So... Where is the next DVC resort going to be?

[starbox]

recession island?

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Castaway Cay...
I don't really think it would be practical, but it would be nice!!

MG

 

[Dean]

Castaway Cay...
I don't really think it would be practical, but it would be nice!!

MG

In many ways it's a good choice but cost to build would be something and I don't think they could legally use the cruise ships as the means of transportation for such stays if they stop in the UY during that time.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

In many ways it's a good choice but cost to build would be something and I don't think they could legally use the cruise ships as the means of transportation for such stays if they stop in the UY during that time.

Yup... The transportation is why I don't believe it's practical.
Even if they could use the ships, the flexibility of check-in/out days would be limited.
I also thought of some sort of rotation between the cruise and the island, but that would be very complex. You know... Some get off the ship for DVC, while some DVCers get on the ship for the remainder of the cruise.

MG

 

[jennypenny]

I wonder if they'll build something closer to the cruise port. I've always thought that the mistake they made with VB was building it a little too far from the cruise ports. It's not close to Disney's port, but it's not close to the southern ports either (FL and Miami). If it were near PC it would be a nice place to round out a cruise vacation. They made other mistakes also with VB, but I think that was the main one.

I think transportation is a main issue, which is why BLT and BCV have had the fastest sales. I like the idea of building a resort along the epcot monorail line near that old runway. I also think the Richard Petty thing is a big waste of prime real estate and could be another MK area resort. (I like the RP thing, but is should be near WWoS).

Honestly, when Disney sold off the land for the non-Disney resorts out past the campground and scrapped Eagle Pines, I figured they were done building stand-along DVC resorts.

 

[AUTigerFan]

Yup... The transportation is why I don't believe it's practical.
Even if they could use the ships, the flexibility of check-in/out days would be limited.
I also thought of some sort of rotation between the cruise and the island, but that would be very complex. You know... Some get off the ship for DVC, while some DVCers get on the ship for the remainder of the cruise.

MG

I have heard that the bugs are a huge issue at night at Castaway Cay...so much so that the few CM's who live there have to stay indoors after sundown.

 

[Dean]

I also thought of some sort of rotation between the cruise and the island, but that would be very complex. You know... Some get off the ship for DVC, while some DVCers get on the ship for the remainder of the cruise.

MG

I don't think they could do it that way with the current homeland security rules. RCCL used to have a ship that picked up and let off in both NO and Tampa and that had to be stopped. IF they could work it where it was legal to have some get off and some stay on, I could see this working out fairly well. You'd create land/sea package not that much different from what they do now but with a set rotation of 3/4 days on the island for the Dream/Wonder and 7 day rotations possibly for the Magic. It'd still have to be a fairly low volume, high cost option but I think there are possibilities if the construction and maint costs weren't too much. I think it'd have to be cash and not DVC though to make it workable.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Nowhere I hope. I hope they are done and concentrate on what they have already.

 

[CrazyDuck]

DVC is coming to the national harbor in DC. The wife and I were there the other night, it seems like it'll be an interesting setup.

Nah I don't think so... At least not for DVC... With DVC you want to build in a place that people will want to return year after year. WDW, DLR, and Hawaii are all places where people like to visit every year. No one wants a history lesson every year. DC is a place you do once or twice in your life... Not every year!

A lot of people like to do annual Ski/Snowboard trips... I'd be surprised if someplace like Tahoe, Aspen, Salt Lake, Vail were not considered for a DVC location because those would be great year round locations... People can do the snow activities in the winter and in the summer they can mt. bike, golf, fish, boating, rafting etc...

 

[dvc_john]

A lot of people like to do annual Ski/Snowboard trips... I'd be surprised if someplace like Tahoe, Aspen, Salt Lake, Vail were not considered for a DVC location because those would be great year round locations... People can do the snow activities in the winter and in the summer they can mt. bike, golf, fish, boating, rafting etc...

Beaver Creek Colorado (near Vail) was to have a DVC timeshare, but it never came about (just like Newport Beach California and New York City). The site is now a Hyatt timeshare.

 

[CrazyDuck]

Beaver Creek Colorado (near Vail) was to have a DVC timeshare, but it never came about. The site is now a Hyatt timeshare.

That's so sad... I love Beaver Creek!!!

 

[ILuvMulan]

Nah I don't think so... At least not for DVC... With DVC you want to build in a place that people will want to return year after year. WDW, DLR, and Hawaii are all places where people like to visit every year. No one wants a history lesson every year. DC is a place you do once or twice in your life... Not every year! ...

Not to be disagreeable, but we would love a DC DVC. I know I am raising 3 serious nerds, but my kids have been to DC three times, are going back next month, and want to go back for spring break 2011. The wonderful thing about DC is once you get there almost everything is free except the metro. If they put the DVC at National Harbor and it is near the metro we would absolutely be buying points!!!DC is like Disney in that you can never see it all.

