SOTU Speech - is Goofy in trouble?

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Look, I don't want to start an actual political discussion. They never go anywhere and just end up with bad feelings on all sides.

But did anyone notice that Bush called for a ban on human-animal hybrids in his State of the Union Speech? If Goofy in trouble? Any other Disney worries?
 
salmoneous said:
Look, I don't want to start an actual political discussion. They never go anywhere and just end up with bad feelings on all sides.

But did anyone notice that Bush called for a ban on human-animal hybrids in his State of the Union Speech? If Goofy in trouble? Any other Disney worries?


Was Bush talking about breeding an animal with a human???? I didn't watch the speech. Doesn't he know this doesn't work???? Heck, you can't even cross a dog and a cat. I though EVERYONE knew that.
 
salmoneous said:
If Goofy in trouble?

Well, after watching last night, I think it's pretty safe to say we're all in trouble . . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (I'll keep my fingers crossed for Goofy, though. And, what would this mean for Arial??)
 
Well, if Donald has never been tagged for not wearing any pants, I think Goofy has a spendid chance for survival.

But now that Alito is on the bench, Mickey and Minnie's chances of making it to the altar are slim to none.
 

GEM said:
Well, after watching last night, I think it's pretty safe to say we're all in trouble . . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:rotfl:

I gave up after his defense of phone tapping. Did he really talk about human-animal hybrids????
 
Rafiki Rafiki Rafiki said:
Mickey and Minnie's chances of making it to the altar are slim to none.


Based on what Mickey "told" me in September, I don't think they were good to begin with! ;) :rotfl:

Poor Minnie!!! We didn't have the heart to tell her....(besides, I think she needs to "get closer" to GOOFY anyway!! :teeth: )
 
hiwaygal said:
Based on what Mickey "told" me in September, I don't think they were good to begin with! ;) :rotfl:

Poor Minnie!!! We didn't have the heart to tell her....(besides, I think she needs to "get closer" to GOOFY anyway!! :teeth: )

We were there in December, and the person in front of us in line for Minnie had gotten engaged and she marched her over to Mickey and pointed to the ring. Mickey didn't wan to hear it! So my little brother proposed to Minnie. Mickey fought him for it. It was so cute :)
 
hiwaygal said:
Based on what Mickey "told" me in September, I don't think they were good to begin with! ;) :rotfl:
Poor Minnie!!! We didn't have the heart to tell her....(besides, I think she needs to "get closer" to GOOFY anyway!! :teeth: )

DS17 & I are reading this & DS informs me that he thinks Minnie hangs out with Goofy a suspicious amount of time
they have a song together in MVMCP show & are commonly seen canoodling all over AK

human animal hybrids, geez, I missed that!

I would've paid more attention had I known the Island of Dr Moreau was up for discussion! :goodvibes

Long live Mickey & Minnie!
Goofy, well, he can hit the cement!

Jean
 
golfgal said:
Was Bush talking about breeding an animal with a human???? I didn't watch the speech. Doesn't he know this doesn't work???? Heck, you can't even cross a dog and a cat. I though EVERYONE knew that.

Not according to National Geographic. This is just plain creepy and I don't like it one bit.

Animal-Human Hybrids Spark Controversy
Maryann Mott
National Geographic News
January 25, 2005

Scientists have begun blurring the line between human and animal by producing chimeras—a hybrid creature that's part human, part animal.

Chinese scientists at the Shanghai Second Medical University in 2003 successfully fused human cells with rabbit eggs. The embryos were reportedly the first human-animal chimeras successfully created. They were allowed to develop for several days in a laboratory dish before the scientists destroyed the embryos to harvest their stem cells.

In Minnesota last year researchers at the Mayo Clinic created pigs with human blood flowing through their bodies.

And at Stanford University in California an experiment might be done later this year to create mice with human brains.

Scientists feel that, the more humanlike the animal, the better research model it makes for testing drugs or possibly growing "spare parts," such as livers, to transplant into humans.

