Space, the final frontier

MarkBarbieri

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For quite a while, I've been juggling stuff to make sure that I have enough space to work. My drives have been filling up. I've been shuffling stuff around to make room. I've been deleting intermediate files.

I finally got tired of it. My solution was to buy a RAID controller and eight 3TB hard drives. I arranged them in a RAID 6 array. That means that I only get the space of six of those hard drives, but any two of them can fail and I won't lose any data.

I got it all set up and working today. I need to let it burn in for a couple of days before I'll be comfortable with it. It looks good so far. Now I've got plenty of space and I'm in my happy place.

This is what the final frontier looks like to me:
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Any bets on how long it will take before I fill it and start whining about not having enough space again?
 
My husband thinks I am crazy for having a 1T external drive. It is about 1/3 full. I can't even compar to you.
 

Mark you win. I have a netgear NAS with 4 2tb hard drives done in raid that leaves about 5.4 tb's of usable space with the raid. It is fun not worrying about where to put stuff!
 
Ok, anyone beside me thought with past hot air balloon pics and helicoptor pics, Mark had somehow got on a space flight?
 
Dude!!!

That is some serious space.... Now - to ask the painful question:

What on earth are you using for an offsite backup system? All the space and RAID reduncancy in the world aren't going do you a bit of good if its the only spot your files are in. A physical failure (fire/water,etc) or a RAID controller failure (corruption of raid data) can make the fact that something is RAIDED for drive failure irrelevant.
 
Dude!!!

That is some serious space.... Now - to ask the painful question:

What on earth are you using for an offsite backup system? All the space and RAID reduncancy in the world aren't going do you a bit of good if its the only spot your files are in. A physical failure (fire/water,etc) or a RAID controller failure (corruption of raid data) can make the fact that something is RAIDED for drive failure irrelevant.

That was my thought, too. And not just because of physical failure, consider burglary a well. We were robbed this year and all I could think was thank goodness they didn't get my backups because I was way behind with my off site backup.

So how you backing all that data up off site? Because I'm stuck right now for a good way to get the 12TB's I've got (that's an estimation of our actual data, not including my backup and empty drive sapce) stashed somewhere that's cost effective and easy to maintain.
 
I'd give it a week.

~MM
Mrs. MarkBarbieri would not be happy about that. I told her that it would be all the space I need for a couple of years.

Mark you win. I have a netgear NAS with 4 2tb hard drives done in raid that leaves about 5.4 tb's of usable space with the raid. It is fun not worrying about where to put stuff!

I have a pair of Infrant (now NetGear) NASes. One has four 1.5TB drives and the other has four 2TB drives. This new setup is for my personal machine, not for network storage. If I like it, I might replace the NASes next year with a server using a similar storage setup.

Ok, anyone beside me thought with past hot air balloon pics and helicoptor pics, Mark had somehow got on a space flight?

That would be way cool. That's kind of a tough gig to get.

Dude!!!

That is some serious space.... Now - to ask the painful question:

What on earth are you using for an offsite backup system? All the space and RAID reduncancy in the world aren't going do you a bit of good if its the only spot your files are in. A physical failure (fire/water,etc) or a RAID controller failure (corruption of raid data) can make the fact that something is RAIDED for drive failure irrelevant.

Here's my basic approach:

1) My primary long term storage is one of my NAS boxes. It has four drives in a RAID 5 configuration. I copy all important shoots to it and my local machine before I start editing. I later replace the NAS folder with the folder on my local machine to get rid of the rejected pictures.

2) With the extra space on my local machine, I plan to keep a copy of everything on my local machine. That gives me two copies in the house - one on the NAS and one on my local machine.

3) For offsite backups, I load files onto a set of plain 3.5" hard drives and keep them at my office. That's about 8 miles away and 10 floors off the ground. I upgrade storage devices every 2-3 years, so I get fresh copies periodically. Every 3 to 6 months, I load everything to a new set of drives and then bring the old pair home.

4) I have some tertiary backups in the form of smugmug and vimeo uploads.

Here's a shot of my computer as of this morning:
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The new RAID 6 array consists of the 5 drives on the lower left and the 3 lower drives to the right of them. The next drive up is an SSD I use for the OS and some cache files. The two drives above them are a pair of 2TB drives I striped to use as a scratch drive.

In the top left are a Blu-ray reader/DVD writer, a drive that lets you pop in internal 3.5" drives, and a Blu-ray writer.

In the top right are an i7 930 (2.8ghz), 12 gig of RAM, a Quadro FX 3800 video card, an a new LSI 9265-8i RAID controller.

This is what my Windows Explorer looks like for "My Computer"
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Those "removable" disks are from a USB 3 card reader and my monitor (which has a built in USB 2 card reader).

The "extra" BD-ROM drive is a virtual drive from Daemon Tools.

The "IronKey" drive is a secured USB drive. I use that to store my Quicken files and my personal documents (tax files, bills, receipts, paystubs, etc).

I just set up the "scratch" drive this morning. I'm thinking about partitioning it into a few different drives to cut down on fragmentation. I'm also thinking that by partitioning, I can force the most performance sensitive data to the outer portion of the disk and pick up a little extra performance. Then again, I'm thinking about grabbing a bag of chips and watching some football instead.
 
So you're using a similar off site storage solution to me for the bulk of it.. I'm stashing drives 30 miles across town in my in-laws fire safe.
 
I feel like I'm watching an episode of "Hoarders"!

~Marlton Mom
 

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