 

[Brian Noble]

they put the DVC at National Harbor and it is near the metro

Unfortunately, the National Harbor plot has very poor transit connectivity to the District at the moment---they run a shuttle bus to a metro stop. Possibly an increase in water taxi service would help, but you'd still have to transfer to get almost anywhere interesting.

In my view, they may have repeated the "skimp on land costs" mistake that Dean alluded to above.

 

[mickeys girl 52]

I am not so sure that monorail access will play into their plans. They have already shown that they can sell out places with no monorail access. I just hope that, if they build one in a place with no theme park direct access, that they don't make the mistake they did with SSR. The are a bunch of problems with SSR, but the main ones are that it is HUGE, not near a park, and the theming is just "ok." If you are going to build a resort away from the parks, it has to be themed beyond comparison.

I believe they are trying to "Jazz" up Saratoga. They are adding a 2nd cool pool with a large slide and counter meal . I think Disney realizes that many buy there but try to stay elsewhere when they can.

 

[oct2014]

Not to be disagreeable, but we would love a DC DVC. I know I am raising 3 serious nerds, but my kids have been to DC three times, are going back next month, and want to go back for spring break 2011. The wonderful thing about DC is once you get there almost everything is free except the metro. If they put the DVC at National Harbor and it is near the metro we would absolutely be buying points!!!DC is like Disney in that you can never see it all.

Agree! (I loved going to the museums as a kid.) But whether the logistics of that particular location work is beyond me. Still, if it happened I would seriously consider buying!

I think Disney realizes that many buy there but try to stay elsewhere when they can.

We bought at SSR and do enjoy staying there, although we want to at least check out the other resorts. I just think it works best for members that don't spend all of their time at WDW. It is kind of like telling someone to choose BLT if spending time at MK and BCV or BWV if spending time at Epcot and HS. For example, we always go to DTD and have some meals off property. In fact, we are planning a trip right now that we would only consider OKW, SSR, or AKV because we will be spending much of our time at the convention center. I realize that is not the typical WDW trip, but I'm sure occasionally DVCers go to other attractions in the area! Like the commentary on some of the other speculations, whether the location is convenient to attractions in the area can greatly impact interest. The problem with SSR is that it is convenient if you want to spend your money outside of WDW!

Caroline

 

[Dean]

While I think there are things they can do to improve the demand of SSR, I don't think they can compensate for it's location and size enough to even out the demand compared to the more destination DVC resorts. Booking categories should help some as well. One of the best options was left on the table initially, lower points more comparable to OKW.

 

[TLPL]

I agree with Dean, SSR's point requirement is too high, compara to the nearby lowest point per night anywhere OKW, or highly themed AKL or the great location of BWV. I only stay at SSR if there is nothing else available.

 

[crewmatt]

Hey sorry for my lag in posting. So there is no real construction going on that I saw, probably waiting for spring to start digging and pouring foundation. There are signs all over about it, and maps laying out what things are going to look like. If you're from the area, think Reston 4 years ago.

I'm curious to see how well the satellite DVC's are going to work out. Obviously Disney is just trying to cancel probably one of the largest qualms they hear from purchasers which is oh I'll only be able to use my membership at Disney World or Disneyland, as well as to decrease its dependence on the theme parks. By building these offsite locations they allow for people to travel more outside of WDW with their membership. I've never seen HH or VB so I don't really know what their like, but I hope the one thing that Disney tries to retain is the whole idea of entering like a story realm. Thats the biggest perk I've seen of staying on site at disney (sure the transportation etc is nice and I love all the other perks) is that you're not staying at a hotel, you're staying in some location, be it New Orleans, Carribean Beach, Yachtclub, and obviously Animal Kingdom and Poly just exemplify it. It'd be really nice if they managed to set up some kind of turn the whole city/location into a resort with organized trips/etc. There's a ton to do in and around DC, and Disney could really turn that location into something incredible if they tried to make doing everything in DC as easy as it is doing everytihng in the parks.

 

[NewDCLGuy]

Vegas is overbuilt for timeshares but it is not as seasonal as many places.

IIRC, Disney's idea for Vegas wasn't a timeshare in Vegas, but a Palm Springs-esc resort near Vegas.

The was something kinda-like that at "Lake Las Vegas" - a resort area 30 minutes outside of town. It's been a financial disaster, with huge losses on the gold courses, private home owners and the resorts themselves - one a Loews, the other a Ritz-Carlton (the only Ritz-Carlton to ever go bankrupt).

I'm guessing that idea is now dead.

 

[La2kw]

While I think there are things they can do to improve the demand of SSR, I don't think they can compensate for it's location and size enough to even out the demand compared to the more destination DVC resorts. Booking categories should help some as well. One of the best options was left on the table initially, lower points more comparable to OKW.

As much as I enjoy staying at SSR, I agree that the points are too high. I also agree that booking categories would make it more desirable. However, one of the things we enjoy about it is that it is a quieter resort, we love OKW for the same reasons. I find the Epcot resort area way too crowded and AKV too far removed from everything.