So about this spy balloon...

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Does this count as a political topic? If so, sorry, please delete... I just find it kind of creepy and was wondering what people were thinking about it as a current event.

I'm trying to tell myself it's not a big deal but it kind of feels like it could be a big deal. Someone convince me it's not!
 

It seems China is doing land surveillance to buy land in large chunks for investment purposes. Given the locations it is flying over and their history with doing that, it makes sense.

That said, I don't understand why we haven't shot it down yet. It's flying mainly over open land.
 
It seems China is doing land surveillance to buy land in large chunks for investment purposes. Given the locations it is flying over and their history with doing that, it makes sense.

That said, I don't understand why we haven't shot it down yet. It's flying mainly over open land.
Do you have a link for that? I looked for the investment angle mentioned and couldn't find it...
 
Thanks for the links! So a possible connection there for sure.
 
I'd imagine that both an overreaction (shooting it down) or an underreaction (ignoring it) could be in China's interest. Plus, simply it existing and people knowing it exists is enough to rile up the partisan discourse. Which could also play into its intended purpose. Maybe there is something useful on it they are testing, but seeing how and where the media-play goes because of, "squirrel." Is useful knowledge too. Manipulation doesn't actually require something nefarious. We seem to be quite capable of making stuff up to fill the gaps on our own. I might guess China wants it to be shot down. I think China wants the US to show its hand, and so it would behoove the US to not be manipulated into doing so. Which is why I'm okay so far with the "We know what you are doing, you aren't slipping something by us, but we're not going to show you our gun too." I know some people like to wave it around, but it is advantageous if you know what playbook, weaponry and how itchy the trigger finger the other side has.

The worrisome part, IMO, isn't the balloon itself, but whatever greater strategy China is implementing because they think it will pay off in the real endgame. What they hope to learn from this demonstration, and not from whatever surveillance equipment is physically on the balloon.
 
There are spy satellites all over. And this type of spying is nothing new and has gone on for ages. I think hopemax is on to something. It's a slow news week and this is the latest thing for talking heads to rile the people up.

We have many other domestic issues to be more concerned about.
 
There are spy satellites all over. And this type of spying is nothing new and has gone on for ages. I think hopemax is on to something. It's a slow news week and this is the latest thing for talking heads to rile the people up.

We have many other domestic issues to be more concerned about.
Who is doing the spying and where and at what point in time is a big issue. We citizens get to be concerned about domestic issues perhaps more than our state and/or federal can realistically but make no mistake we don't have many more things to be concerned about when it comes to actions of other countries to ours. Not even a U.S. thing this is something the governments of many countries as a whole have to pay attention to you get the luxury of not I guess
 
The balloon is apparently at a high enough altitude (60,000+ feet) that shooting it down isn't practical and/or our aircraft can't reach that altitude. It sounds like this sort of thing has happened in the past but seems to be a bigger deal now that it has become public knowledge. Various articles I have seen from the usual list of armchair experts have all the answers about what should be done.

The US likely has a number of spy satellites orbiting the earth and pointed at various countries but I doubt we talk openly about what they are doing.
 
I’m confused. Did they finally shoot it down, or did it self-destruct or something?
Very strange situation.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ana-Chinese-balloon-spotted-U-S-airspace.html
Well I live in the middle of the country and it was sighted (ETA: corrected word), unless it was a case of mistaken identity by residents (with photographs), a Cessna pilot, a United Airlines pilot, a FedEx pilot, an Air Canada pilot and an American Airlines pilot who all reported seeing it as well. I agree it's confusing situation though.
 
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It seems China is doing land surveillance to buy land in large chunks for investment purposes. Given the locations it is flying over and their history with doing that, it makes sense.

That said, I don't understand why we haven't shot it down yet. It's flying mainly over open land.
There are far cheaper ways to survey land. I find this to be hogwash. They don't need to use a spy satellite to look at the land. Of course it will fly mainly over open land. Most of the western United States is open land. There are however many sensitive places in those open areas.
 
What I've read is it provides no greater visibility than what they can already see with satellites, and is well above altitude to interfere with any commercial aviation. It would be interesting to discover what the purpose is. Also how are they certain of its origin.
 
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