Some Aulani Disappointments

Not sure anyone said it broke their vacation. It used to be offered, and is a very Hawaiian thing and it adds extra magic to your vacation, Disney is known for its magical experiences. So people have every right to complain about it, without being accosted for doing so. Does that mean they have to now stay at a different brand hotel? People spend the price of a car on these DVC contracts and shouldn't have to go somewhere else to feel special. Having someone place a Lei around your neck upon arrival is special and not nearly the same thing as going to the ABC store and buying one. Yes you can buy the service to be greeted at the airport with a lei, I actually just paid for it... I also just spent nearly $100,000 on DVC and had to spend more for a special service that Disney used to provide. Since I bought DVC after the Lei greeting stopped I have less of a right to complain than others. Yes the terms of DVC say they can take things away, still doesnt mean people cant be disappointed by those things.

Lastly I remember you complaining about the suggested $5 tip per bag WRITTEN on a bell luggage tags. I thought that was super petty to be mad about a suggestion not even verbally told you yet I didnt at the time feel the need to come at you about it, because people have a right to their feelings. Maybe you should stay at the Hilton where that suggestion isnt on the bell hop tags.

You also said Aulani felt "low rent" due to no Leis, so you have changed your tune or will be staying elsewhere? https://www.disboards.com/threads/g...first-timers-july-2024.3949583/#post-65612540

I wasn't mad about the requested $5 tip per bag. In the moment, it was more of a "What the heck? Holy cow." It wasn't a "I'm never coming here again!" If you go back and read what I actually said about the $5/bag tip (in the link you included), I actually said, "the suggested $5/bag to tip Bell Services for both dropping off your bags and picking them up was a little annoying."

We had such a great time last month at Aulani (our 1st time) that we're going to buy a DVC resale contract at that resort.

I never said that Aulani felt 'low rent' due to no leis. Maybe you're thinking of a different person.

A general suggestion for travelers to Hawaii to consider:
You can arrange ahead of time for someone to meet you at the airport gate WITH LEIS. https://leigreeting.com/oahu-lei-greetings/. I haven't used this service myself.
 
Not sure anyone said it broke their vacation. It used to be offered, and is a very Hawaiian thing and it adds extra magic to your vacation, Disney is known for its magical experiences. So people have every right to complain about it, without being accosted for doing so. Does that mean they have to now stay at a different brand hotel? People spend the price of a car on these DVC contracts and shouldn't have to go somewhere else to feel special. Having someone place a Lei around your neck upon arrival is special and not nearly the same thing as going to the ABC store and buying one. Yes you can buy the service to be greeted at the airport with a lei, I actually just paid for it... I also just spent nearly $100,000 on DVC and had to spend more for a special service that Disney used to provide. Since I bought DVC after the Lei greeting stopped I have less of a right to complain than others. Yes the terms of DVC say they can take things away, still doesnt mean people cant be disappointed by those things.

Lastly I remember you complaining about the suggested $5 tip per bag WRITTEN on a bell luggage tags. I thought that was super petty to be mad about a suggestion not even verbally told you yet I didnt at the time feel the need to come at you about it, because people have a right to their feelings. Maybe you should stay at the Hilton where that suggestion isnt on the bell hop tags.

You also said Aulani felt "low rent" due to no Leis, so you have changed your tune or will be staying elsewhere? https://www.disboards.com/threads/g...first-timers-july-2024.3949583/#post-65612540
Anyone can feel satisfied or unsatisfied on anything based on their initial expectations. I think we can all agree that Aulani is a special place that also has the pros and cons of being a constantly packed Disney resort. There are some areas where they could definitely up their game…. and there is nothing wrong with bringing them up…. however IMO a pure take down post with only negatives does not paint an accurate picture of the overall experience to people considering making the trip.

The Four Seasons next door is more luxurious, and has a lei greeting, but is significantly more expensive on cash prices and is dramatically more expensive to the average cost when using DVC points… (direct, resale, or rented).

Any resort perk would come out of the annual operating budget and not the upfront buy ins into the DVC system (and especially not resale buy ins).

Given how jam packed the place is, I can only imagine the amount of plumerias they would have to go through on a daily basis just to see them in a trash can or around Stitch within 3 hours of arrival.

