We saw both over Labor Day weekend. We sat on the curb on the hub in front of the castle, and -yes- people begin to line up early. We were there about 1 1/2 hours (maybe a little less) before the parade and got one of the last curb spots on the hub right after the Tomorrowland Bridge. The location was wonderful! We had a fabulous spot for the parade, and when it was over, all we had to do was turn toward the castle to see Tink fly. Be sure to stick around for the Kiss Goodnight as well. It happened about 30 minutes after park closing, and most people were headed out of the gates. We sat on a bench right in front of the castle to watch and it was magical!