Some guests don't realize that not everyone gets up at the crack of dawn.......

t just depends who your neighbors are.:confused3 And of course some people are just crazy!!! ....:crazy2: :scared1:

HEY, I resemble that remark!! :banana:

Now the family at the BCV were just downright rude, though. Mom and Dad need a little educating. Maybe Kevin Federline can take in their kids, too.

I can see it now, "K-Fed's Home for Poorly Parented Children." :scared:

1) I am sorry, but you are at an early morning vacation destination.
2) One should expect early morning noise.
3) Let alone excited and even cranky kids (from late nights).
4) The only option is staying at a convention hotel or stay off-site.

1) An "early morning vacation destination??" I've never heard of such a thing. Do people really go to their travel agent and ask for this type of vacation? Regardless of whether the resort activities begin early or not, RUDE is RUDE, and people being loud at 8AM, when other might be sleeping is RUDE and inconsiderate.
2) Noise is one thing. Incessant screaming, yelling, and banging on walls is quite another. No one, regardless of where they are staying, should have to put up with such poor behavior.
3) If your kids get cranky because you kept them up too late, that's on you! Get your kids to bed at a decent hour and be considerate of your fellow guests. Overly excited kids should be reminded that they are being a little loud.
4) Why should I have to stay at a convention hotel or off-site because other guests feel entitled to be rude?? Since when has Disney become the "I'm entitled to be rude" resort.

Seriously, some people will always come up with an excuse why it is everyone else's fault but their own!:rolleyes1
 
Two years ago when we stayed in a studio at OKW, the people in the other room would come in at 11 PM and proceed to put their small child to sleep and let him/her cry themselves to sleep for about 30 minutes every night. It was awful. Yes, I should have called down to the desk but didn't.

This year, there was a small girl in Olivia's eating dinner that let out this blood curdling scream about every 5 minutes the whole time they were eating dinner. Where were her parents ? I know it's hard to control toddlers at some times but I have children of my own and after about 2 good screams like that I would have exited that restaurant with her by the arm and made it clear to her the reason why we were never going back.

It seems that parents over indulge their children while at WDW. Why is this ? Just because you're on vacation doesn't mean you have to leave your manners at home but something tells me that there's no discipline even at home because if there was this wouldn't be happening in the first place.
 
1) An "early morning vacation destination??" I've never heard of such a thing. Do people really go to their travel agent and ask for this type of vacation? Regardless of whether the resort activities begin early or not, RUDE is RUDE, and people being loud at 8AM, when other might be sleeping is RUDE and inconsiderate.
2) Noise is one thing. Incessant screaming, yelling, and banging on walls is quite another. No one, regardless of where they are staying, should have to put up with such poor behavior.
3) If your kids get cranky because you kept them up too late, that's on you! Get your kids to bed at a decent hour and be considerate of your fellow guests. Overly excited kids should be reminded that they are being a little loud.
4) Why should I have to stay at a convention hotel or off-site because other guests feel entitled to be rude?? Since when has Disney become the "I'm entitled to be rude" resort.

Seriously, some people will always come up with an excuse why it is everyone else's fault but their own!:rolleyes1


Absolutely right!! If it's considered an early morning vacation spot then why do they have the late night events at every park? Disney is for everyone. I can guarantee those people who let their kids run wild (yes, even on vacation) they will regret it someday. Teach them manners while they are still young, you are doing them a huge favor. Once they are older they won't always listen, especially if they weren't taught manners as a child.:)
 
It seems that parents over indulge their children while at WDW. Why is this ? Just because you're on vacation doesn't mean you have to leave your manners at home but something tells me that there's no discipline even at home because if there was this wouldn't be happening in the first place.


It seems like some people think that letting their kids be 'free' is being a nice parent. However, when kids are allowed to run wild they have problems everywhere they go. Including school, friendships and employment. Little things like teaching your child not to yell, scream, slam doors, etc. while others may be asleep is a lesson that helps them everywhere in life. They need to be taught there are other people staying in the hotel and they need to be considerate of others. They can have plenty of fun, even being quiet, and then can be loud outside.:)
 

I also saw a disturbing situation where a British couple let their child, about 6 or 7 years old go to another ride by herself while they waited in line in front of us at a different ride. I wanted sooooo bad to tell them how wrong that was! But I had to keep it to myself. I was so relieved to see her waiting outside the ride when we followed them out!