I think cash guests possibly have more of a complaint here because of the $$$, but can you imagine if they gave cash guests lei’s and not the DVC members…. or if they game them to DVC direct and not cash guests…. or to DVC Direct and Cash, but not resale…. talk about Disney creating class warfare…
 
  1. I would love to have leis especially since it will be our first visit. I'd happily split the difference so to speak of what it costs to buy the service at the airport, meaning make it an option when you check in at disney but have Disney provide it at cost. Obviously the fee at the airport is to make a profit for the company you pay. Also it would be nice. if Disney charged as an optional service to make it less for DVC members.
  2. For the chairs I read the rules it says you can't save chairs and chairs un occupied for an hour items are picked up and can be retrieved at lost and found. Do they actually enforce this? If they don't guests especially DVC owners that this is their home resort need to complain to management. Since it's printed on their website if I can't get a seat I will walk over to a cast member and reference the policy ask them to note the time and come back and the ask CM to remove the items and let me take the seat. We always offer seats up to families if our kids are in the pool and the area is full. we usually say just move when our kids come back and tell them it's possible our kids will let them stay. If Cm aren't enforcing this rule why should i bother to get. awrist band each day if I know I'm actually a person allowed to use the premises and why shouldn't I decide to let my kids age 10 and over being charged as an adult to be unsupervised despite the rules saying the age is 12 and above. Disney needs to expect all rules to be followed by all guests or none of the rules to be followed.
 
I wasn't mad about the requested $5 tip per bag. In the moment, it was more of a "What the heck? Holy cow." It wasn't a "I'm never coming here again!" If you go back and read what I actually said about the $5/bag tip (in the link you included), I actually said, "the suggested $5/bag to tip Bell Services for both dropping off your bags and picking them up was a little annoying."

We had such a great time last month at Aulani (our 1st time) that we're going to buy a DVC resale contract at that resort.

I never said that Aulani felt 'low rent' due to no leis. Maybe you're thinking of a different person.

A general suggestion for travelers to Hawaii to consider:
You can arrange ahead of time for someone to meet you at the airport gate WITH LEIS. https://leigreeting.com/oahu-lei-greetings/. I haven't used this service myself.
Im glad you liked it enough to consider purchasing DVC, imagine after you spend thousands on Aulani DVC and then someone suggests you stay at another place in Hawaii and not at Aulani where you own DVC because you have a complaint about something. That is where I was coming from.

Also if I misquoted you I apologize.
 
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Anyone can feel satisfied or unsatisfied on anything based on their initial expectations. I think we can all agree that Aulani is a special place that also has the pros and cons of being a constantly packed Disney resort. There are some areas where they could definitely up their game…. and there is nothing wrong with bringing them up…. however IMO a pure take down post with only negatives does not paint an accurate picture of the overall experience to people considering making the trip.

The Four Seasons next door is more luxurious, and has a lei greeting, but is significantly more expensive on cash prices and is dramatically more expensive to the average cost when using DVC points… (direct, resale, or rented).

Any resort perk would come out of the annual operating budget and not the upfront buy ins into the DVC system (and especially not resale buy ins).

Given how jam packed the place is, I can only imagine the amount of plumerias they would have to go through on a daily basis just to see them in a trash can or around Stitch within 3 hours of arrival.

I think cash guests possibly have more of a complaint here because of the $$$, but can you imagine if they gave cash guests lei’s and not the DVC members…. or if they game them to DVC direct and not cash guests…. or to DVC Direct and Cash, but not resale…. talk about Disney creating class warfare…
I totally get what you are saying, thats why I never said anything about the OP post, since Ive never been I cannot comment on room conditions, nor do I think posting only negatives is constructive. I was replying to the specific thing regarding Leis
 
I totally get what you are saying, thats why I never said anything about the OP post, since Ive never been I cannot comment on room conditions, nor do I think posting only negatives is constructive. I was replying to the specific thing regarding Leis
Off topic: The Coconut Mint Mojitos are absolutely incredible. That’s our new “during the day” beverage of choice…. thank you for your service Lava Flow.

Mai Tai’s still rule the night…
 
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Im glad you liked it enough to consider purchasing DVC, imagine after you spend thousands on Aulani DVC and then someone suggests you stay at another place in Hawaii and not at Aulani where you own DVC because you have a complaint about something. That is where I was coming from.

Also if I misquoted you I apologize.

Fair point.

My feedback to the OP re: the suggestion of staying elsewhere wasn't intended as a personal attack to you or anyone. Sometimes, some people can end up feeling kind of burned out on staying at a particular place every vacation. If the lei greeting is a "I absolutely must have ___" kind of thing, then either one should consider NOT staying at a resort that does not offer a lei greeting included in the room rate OR one should find other alternatives.

Re: staying at other places -
I fully expect that I won't want to stay at Aulani on every vacation. I'm going to want to go to WDW sometimes instead of Hawaii. So we'll go to WDW instead sometimes. For future Hawaii trips, 1 of my kids has already asked if we could try visiting a different island next time. Sure! If we're DVC owners by the time that trip comes around, then we might start at a different island and end with a few nights at Aulani.

