dd is 23. She never had a boyfriend in high school...she was more than a little dorky, with low self-esteem. Well...she got to college, and bloomed. And of course, fell for the first guy to show an interest (2 months after starting classes!). She has been with him ever since! She is a beautiful young lady...far from her former dorky self!! This young man flamed out of college, fall of his senior year. He has severe anxiety issues. He has worked summer jobs only, at a nearby theme park. He has allowed his parents to basically support him. Dd moved to Orlando to do the College Program at WDW. She knew she wasn't coming home, since she graduated college last May. Okay, we're good with that. The boyfriend moved down in mid-Jan. Hasn't worked yet!!! He just got a job at US/IoA, starting in June. Dd has an interview there this week...she's been done with the DCP for about 2 weeks now.
This relationship looks serious...and we are not pleased. This young man shows no ambition whatsoever. He stays up until 3am, playing video games, sleeps until 2pm!! He has the social graces of an amoeba!!! He is obviously uncomfortable with us (rightfully so at the moment!!). But, we have tried including him, buying him gifts when suitable. Never a thank-you..for anything. We took him to DL, as part of dd's graduation gift, last May. When my dd thanked us, at the airport when leaving CA, he quickly said 'Yeah, thanks!'. He has allowed our dd to pay for whatever he wants in Fl...leading to her inability to pay her bills.
Now...before anyone 'goes there'...we get it. She's an adult and can make her own choices. And she has. And they have been pretty crappy ones so far. While we blame her for allowing this to go on (she should have been telling him no, I can't afford to do that), we put some of the blame at his feet. He should have gotten a job when he got there and contributed to the expenses. But he didn't. Mommy and daddy paid his rent and car payment!!
So, I can well understand the OPs feelings. It's so hard to see our kids making bad choices. Especially when we know that they are going to lead to disaster. While I understand that there are 19 y/o's out there who are mature enough to marry and make a go of it, to think that a young woman, who has had no relationships what-so-ever, and met someone online, only to meet and get engaged, shortly after meeting in person? Then to cut her dad out of her life because he told her how he felt? I'm sorry. That's wrong. I've been brutally honest with my dd...she knows that no one in her family cares for her boyfriend, and the same goes for the majority of her friends. So, if she continues down this path, and gets hurt, she has no one to blame but herself. The same with OP's dd. But man, it's hard to sit by and watch. The only redeeming thing I can see happening is that the marriage will end badly. Dad and step-mom can be there to help pick up the pieces (with no I told you so's!!), and then be there when dd matures and is in a healthy relationship.
No one has said, but how old is the groom-to-be?
 
Hmmm---I am really curious as to how you and her father approached talking to her about your concerns (as well as to what kind of relationship she has had with her dad, and also how Mom feels baout this---is this man part of her religious community and Mom is pushing the relationship perhaps?).

It's easy from the inernet to jump right on "the girls is immature and should never uninvite her dad" and it DOES sound like the girl probably is immature and at the very least fails to fully grasp what it will take to be financially independent and healthy (largely not her own fault if she has been so severly sheltered growing up and denied experiences to grow and learn) but whether or not her dad approached her in any sort of respectful and careful way is so hard to say. I can well imagine that a parent would be so worried/upset that they'd (understandably) come across as controlling or unreasonable rather than simply sharing concerns that they hope their child will think about.

I would worry about this young lady, who has so very little real world experience, ending up in an abusive or otherwise bad relationship and feelings she had no way out. If, for example, Mom pushed for her ot be in it and Dad is no longer a part of her life, she could end up in a bad way with nowhere to turn. With that thought in mind, I think as a parent or step parent I would do my best to mend things and apaolgize for any hurtful or unkind words said---let her know i do have concerns, not beucase of either of hte people involved but simply the circumstances but that I would much rather celebrate with them than not and would hold my tongue for sure at the celebration and hope I can still go. If that doesn't not go well, I think I would still send a nice card and gift and contonue to send holiday cards, etc and let her know i loved her from time to time in ways I could so that she would (hopefully) feel she could come to me if needed down the road.
 
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People "minded their own business" when I married the second time and kept their mouth's shut over some really disturbing evidence that shouldn't have been ignored. Say your peace, it may really help. But I hope that something can be done to mend the relationship. Sending you positive thoughts.

My BFF got married two years ago and I told her straight up not to marry him. I gave her all of my reasons and she told me I was right but she was going to marry him anyway. Two years, an STD, two kids she found out he had and him being charged with sexual assault, she finally left him and filed for divorce. Only to get back with him two months later. If I hadn't had said something I would've felt like crap. Now we don't talk much and I think it's the embarrassment of her taking him back and I haven't even given her my opinion on her reconciling. Whenever she's ready I'm here.
 
OP, I feel for your husband, I really do. We went through that when oldest DS was that age. In this state, we had to sign for him to get married. I refused at first but then the fear of not being with him when he married caused me to relent. I still did not support the marriage (more due to the person he was marrying than their age which was 19). But I did let him know that I would accept her because he loved her and that I would always be there for the two of them. And that's what we did. When the marriage blew up on him, he never hesitated to come to us.

Your dh needs to do whatever he can to make his dd understand that regardless of his opinion of the marriage, he will always be there for her and she can always count on him. She very well may be needing him very much if this doesn't work out.
 
It was interesting to read the best age to get married thread. My step-daughter is getting married on Saturday, and we are not invited. The story is, she is 19 years old and her dad told her he thought she was far too young to get married. She met her fiancee online 2 years ago. They had a Skype relationship until last year when he came to visit and get to know each other better. (He lives 2 hours away) After the visit he proposed to her. Her dad and I feel she is far too young for marriage, partly because she has had a very sheltered life thus far. She has been home-schooled and her only social interactions have been with church friends. She had never even been on a date with anyone until her fiancee came to visit last year. Now they are engaged, they both have part-time jobs, no health insurance (after the wedding she is no longer a dependent) and will begin their marriage living with her mother. When my husband voiced his objections to the marriage, she shut us out of everything. He is heartbroken. Maybe we should have kept our mouths shut and just "go with the flow" but this marriage is a recipe for disaster. Sorry so long..just venting

19- yea I would throw up if my 19 year old was getting married-ugh. Why would they even get married at that point- why not live together (even that at 19 makes me twitch) this way they could stay on parents health insurance policies. The mother is enabling this because if she did not give them a place to live they could not get by on their own on 2 part time jobs. Its like 2 children playing house.
 
19- yea I would throw up if my 19 year old was getting married-ugh. Why would they even get married at that point- why not live together (even that at 19 makes me twitch) this way they could stay on parents health insurance policies. The mother is enabling this because if she did not give them a place to live they could not get by on their own on 2 part time jobs. Its like 2 children playing house.
I think ACA compliant plans allow married "kids" to remain on parents' policies.
 
19- yea I would throw up if my 19 year old was getting married-ugh. Why would they even get married at that point- why not live together (even that at 19 makes me twitch) this way they could stay on parents health insurance policies. The mother is enabling this because if she did not give them a place to live they could not get by on their own on 2 part time jobs. Its like 2 children playing house.
It is 2 children playing house, if they are being financially supported by other adults.
 
I think ACA compliant plans allow married "kids" to remain on parents' policies.

It does, provided the parents want to provide coverage for their married daughter. They don't have to, and given the situation I wouldn't be shocked if they weren't interested
 

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