So funny you mention this. My daughter & I had the good fortune to visit friends living in England for two years. Went over to Paris for a couple of days and, of course, had to visit Disneyland Paris. Never again! I never witnessed such continuous rude behavior before. Cutting lines was rampant - with no CMs in sight to do anything. And the practice of family members standing in one line, "holding" places, while the rest of their party rode another ride was quite common! Rude! Rude! Rude!:sad2:
 
1) WDW is a family resort.
2) And, at family resorts there will be quiet, average and noisy families.
3) Both adults and kids get excited at WDW, and it comes out.
4) Plus, some people are simply more noisy than others.
5) That is why CM's "usually" don't get involved unless late at night.
6) And sometimes get involved slowly.

NOTE: I have seen many times where a noise complaint after midnight resulted in a phone call to the offenders. A manager went after the second call. There is a fine line between noisy and too noisy.

NOTE2: Please remember that the WDW motto is that every guest should have the vacation of their life. This includes the noisy ones.
 
1) WDW is a family resort.
2) And, at family resorts there will be quiet, average and noisy families.
3) Both adults and kids get excited at WDW, and it comes out.
4) Plus, some people are simply more noisy than others.
5) That is why CM's "usually" don't get involved unless late at night.
6) And sometimes get involved slowly.

NOTE: I have seen many times where a noise complaint after midnight resulted in a phone call to the offenders. A manager went after the second call. There is a fine line between noisy and too noisy.

NOTE2: Please remember that the WDW motto is that every guest should have the vacation of their life. This includes the noisy ones.

1 WDW is a family resort, yes but not a my child is the only person in the world and can upset as many people as possible world.
2 Remember you are not the only people on the planet and be considerate, would you like it if your neighbour was that noisy?
3 Yes get excited but not at the expense of other people
4 If you are noisy than other people in a small confined area remember and be quieter, no wonder people are getting ruder when they expect everyone else to put up with noise

Note2 Please remember that your neighbour also paid to have a nice holiday and why should a rude noisy family spoil it for others.
 
While I agree that some Disney hotels could use more insulation, how hard is it to NOT repeatly slam your outside room door before 7am? (You know when someone goes outside their room (to ummmmm ...... :rolleyes1 for whatever reason) and flips the lock out so they can get back into the room without using the card key and lets the the door close on the lock over and over). In addition to that when that person is outside is it REALLY necessary to yell to your children in the room to "go back to bed people are sleeping!" ?:confused3


Oh yes, we had this issue with the people next door to us at Pop Century. It was SO annoying. My DF even said something to the people next to us. Of course they still kept doing it...
 
1) WDW is a family resort.
2) And, at family resorts there will be quiet, average and noisy families.
3) Both adults and kids get excited at WDW, and it comes out.
4) Plus, some people are simply more noisy than others.
5) That is why CM's "usually" don't get involved unless late at night.
6) And sometimes get involved slowly.

NOTE: I have seen many times where a noise complaint after midnight resulted in a phone call to the offenders. A manager went after the second call. There is a fine line between noisy and too noisy.

NOTE2: Please remember that the WDW motto is that every guest should have the vacation of their life. This includes the noisy ones.