I do think that it's totally fine for the OP to discuss their concerns/issues here. In another thread, for example, somebody had mentioned how it was a bit frustrating that some of the special effects for the menehune scavenger hunt didn't work. If my kids were young enough to be interested in that, then yeah, I'd probably be frustrated, too.

Similarly, if somebody feels that getting a lei is really important to them and they really liked getting them for free when Aulani first opened, yeah, I'd probably feel frustrated, too, that it hasn't been an option for awhile now. It's not on the proverbial menu anymore. Does it suck? YES. Is there anything that you can do about it to get Disney to change its mind? Probably not.

It's sort of like when a restaurant at a Disney park changes its menu a bit. For example, at the Hungry Bear restaurant at DL what feels like not too many years ago, they had a fried green tomato sandwich. That was an awesome sandwich. I got it every time we went. Then they changed the menu. No longer available. Then for awhile, you could get that sandwich at Cafe Orleans, but that would mean a TS meal instead of QS...and my kids don't like any of the other stuff on the Cafe Orleans menu. Did that suck? YES.

Did it ruin our trip? No. Did I pout for a little bit about it? Yeah, but then at some point, I had to move on. It's no longer on the menu...so you either continue at that place & order something else OR you go elsewhere.

Free leis aren't on the menu anymore at Aulani. So get a lei from elsewhere. Or don't. Be frustrated, get it all out, totally normal. Submit a formal complaint to Aulani management about it. But expect that it likely won't change any time soon.

In the meantime, for a fee, somebody can meet you at your gate at the airport and provide a lei greeting. That's even before you get to Aulani. It is free? No. But if a lei was really important to me, I'd think that was an ok alternative that would get everybody in my travel group in the Hawaii vacation mood.
 
Personally, I'm just getting tired of the negativity on here. By "here", I'm referring to the entire Dis Boards, not this thread in particular. It seems like the petty complaining is worse than ever. On the "Disney News, Discussion & an Element of Fun" thread in the Rumors section, people are seriously spending 2-3 pages of posts getting mad at Disney and at each other because they don't like the news that Muppets 3D in HS might be taken away - although that's an unsubstantiated rumor and nothing else.

A trip report with pros and cons is helpful and constructive, whereas a rant thread does nothing to help anyone else reading it.

I guess this is the era of social media, though, where everyone thinks that everyone else should care about their opinion.

Okay, so that's my rant...
 
Personally, I'm just getting tired of the negativity on here. By "here", I'm referring to the entire Dis Boards, not this thread in particular. It seems like the petty complaining is worse than ever. On the "Disney News, Discussion & an Element of Fun" thread in the Rumors section, people are seriously spending 2-3 pages of posts getting mad at Disney and at each other because they don't like the news that Muppets 3D in HS might be taken away - although that's an unsubstantiated rumor and nothing else.

A trip report with pros and cons is helpful and constructive, whereas a rant thread does nothing to help anyone else reading it.

I guess this is the era of social media, though, where everyone thinks that everyone else should care about their opinion.

Okay, so that's my rant...
I agree a pro and con trip report is the way to go. It’s rare that people are 100% happy. People complaining about the chair situation at Aulani actually helped me though, because I now don’t expect to get any chairs while there that I didn’t pay for, so at least I’m going with a low bar expectation on that one part of the trip. Im sure I’ll have cons when I get back but I’m sure there will be a lot pros as well.

People complain in the FB groups as well about lots of things they are currently loving to complain regarding D23 announcements (rivers of America etc)
 
Personally, I'm just getting tired of the negativity on here. By "here", I'm referring to the entire Dis Boards, not this thread in particular. It seems like the petty complaining is worse than ever. On the "Disney News, Discussion & an Element of Fun" thread in the Rumors section, people are seriously spending 2-3 pages of posts getting mad at Disney and at each other because they don't like the news that Muppets 3D in HS might be taken away - although that's an unsubstantiated rumor and nothing else.

A trip report with pros and cons is helpful and constructive, whereas a rant thread does nothing to help anyone else reading it.

I guess this is the era of social media, though, where everyone thinks that everyone else should care about their opinion.

Okay, so that's my rant...
I remind myself that Fan is short for Fanatic
 
Personally, I'm just getting tired of the negativity on here. By "here", I'm referring to the entire Dis Boards, not this thread in particular. It seems like the petty complaining is worse than ever. On the "Disney News, Discussion & an Element of Fun" thread in the Rumors section, people are seriously spending 2-3 pages of posts getting mad at Disney and at each other because they don't like the news that Muppets 3D in HS might be taken away - although that's an unsubstantiated rumor and nothing else.

A trip report with pros and cons is helpful and constructive, whereas a rant thread does nothing to help anyone else reading it.

I guess this is the era of social media, though, where everyone thinks that everyone else should care about their opinion.

Okay, so that's my rant...

