Solve a debate in my home...

Now here is the debate. I did not leave a tip. My other half thought I should have left something. I was so angry I didnt even want to pay for dinner, but obviously I did.

First time I have ever not tipped in my life. Would you have tipped this little twerp?
I always tip at least a little bit, but in this case I would have not tipped at all either. He should not have brought you the drink to begin with, he should have removed it without being asked, he should not have made you wait for the manager and he should not have lied about trying to contact the manager. He struck out and then some!
 
WOW!

I've been a waitress on & off for years & have never heard of such a thing. There is NO way I would have left a tip!!! JERK
 
I this case I would not have tipped. If this is a national chain I would also email home office. It is always a good way to get a gift card . ; )
 
No!
I would not tip

And if you paid with a credit card I'd keep an eye on the account and make sure he didn't add a tip himself. He's already proven himself to be dishonest - I wouldn't put it past him.
 

I agree with the "leave a quarter/dime/penny" as a tip.

I do have a question... the title of the thread is "Solve a debate in my home". What's the debate and what argument are folks usings?
 
No way would I have left a tip. He wasted your time by making you wait for a manager he didn't even talk to. I would have been livid!
 
I have always heard that for poor service, you should leave a $0.25 tip so that the server knows their service was terrible, and that you did not forget to tip.

In this case, if it had been us, we wouldn't have waited the 20 minutes for a manager, we would have gone to find him, and we would have left a quarter.
 
I agree with the "leave a quarter/dime/penny" as a tip.

I do have a question... the title of the thread is "Solve a debate in my home". What's the debate and what argument are folks usings?

The debate was the other half thought a tip should be left. OP didn't.

I have once written on the tip line that it wasn't brilliant to be rude to the customers.
 
I agree with the "leave a quarter/dime/penny" as a tip.

I do have a question... the title of the thread is "Solve a debate in my home". What's the debate and what argument are folks usings?

My fiance thinks it is awful that I left no tip. He wanted to leave 10% ( we normally tip at least 20% usually a little more) because the food was good. My fiance was embarrased that I left no tip. But I think the server was so bad, he earned his zero tip. I was pretty angry.
 
We went out to dinner to celebrate my new job. I wanted to order a drink. The server was a bit pushy and obviously in a hurry. I told him I needed a minute to look over the drink menu, he huffed a little. He ran off and came back with a drink that he said he knew I would love. I never ordered it, I told him no thank you (I dont drink tequila) and told him what I wanted. He left his drink suggestion on the table, but did go get what I ordered. I told him we didnt want the suggested drink & he could take it away. He just left it and said not to worry about it. It sat there for the whole meal, untouched.

Anyway when the bill arrived we were charged 12 bucks for his suggested drink, which was still sitting on the table. I called him over & thought it was a mistake since we obviously didnt order or drink it. He said drinks were not returnable and he could NOT take it off. He said it is not his fault I didnt drink it, and someone had to pay for it.This really ticked me off, since I didnt order it and didnt want it. I asked to speak to the manager. We waited over 20 minutes and the server came back and told us the manager was too busy. At this point I was getting more angry.

I went to the hostess & asked for the manager. The manager came right over, advised he was not asked to come see us by our server. I showed him the full drink and explained what had happened. He took it off the bill and apologized for the mix up. He didnt really seem to care all that much.

Now here is the debate. I did not leave a tip. My other half thought I should have left something. I was so angry I didnt even want to pay for dinner, but obviously I did.

First time I have ever not tipped in my life. Would you have tipped this little twerp?

I would not have tipped the little twerp.
 
I would of not tipped either. On the other hand my dh would have. We have had a recent experience where the food was awful and the wait staff was rude and very slow and I didn't want to tip or tip very little and my dh insisted on tipping 15 percent.
 
Too bad there wasn't a way to just tip the hostess and the busboy because I believe their tips come out of the tip pool too.
 
Now why in the world would you write to corporate? All you would do is get the manager in trouble, who actually took care of it as soon as they knew about it. What more do you want them to do? The server never told the manager. they can't solve a problem unless they know there is one.

And we don't know what the manager did or didn't do to the server, they may have disciplined them for the incident already.

I would absolutely write corporate if it was a chain restaurant. Even if it's a local chain I would write corporate and I have! Not to get anything free but to let them know about a problem I had. If corporate doesn't know about it they can't follow up with this obvious training issue. If the manager has already taken care of it fine, but corporate should know as well.

I agree under those circumstances I wouldn't have left a tip either. Maybe that server will think twice before he pulls it on someone else. Seriously I'd have to give a lot of consideration to eating there again especially after the way the manager handled the situation.