1) Yes, Disney is a family resort...so what? That doesn't give anyone the right to be loud and obnoxious, especially early in the morning or late at night, when others are apt to be sleeping.
2) True, there are quiet, average, and noisy families. Those that fall into the noisy group know they're noisy. I've got possibly the noisiest family in the world. We're loud and we know it. BUT, when we're on vacation, we go out of our way to be as quiet as possible. When the kids were smaller, we made them use their whisper voices early in the morning so as not to disturb the other guests in the resort. We stressed this so much that they would police each other. They knew that what is OK for our home, is NOT ok when on vacation.
3) Everyone gets excited from time to time. No one here has said that occasional noise from anyone was a problem. It's the incessant screaming, yelling, and banging on walls that is the problem. A child yelling, "I'm going to see Mickey" at 8 in the morning once or twice is not the problem. The kid who is running up and down the hall knocking on everyone's door is.
4) See #2. Noisy people can be quiet when they need to. It's called being considerate of others.
5) CMs might be reluctant to get involved, but believe me if I were next to one of those families that were being loud and disruptive on a constant basis, they had better find a way to handle it. Handling issues like this slowly is probably one of the worst things a CM can do. Alienating a guest because they can't rest at a reasonable hour sends the message that we don't care about the vast majority of our guests. . I doubt this is Disney's policy. However, one of the reasons I believe they get involved slowly for is that if there is only one family complaining about the noise, they aren't sure if there really is an issue. That's why if you are being disturbed, you should call and let the front desk know.

As for your 2nd note....if that noisy, obnoxious family has a right to continue to have the vacation of their life on their terms, what about my right to have the vacation of my life on my terms? Why should the rights of a few supercede the rights of many? I am tired of being forced to accommodate the rude and obnoxious wherever I go, simply because it is their "right." Being considerate costs nothing and pays many dividends.
 
Opposite for me, while at Disney last time, a woman in the next room one night was out on the balcony using her cell phone after midnght. I could hear every word she said. The next night, she let her baby cry itself to sleep for about 30 minutes. I was happy when they left.

I know that the cell phone thing was not right to do but I have to make a comment on the baby thing.

Do you have young children? I have just experienced having a toddler over the weekend at a different stay that didn't want to sleep in the travel crib or the bed with us. She didn't fall asleep until 11. There were a few times I tried to get her to just cry it out. What the heck to you expect someone to do that can't get a child to sleep in the room next to you because they are away from home, put duct tape on their mouth? It isn't something on purpose like the cell phone or kids running down the hall. That is something that can't be helped or avoided sometimes.
 
I also saw a disturbing situation where a British couple let their child, about 6 or 7 years old go to another ride by herself while they waited in line in front of us at a different ride. I wanted sooooo bad to tell them how wrong that was!

What you consider wrong is obviously not wrong to them. Clearly they felt their child was mature and responsible enough to go to a ride without them. Since she was waiting for them exactly where she was told to be when she finished, I guess they were right.
 
1) Yes, Disney is a family resort...so what? That doesn't give anyone the right to be loud and obnoxious, especially early in the morning or late at night, when others are apt to be sleeping.
2) True, there are quiet, average, and noisy families. Those that fall into the noisy group know they're noisy. I've got possibly the noisiest family in the world. We're loud and we know it. BUT, when we're on vacation, we go out of our way to be as quiet as possible. When the kids were smaller, we made them use their whisper voices early in the morning so as not to disturb the other guests in the resort. We stressed this so much that they would police each other. They knew that what is OK for our home, is NOT ok when on vacation.
3) Everyone gets excited from time to time. No one here has said that occasional noise from anyone was a problem. It's the incessant screaming, yelling, and banging on walls that is the problem. A child yelling, "I'm going to see Mickey" at 8 in the morning once or twice is not the problem. The kid who is running up and down the hall knocking on everyone's door is.
4) See #2. Noisy people can be quiet when they need to. It's called being considerate of others.
5) CMs might be reluctant to get involved, but believe me if I were next to one of those families that were being loud and disruptive on a constant basis, they had better find a way to handle it. Handling issues like this slowly is probably one of the worst things a CM can do. Alienating a guest because they can't rest at a reasonable hour sends the message that we don't care about the vast majority of our guests. . I doubt this is Disney's policy. However, one of the reasons I believe they get involved slowly for is that if there is only one family complaining about the noise, they aren't sure if there really is an issue. That's why if you are being disturbed, you should call and let the front desk know.

As for your 2nd note....if that noisy, obnoxious family has a right to continue to have the vacation of their life on their terms, what about my right to have the vacation of my life on my terms? Why should the rights of a few supercede the rights of many? I am tired of being forced to accommodate the rude and obnoxious wherever I go, simply because it is their "right." Being considerate costs nothing and pays many dividends.

This reply should be reprinted and handed to all guests upon their arrival!
 