I see where you're coming from. Too much negativity can be grating. I try to remember that people's opinions are just that, opinions.

I think most of us on these forums have a strong emotional attachment to Disney the brand, the characters and motion pictures, the experiences we've had in the theme parks and resorts, etc. And along with that comes a certain expectation of very high standards. When those standards are not quite met, it can be disappointing and frustrating.

But really, I look at it as two sides of the same coin: it's people feeling passionate about the brand and the experiences, wanting Disney to be true to its legacy and live up to its potential. So I would prefer to read people's complaints (even if those can seem petty) rather than see apathy or no engagement at all because folks don't really care.
 
But if it was a systemic problem, then it would be resort-wide. And, according to multiple people on this thread, you seem to be the only one with such bad luck
We’ve stayed at Aulani many, many times, and have never, ever encountered a “filthy” room. I just don’t think this would ever happen, frankly.
 
Personally, I'm just getting tired of the negativity on here. By "here", I'm referring to the entire Dis Boards, not this thread in particular. It seems like the petty complaining is worse than ever. On the "Disney News, Discussion & an Element of Fun" thread in the Rumors section, people are seriously spending 2-3 pages of posts getting mad at Disney and at each other because they don't like the news that Muppets 3D in HS might be taken away - although that's an unsubstantiated rumor and nothing else.

A trip report with pros and cons is helpful and constructive, whereas a rant thread does nothing to help anyone else reading it.

I guess this is the era of social media, though, where everyone thinks that everyone else should care about their opinion.

Okay, so that's my rant...

All these lei complaints are just boring and repetitive. Most people don’t care.
Complaining about complaints on a message board seems a tad askew ….
 
Complaining about complaints on a message board seems a tad askew ….
But complaining about people complaining about complaints is even more askew, especially if those complaining about the complaints are complaining that the complaints, especially the absence of leis, have already been discussed, literally, a thousand times…in which case, the complaints are indeed boring and repetitive.
 
But complaining about people complaining about complaints is even more askew, especially if those complaining about the complaints are complaining that the complaints, especially the absence of leis, have already been discussed, literally, a thousand times…in which case, the complaints are indeed boring and repetitive.
Not everyone has had their chance to complain about the Leis, until recently Leis at Aulani were not on my radar and I had no need to care about them. So this is really only my 2nd chance to voice my complaints. So just because others have complained before I have to keep my opinion to myself?
 
People complaining about the chair situation at Aulani actually helped me though, because I now don’t expect to get any chairs while there that I didn’t pay for, so at least I’m going with a low bar expectation on that one part of the trip
FWIW, at least during the time of year we go (early December) chairs are not a huge issue. Yes it’s hard to get front row right by the pool midday but usually there’s something pool side. The beach chairs are very easy to get that time of year too. That said, usually we do 2 cabana days while we’re there. I do wish the CMs would enforce the rules about reserving chairs but I can see how that would lead to angry guests etc.
 
Our 2 bedroom was in good shape, but it was filthy. Kitchen not properly cleaned, signs of surfaces not being properly wiped down everywhere. But that’s more of a sign of poor management not hiring enough cleaning staff so they have time to do the job properly.

Also, I really miss the leis. It was a beautiful welcoming gesture and I loved it.
And what, exactly, does ‘filthy” mean? Was dirt and trash strewn across the room, like some sort of abandoned encampment? Were the walls caked with grease and grime? Was mold creeping up the walls? Were uneaten food and candy wrappers scattered about the kitchen?

If a few surfaces, apparently, needed a “wipe down,” and of course I'm not sure they did, was that really the end of the world? Might you have been overreacting a tad?
 
Not everyone has had their chance to complain about the Leis, until recently Leis at Aulani were not on my radar and I had no need to care about them. So this is really only my 2nd chance to voice my complaints. So just because others have complained before I have to keep my opinion to myself?
Thank you for soliciting my opinion. My vote on that would be yes.

To expand on that a bit as an additional edit, the leis have now been gone for years and years. And years! Many hotels have instituted the exact same policy, including one of, if not the best hotel on Waikiki, the Hakekulani, where we stayed for a few pre Aulani days in June.

If they mean that much to you, you could potentially choose another hotel that hands them out (a few still do), and stay there! Maybe if enough people “vote with their pocketbook,” Aulani will notice and bring them back! One could argue that by continuing to stay at Aulani, you’re offering tacit acceptance of this now longstanding policy.
 
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But complaining about people complaining about complaints is even more askew, especially if those complaining about the complaints are complaining that the complaints, especially the absence of leis, have already been discussed, literally, a thousand times…in which case, the complaints are indeed boring and repetitive.
lol observations aren’t complaints about complaining therefore my assessment of being askew is affirmed
 












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