I agree! We had a situation that was similar, the service was very slow, the server was having a bad day, some of the food arrived steaming hot some was cold. It was not a good experience. I spoke with the manager on our way out (this was a national chain, we were regulars at this particular location which was 15-30 minutes away from home. We ate at this location because it was the closest to us and the kids loved eating there) and let him know we were unhappy. He didn't seem to care, he apologized but that was it, didn't offer to lower the tip (we were a group of 10 so tip was added), didn't offer to do anything at all. He said something to the effect of "you should have returned the food if it wasn't to your standards" to which I replied, "we told the server the dishes were cold, she didn't say or do anything. we asked about having them reheated and she rolled her eyes and simply left not returning until we had finished eating". And yes, we did finish eating but we were starving by that point!! I was less then impressed, my Step-Dad was actually mad that we paid the bill! He said we should have just walked out after we ate. I understood but let him know we ate there quite a bit and didn't want to mess that up. The more I thought about it the more upset I became so I contacted corporate the following day. Corporate apologized profusely, sent a lot of gift cards and let us know they would use this as a chance for retraining. We went back a couple weeks later and received the same kind of service......we used the gift cards, contacted corporate, let them know that no gift cards were necessary as we wouldn't be eating there again and wished them luck retraining. I heard after that they fired the whole management staff and quite a few servers and brought in new people because there were so many complaints. We still don't eat there tho. :)

My fiance thinks it is awful that I left no tip. He wanted to leave 10% ( we normally tip at least 20% usually a little more) because the food was good. My fiance was embarrased that I left no tip. But I think the server was so bad, he earned his zero tip. I was pretty angry.

He earned his 0 tip, you are correct. However I probably would have done what others said, left a tiny tip so he knew I didn't just forget. For instance, let's say the bill (without the extra drink) was $44.75, I would have left $45 and been done with it. If I was paying with a credit/debit card I would have written on the receipt, no tip left for extremely poor service. lol You did the right thing OP, his tip should be based on the service you received, not the quality of the food. Kitchen staff does not get any part of the tip so your DFi's argument makes no sense. :) My Gma always tips 1 penny if she gets poor service, she says it's more insulting then leaving nothing. And I would imagine he would know why he didn't get a tip, especially since you spoke with his manager and he probably got reprimanded for it. :)

PS Congrats on your new JOB!!!!!! :)
 
I would have not tipped and then I would have hunted down the twirp and informed him why he wasn't getting one! I would have been livid over the drink, then waiting 20 minutes for a manager he didn't get would have pushed me over the edge!
 
No I would not have tipped either. I never brought into the "must leave" some tip. IMO, a tip is a reward for service.
 
Both my husband and I have worked in food service and it is very rare that we won't tip. This would qualify as a no tip situation for sure.
 
My fiance thinks it is awful that I left no tip. He wanted to leave 10% ( we normally tip at least 20% usually a little more) because the food was good. My fiance was embarrased that I left no tip. But I think the server was so bad, he earned his zero tip. I was pretty angry.

I am a server at AppleBees.

We make 2.13 an hr and depend on tips we have to earn our tips. Maybe your server was having a bad day or maybe there was a promotion they really wanted to win but regardless that goes against almost every service industry rule there is.

1.You are NEVER rude to customers ( not even when they pour drinks on you or scream in your face you let management deal with the problems)

2.Get the manager at the first sign of a problem if you don't have the "power" to fix it. At Applebees we cannot remove food or drinks ourselves so we have to get management

I have had bad nights and slipped up got an order wrong, brought out a plate or drink with something missing or wrong, Been busy on a Fri or Sat and not noticed a table for 5 min or gotten overwhelmed and let drinks get empty sometimes you get an awesome customer that leaves you a great tip anyways sometimes you get stiffed even if there was very little you could have done differently. The customer comes for the experience not to help the server make a living.

Now people who leave no tip just because they are cheap well yeah if you come in more than once the hostess is going to have to seat you with the newest server because the rest of us are going to refuse to work for free.

Even as a server I think you did the right thing.
 
I would have wanted him to know I didn't leave a tip by leaving a couple of pennies on the table.

A bunch of us girls went out for dessert and drinks one night and our waiter was awful. We were very friendly and he acted like we were interrupting his night. The restaurant was NOT busy. He took forever to bring our orders and was just awful all around. NEver any explanation or apologies. We're lightweights and had a couple of drinks so his tip was a bunch of pennies we dug out and left in a lewd shape (not a family restaurant!)
 





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