I know that the cell phone thing was not right to do but I have to make a comment on the baby thing.

Do you have young children? I have just experienced having a toddler over the weekend at a different stay that didn't want to sleep in the travel crib or the bed with us. She didn't fall asleep until 11. There were a few times I tried to get her to just cry it out. What the heck to you expect someone to do that can't get a child to sleep in the room next to you because they are away from home, put duct tape on their mouth? It isn't something on purpose like the cell phone or kids running down the hall. That is something that can't be helped or avoided sometimes.

Julie -

I have raised three children and I do understand what you are saying. Sometimes it is just not possible to get them settled down in a strange place. However, in my opinion, this is not the appropriate time to let them cry it out either. The needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few at this point and, I'm sorry, but for the consideration of all the other guests around you, the baby needs to be quiet. If this means picking him/her up and rocking or holding her until she falls asleep then that's what it needs to be - sorry. When you are at home you can do whatever you feel you need to but when you are in the presence of many other people then you have to be considerate.

I know this is difficult to do sometimes but when it is midnight and the baby has cried for over a half an hour then something needs to be done for the sake of the other guests around you.

With that said, could the hotel rooms be a bit more sound proof, especially since there are always families in them ? Yes.
 
Last year was the only time we had any problem with noise. There were two older women sitting outside our door smoking and talking very loudly. We ask for a non smoking room and than our room fills with smoke anyway because of the these two women. On the second night of this my dh finally opened the door at 1 am and ask them to be quiet. Thank heavens they left that day. Children may not always understand "inside voices" but adults should.
 
Kathi - I totally agree with you - I have two kids - and actually my son is autistic and as such may be prone to an occasional lapse of judgement - as it pertains to using his "inside voice". However, let me just say - that for the most part - we *somehow* manage to be quiet and considerate of other guest...and we do get up at the crack of dawn.

I consider this my *job* as a parent to teach my children consideration of others. Its unfortunate when people raise as an arguement 'the right to be loud and obnoxious' as an inalienable right - and that we as a country - have lost total basic consideration for our fellow man.

1) Yes, Disney is a family resort...so what? That doesn't give anyone the right to be loud and obnoxious, especially early in the morning or late at night, when others are apt to be sleeping.
2) True, there are quiet, average, and noisy families. Those that fall into the noisy group know they're noisy. I've got possibly the noisiest family in the world. We're loud and we know it. BUT, when we're on vacation, we go out of our way to be as quiet as possible. When the kids were smaller, we made them use their whisper voices early in the morning so as not to disturb the other guests in the resort. We stressed this so much that they would police each other. They knew that what is OK for our home, is NOT ok when on vacation.
3) Everyone gets excited from time to time. No one here has said that occasional noise from anyone was a problem. It's the incessant screaming, yelling, and banging on walls that is the problem. A child yelling, "I'm going to see Mickey" at 8 in the morning once or twice is not the problem. The kid who is running up and down the hall knocking on everyone's door is.
4) See #2. Noisy people can be quiet when they need to. It's called being considerate of others.
5) CMs might be reluctant to get involved, but believe me if I were next to one of those families that were being loud and disruptive on a constant basis, they had better find a way to handle it. Handling issues like this slowly is probably one of the worst things a CM can do. Alienating a guest because they can't rest at a reasonable hour sends the message that we don't care about the vast majority of our guests. . I doubt this is Disney's policy.
 
Well, we just returned home today. We didn't encounter early morning noise for the remainder of our stay, which was nice because we slept in every morning!

1) I am sorry, but you are at an early morning vacation destination.
2) One should expect early morning noise.
3) Let alone excited and even cranky kids (from late nights).
4) The only option is staying at a convention hotel or stay off-site.
I have to comment, specially on your first point. I have never heard WDW referred to as an "early morning vacation destination". I've heard it advertised as many things, including a magical place for everyone to enjoy, but never an early morning vacation destination.

I must respectfully disagree with that point! DH & I were on a 20th anniversary trip & our DD's met us down there 3 days in to the trip. We certainly weren't there for any early morning vaction fun ;) (even when our DD's arrived!!)

