Snow White

[mom2rtk]

I honestly don't believe any of the "controversey" surrounding the movie hurt it that much. Most people don't pay attention to any of that. Most of the hand-wringing was from people who wouldn't have seen it anyway. No, I think it's more the victim of Snow White not actually being that popular anymore, no songs that are familliar or that really hit, and a generally tepid marketing campoaign. It just has a "wait for streaming" vibe.

Movies can be big hits without characters being popular before they came out. Make a good movie, and people will come.

 

[BrianL]

Movies can be big hits without characters being popular before they came out. Make a good movie, and people will come.

That is a patnently untrue statement. Tons of good movies - heck, great movies - don't make a lot of money, and lots of terrible ones do. It happens all the time. Best Picture winner Anora has only made $54M worldwide. Snow White is already at $143M, but which is the better movie? Of course, that is 100% subjective as my point is that how "good" a movie is not the primary driver of box-office success.

 

[DisneyDebbie]

I saw it opening weekend, I enjoyed it! Heck I even liked the modern spin of the story

 

[Minnie1222]

I had to laugh tonight as I sat down to take in some news sites. I came across a Snow White article on Outkick and they noted that it's IMDB rating is stellar bomb at 1.6, but wait there's more, get this... it has a worse rating than the epically bad Battlefield Earth, which stands at 2.5. Sorry to say that just made me laugh hard, getting beat out by Battlefield Earth should win it some award!

I've noticed that many of the critics are grown men, whereas the target audience for this movie are young princess-esque girly girls. A lot of men can't understand women their own age, yet these "experts" think they know what's good for little girly girls?

 

[Kennywood]

So men can't have an opinion?? Some of these men, myself included, saw the original when as children. Now that we're older, we treasure the memories of our youth and deeply resent when an actress goes out of her way to sully both the original movie and our memories.

 

[BrianL]

So men can't have an opinion?? Some of these men, myself included, saw the original when as children. Now that we're older, we treasure the memories of our youth and deeply resent when an actress goes out of her way to sully both the original movie and our memories.

Question though - how does someone saying that they don't like the original film sully your memories? Not everyone has to like every film that you do. She didn't even say that she didn't like it, she just called out some of the dated aspects of it. Regardless of how you feel about that, your memories are intact.

 

[jimmymc]

I had to laugh tonight as I sat down to take in some news sites. I came across a Snow White article on Outkick and they noted that it's IMDB rating is stellar bomb at 1.6, but wait there's more, get this... it has a worse rating than the epically bad Battlefield Earth, which stands at 2.5. Sorry to say that just made me laugh hard, getting beat out by Battlefield Earth should win it some award!

I would take that with a grain of salt. People who haven't seen it are review-bombing for political reasons.

 

[Suger Mag]

I would take that with a grain of salt. People who haven't seen it are review-bombing for political reasons.

almost everyone here who has commented who has actually seen it has seemed to enjoy it, even a few who went in expecting the worst.

 

[jimmymc]

almost everyone here who has commented who has actually seen it has seemed to enjoy it, even a few who went in expecting the worst.

Almost every real review I've seen is down the middle, between a 4 and 6 out of 10. There's no way there are tens of thousands of real, one star reviews.

 

[Suger Mag]

Almost every real review I've seen is down the middle, between a 4 and 6 out of 10. There's no way there are tens of thousands of real, one star reviews.

I personally could care less about reviews myself.

The anti-woke folks have had it out since the beginning for this movie. Ragging on Ziegler for every possible thing, ... ragging on the dwarfs... first the motion capture actors ....then the CGI..... making all sorts of assumptions.

And now folks are reporting Zeigler does a really nice job, is an amazing singer and the dwarfs are adorable.

I have a feeling it is going to be a sleeper and do better over the long term as it gains legs. It is a shame I think if it was not for all the hyper politicized atmosphere it would have been a bigger hit.

 

[TwoMisfits]

The anti-woke folks have had it out since the beginning for this movie. Ragging on Ziegler for every possible thing, ... ragging on the dwarfs... first the motion capture actors ....then the CGI..... making all sorts of assumptions.

And now folks are reporting Zeigler does a really nice job, is an amazing singer and the dwarfs are adorable.

I have a feeling it is going to be a sleeper and do better over the long term as it gains legs. It is a shame I think if it was not for all the hyper politicized atmosphere it would have been a bigger hit.

It may find its audience in streaming, but the die is cast for theatrical profitability. It won't be...and it won't be close.

To date, its worldwide (WW) performance has actually been worse than its domestic one, with China pulling it from almost all their theaters after yesterday (which is kinda unprecedented for Hollywood movies that are not censor-removed there). With only $142M WW to date, it will likely finish under its $270M budget in WW box office.