Watching how human cells mature and interact in a living creature may also lead to the discoveries of new medical treatments.

But creating human-animal chimeras—named after a monster in Greek mythology that had a lion's head, goat's body, and serpent's tail—has raised troubling questions: What new subhuman combination should be produced and for what purpose? At what point would it be considered human? And what rights, if any, should it have?

There are currently no U.S. federal laws that address these issues.

Ethical Guidelines

The National Academy of Sciences, which advises the U.S. government, has been studying the issue. In March it plans to present voluntary ethical guidelines for researchers.

A chimera is a mixture of two or more species in one body. Not all are considered troubling, though.

For example, faulty human heart valves are routinely replaced with ones taken from cows and pigs. The surgery—which makes the recipient a human-animal chimera—is widely accepted. And for yeers scientists have added human genes to bacteria and farm animals.

Full article: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html
 
Government needs to stay out of the science business, other than writing the checks. When the leader of the free world can't even pronounce a basic scientific word - let alone understand the principles involved in something as advanced as genetic manipulation - I think it's pretty unlikely he can grasp the full ramifications of something like this.

But hey....why bother learning more about it when you can scare people with "human animal hybrids". :rolleyes:
 
Free4Life11 said:
Not according to National Geographic. This is just plain creepy and I don't like it one bit.

So, are you saying, you are against using animal parts to save human lives? Or even to fix non-lethal things?

My DH's knee was repaired using pig tendons. If he didn't have the fix, he would be crutches bound for the rest of his life (tore acl, mcl, another cl, meniscus and shattered his patella). Now he runs, jumps and plays basketball with his adult league.

Guess I get to kid him about being a chimera :rotfl2:


I also gave up soon after the Pres started speaking. And I agree we are in big trouble. But we have known that for some time now :rolleyes:

But I did catch the democratic response. The governor of Virginia gave an excellent speech. First time I have heard him speak. I sure hope the democratic party is considering him for a candidate in 2008, or at least as Hillary's running mate :teeth:
 
jonestavern said:
DS17 & I are reading this & DS informs me that he thinks Minnie hangs out with Goofy a suspicious amount of time
they have a song together in MVMCP show & are commonly seen canoodling all over AK Jean

Does anyone else wonder where Max came from?!?!?!?!
 
Independent said:
So, are you saying, you are against using animal parts to save human lives? Or even to fix non-lethal things?

I should have said I don't like the genetic part. Using pig tendons is one thing. But creating a mouse with a human brain is another. That creeps me out!
 
wvrevy said:
Government needs to stay out of the science business, other than writing the checks.

So they should fund it, but have no say in it. THAT makes a lot of sense.
 
I can already see the headline used by the Republican "swift boat" machine in 2008: "Hillary Clinton: Soft on Werewolves, soft on National Security!!"
 
Free4Life11 said:
So they should fund it, but have no say in it. THAT makes a lot of sense.
Sorry...I think I'd rather have, oh, you know, actual scientists directing scientific research. Call me kooky. :rolleyes: Sure, have a review of the projects - congressional oversight of the spending, for example. But directing a specific line of scientific inquiry ? Sorry, but I think I'd prefer to leave that in the hands of those that are actually trained to handle it.
 
Free4Life11 said:
But creating a mouse with a human brain is another. That creeps me out!
I can see it now... Mouse with a human brain hooks up with his dumb friend and every week tries to TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

(Whoops - are WB cartoon references allowed on The Dis?)
 
Laugh O. Grams said:
I can already see the headline used by the Republican "swift boat" machine in 2008: "Hillary Clinton: Soft on Werewolves, soft on National Security!!"

:lmao: That actually made me choke on my breakfast. :lmao:
 
I have wondered about Max as well. Where exactly did he come from? Who is his mother? My kids asked me and I didn't know what to tell them.

Also, now that you mention it, Minnie does spend a lot of time with Goofy.
 

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