I was at the Poly up until last Friday 10/5. On Thursday a.m. 10/4, there was a family in the hall talking at about 7 a.m.. I could clearly hear them talking about getting to MK for early EMH, they were wondering where Grandma was, how their dinner was the night before and on and on for more than 10 minutes. The kids were running up and down the hall and yelling "Grandma let's go!" We were trying to sleep in since we were going to MNSSHP that night.

I opened the door and kindly asked them to please keep it down as we were still sleeping and they acted offended and when I closed the door, they disrespected my polite request by being louder than before. We were in 3rd floor Figi by the way.
We were in Tokelau - 2nd floor - lagoon view! Beautiful, beautiful location. We're OKW owners, but when we don't stay there the Poly is our favorite resort.

Being considerate costs nothing and pays many dividends.
This quote should copyrighted!!!

All in all we had a fantastic vacation, as always.

(but don't get me started on the 3 families I saw changing their 5 year old sons from shorts to bathing suits right at the pool!!! :eek: )
 
I have 3 kids, aged 4 through 10.

They make noise.

But if I ever thought that their lack of consideration was keeping another person awake, our vacation would most definitely take a turn for the worst.

There are certain rules in our house. They're not allowed to call their friends after 8 or before 11, for example. Why? Because it's rude; someone might be sleeping.

That same type of rule is in effect on all our vacations. Yes, you're allowed to make necessary noise. But there is never a call to be rude, and that's the type of behavior that's been described here.

To be honest, the rules are NOT for the benefit of the strangers in the adjoining room, or at least not entirely. I want my kids to grow up to be decent, caring, thoughtful individuals. If I don't teach it at 4, I don't stand a chance at 24.

So while our early morning shower may awaken the person in the next room (and I have yet to meet the Contemporary's "turbo toilets'), my kids will NOT be the ones running down the halls keeping you awake. I promise.
 
My whole family (including my mom & stepfather) went to the Hoop Dee Doo Revue. Now, if you've gone to this show before, you know that: a) it is expensive, and b) it is raucous. So as we sit, I hear what sounds like canned music from a small speaker. I turn around and see a family of 4 behind me, where the son (about 6) is watching a portable DVD player!

I make eye contact wih the dad, point to the DVD player and then point to my ears, hoping that, at the very least, he will get the idea that his son should use headphones.

Two minutes later, the show begins, and the kid actually turns the volume up on his DVD player!

I wait for the first break in the show, calmy walk up to the father and politely say to him (in a voice only audible to him) that my 6 tickets to this show were very expensive and I expect to hear only the show and the audience, not his son's Spongebob DVD. I sit back down and a few minutes later, I notice the DVD has been turned off. When I turn back around to thank him, the whole family is gone! This was just as dinner was being served!

I do not know what was more ludicrous; the fact that I had to be the politeness cop instead of the management or the fact that this family chose to skip out on dinner rather than make Junior use headphones.

I am thankful that my family was there to witness it, because otherwise I don't think anyone would believe the story.
 
My whole family (including my mom & stepfather) went to the Hoop Dee Doo Revue. Now, if you've gone to this show before, you know that: a) it is expensive, and b) it is raucous. So as we sit, I hear what sounds like canned music from a small speaker. I turn around and see a family of 4 behind me, where the son (about 6) is watching a portable DVD player!

I make eye contact wih the dad, point to the DVD player and then point to my ears, hoping that, at the very least, he will get the idea that his son should use headphones.

Two minutes later, the show begins, and the kid actually turns the volume up on his DVD player!

I wait for the first break in the show, calmy walk up to the father and politely say to him (in a voice only audible to him) that my 6 tickets to this show were very expensive and I expect to hear only the show and the audience, not his son's Spongebob DVD. I sit back down and a few minutes later, I notice the DVD has been turned off. When I turn back around to thank him, the whole family is gone! This was just as dinner was being served!

I do not know what was more ludicrous; the fact that I had to be the politeness cop instead of the management or the fact that this family chose to skip out on dinner rather than make Junior use headphones.

I am thankful that my family was there to witness it, because otherwise I don't think anyone would believe the story.

That is so sad, obvious who is in charge of that household,:scared1:

Super Nanny!!!
 













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