Blockbuster movies that are horrible tend to spur a base to show up and defend it (see Five Nights at Freddy's), giving their box office a certain lift. Blockbuster movies that are awesome tend to go huge (see Inside Out). Blockbuster movies that are middling/okay tend to have the most theatrical box office issues, especially if they don't seem to give the people what they want (see Mario for knowing100% how to do this), and just leave people unwilling to pay. And all this is compounded if they have an uphill marketing campaign.

 

[Disney Bobby]

I personally could care less about reviews myself.

The anti-woke folks have had it out since the beginning for this movie. Ragging on Ziegler for every possible thing, ... ragging on the dwarfs... first the motion capture actors ....then the CGI..... making all sorts of assumptions.

And now folks are reporting Zeigler does a really nice job, is an amazing singer and the dwarfs are adorable.

I have a feeling it is going to be a sleeper and do better over the long term as it gains legs. It is a shame I think if it was not for all the hyper politicized atmosphere it would have been a bigger hit.

Well, the thing about hyper politicized atmospheres is that you don't have to participate. She obviously didn't get that memo and went thermonuclear in the opposite direction. Dropping f bombs about the President and wishing bad things on half the country is NOT the ideal marketing strategy if you are trying to sell a movie to a broad audience. Her antics helped absolutely nobody and likely hurt some folks. Hard to gauge how much, but it certainly didn't help.

These young folks need better people looking out for them. Nobody is changing their mind about anything based on what some celebrity that has lived in a bubble for the 15 minutes they've been an adult thinks. The only thing that usually happens is they alienate people. It certainly doesn't help their careers. And these politicians on any side certainly wouldn't risk their careers if the situations were reversed.

Michael Jordan is a perfect example of the leadership that some of these young folks need. When asked why he didn't get involved more in politics, he said "Republicans buy sneakers too". He said it was partially in jest, but he also elaborated "I wasn't a politician when I was playing my sport. I was focused on my craft. Was that selfish? Probably. But that was my energy. That's where my energy was." A lot of young, talented people with future star potential would be much better served following his lead today.

 

[Gabby01]

Well, the thing about hyper politicized atmospheres is that you don't have to participate. She obviously didn't get that memo and went thermonuclear in the opposite direction. Dropping f bombs about the President and wishing bad things on half the country is NOT the ideal marketing strategy if you are trying to sell a movie to a broad audience. Her antics helped absolutely nobody and likely hurt some folks. Hard to gauge how much, but it certainly didn't help.

These young folks need better people looking out for them. Nobody is changing their mind about anything based on what some celebrity that has lived in a bubble for the 15 minutes they've been an adult thinks. The only thing that usually happens is they alienate people. It certainly doesn't help their careers. And these politicians on any side certainly wouldn't risk their careers if the situations were reversed.

Michael Jordan is a perfect example of the leadership that some of these young folks need. When asked why he didn't get involved more in politics, he said "Republicans buy sneakers too". He said it was partially in jest, but he also elaborated "I wasn't a politician when I was playing my sport. I was focused on my craft. Was that selfish? Probably. But that was my energy. That's where my energy was." A lot of young, talented people with future star potential would be much better served following his lead today.

I don't know if a lot of young people get training in PR, though. They're probably told a mix of things by a variety of people, including "don't say anything that would make the company look bad," "be yourself," and "always stand up for the truth, even if you're the only one doing it." Figuring out the time and place to do each of those things is something that takes experience--no one's born knowing how.

I think most of the things Zegler said would've been fine if she'd worded them a bit more gently, which again, is something you learn by experience.

I just don't see throwing a kid under the bus for something like this. We adults need to be the bigger person.

 

[Minnie1222]

There's no way there are tens of thousands of real, one star reviews.

This is why I don't care for reviews. We live in a society where anyone can give a 1-star to things they never experienced. Integrity is truly lost on some people.

 

[Psymonds]

It was a fun movie. DD enjoyed it, theater I was in was pretty full but it was saturday of opening weekend.

I personally do like modern takes on historic texts to bring vitality and perspective.

West Side Story, Pretty Woman, Moulin Rougue, "10 thing I hate about you), (and frankly I've seen live action Snow Whites that were not Disney, some were pretty risqué), but for something to be "timeless" it needs to speak to modern times.

Not their best work but not a 1 star movie either.

 

[GsR80]

Finally saw it today and really liked it. Feels like all the hate is overblown.

 

[iwannabdduck]

Finally saw it today and really liked it. Feels like all the hate is overblown.

Agree a million %. Sadly, this whole controversy seems to be more a reflection of what is wrong with our society these days than what is wrong with an actress, a movie, or an entertainment company. I miss Siskel & Ebert.

 

[longboard55]

We finally saw it. Do not get all the drama. Just a good family movie which are very rare these days.