Snitching or Giving a Possibly Needed Wake Up Call?

[hereyago]

A few days ago, there.were 2 brand new employees for my department.
They stayed for the day and were working.hard. At the end of the day, they composed a 3 page letter with copies of why they would not be returning adding names including my boss on naughty list and examples of poor attitudes and behavior.
Some think they snitched and others think stuff needed to be
opened up.


The only time I have done anything was after being interviewed by a manager, I turned.down the job because.he gave off a vibe that either he was on something or needed to be on something.

Have you had any similar experience?

 

[lovemygoofy]

I left my last job three months ago at the end of the contract. I left a very long detailed letter discussing why I would not be coming back to include names, situations and problems that needed to be addressed before anyone of quality would stay within the organization. I received a call about it within 2 weeks wanting to discuss further to try to lure me back in. I'm sure nothing will change though.

 

[usd2bmd]

I think things like that should happen... The environment in a lot of workplaces today is that you should just be thankful you have a job. So be quiet and deal with whatever garbage is thrown at you. Employers need to remember that having employees that are treated well and respected are more likely to be happy and perform better.

 

[cijay]

When I gave my resignation of a job I had loved but the 'new' management changed it 'for the better' (which is quickly went belly up), they asked why I was leaving. And I told them and pointed out I was quitting there to go live in a third world country so that I could enjoy my life again.

 

[leebee]

Not sure I think this is such a hot idea. What if you need the prior position as a reference for a job down the road?

 

[tvguy]

Not sure I think this is such a hot idea. What if you need the prior position as a reference for a job down the road?

Any employer these days who does more than confirm that a former employee worked for them, for how long, and confirm the salary is looking for a lawsuit. And our corporate policy is that they can only answer yes or no to those three questions, so the caller has to have the information from the past employee. Our managers hang up if any other questions are asked.

 

[hereyago]

Notsure I think this is such a hot idea. What if you need the prior position as a reference for a job down the road?

These people were there for 1 day, oddly enough, the powers that be wants them both to come back and be supervisors, lol.

Yes, that would not go over well, most of the employees come from snitches get stiches and rats get bats kind of world.

 

[Missy1961]

Not sure I think this is such a hot idea. What if you need the prior position as a reference for a job down the road?

They were there 1 day. I kind of doubt they will be putting it on their resumes.

 

[wenrob]

I think things like that should happen... The environment in a lot of workplaces today is that you should just be thankful you have a job. So be quiet and deal with whatever garbage is thrown at you. Employers need to remember that having employees that are treated well and respected are more likely to be happy and perform better.

Yep, this. I'd say wake up call. Right now my DD occasionally works with a baker who is essentially a bully and uses his being a member of the Union for years and years as a threat. There's a guy that works for the same company as DH who does the same thing. While they don't work at the same plant if this guy complains all other plants are affected. The higher ups just give into these guys rather than deal with potential blowback even though they don't ever have a real case. If someone had taken them in hand from the beginning the issues wouldn't exist. Now you have the nuts running the nuthouse and there's not a whole lot the regular common Joe can do about it.

 

[CPanther95]

I would give very little weight to anything written by an employee who quit after a single day.

 

[Luv Bunnies]

How did they even know anything concrete about the department after one day? Perhaps it was just a bad day and not representative of what usually goes on. Did they know each other before accepting the jobs and decide in advance that they were going to do this? It seems odd that two people would be disgruntled enough after one day to quit their jobs and write a ranting letter. I wouldn't listen to a word they said. It seems awfully presumptuous to think anyone would care what they thought after they worked there for one day. If they didn't like it, they were welcome to quit and not come back. If the manager asked them why they were quitting, they were welcome to state their opinions. But to write things that may or may not be true in an unsolicited letter? I would say good riddance to them!

 

[wilkeliza]

They were there for 1 day. Most places have a probationary period. I think this would mean more if it came from a longer term employee or even someone who made it through most of their probationary period.

 

[hereyago]

They are a couple.

Some things had merit, but they left out parts of things or twisted stuff.

 

[disneychrista]

Any employer these days who does more than confirm that a former employee worked for them, for how long, and confirm the salary is looking for a lawsuit. And our corporate policy is that they can only answer yes or no to those three questions, so the caller has to have the information from the past employee. Our managers hang up if any other questions are asked.

While I am not disagreeing with you, legally an employer can say anything that is truthful when giving a reference. They can say Jim had 10 attendance occurrences in the past 90 days of employment. They can not however say, I think Jim is an alcoholic he called in 10 times in the past 90 days.

 

[wilkeliza]

Any employer these days who does more than confirm that a former employee worked for them, for how long, and confirm the salary is looking for a lawsuit. And our corporate policy is that they can only answer yes or no to those three questions, so the caller has to have the information from the past employee. Our managers hang up if any other questions are asked.

Legally an employeer can say anything that is truthful. This was just discussed with a employment lawyer in NYC as someone who just got fired by one person I know applied to work for another person I know. They discussed the reasons why the person in question was let go. It did not violate any laws and they have the HR files to back up that the ex-employee acknowledged their issues through written warnings.

 

[morgan98]

There has got to be more to this story. It just sounds odd. So a couple was hired to start on the same day and they both resigned at the end of day 1 and wrote a letter?

Everywhere I have worked (large accounting firms),on your first day you are with HR doing some onboarding things, meeting co-workers over a lunch, being shown your desk. I really do not even think you would have time or exposure to enough things to write a three page letter. This does not seem realistic to me at all. I cannot believe the letter would have any merit unless there was more to the story.

 

[NHdisneylover]

A few days ago, there.were 2 brand new employees for my department.
They stayed for the day and were working.hard. At the end of the day, they composed a 3 page letter with copies of why they would not be returning adding names including my boss on naughty list and examples of poor attitudes and behavior.
Some think they snitched and others think stuff needed to be
opened up.


The only time I have done anything was after being interviewed by a manager, I turned.down the job because.he gave off a vibe that either he was on something or needed to be on something.

Have you had any similar experience?

I agree that there must be a lot of the story missing here.

First, yeah, it feels odd that a couple were hired together and started together and were working together enough during that day to communicate on all their grievances which added up to a three pare letter with names--AND had time to work together to write it before leaving.

The only scenario I can come up with is that possibly they were brought in as outside consultants, who run a business together and after one day of observing decided that the company is too far off from where the need to be for the consultants to feel that their services will be valuable. I suppose then, a professionally written letter to upper management or HR explaining that the following things which were observed would need to be addressed and corrected before the company could benefit from their training/consulting might be in order--again, if handled correctly, maybe. It doesn't sound like this is the case or how it went down based o your description though (unless you are getting everything third of fourth hand, etc)

 

[Goddesstree]

Any employer these days who does more than confirm that a former employee worked for them, for how long, and confirm the salary is looking for a lawsuit. And our corporate policy is that they can only answer yes or no to those three questions, so the caller has to have the information from the past employee. Our managers hang up if any other questions are asked.

Your managers are spineless toads

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Any employer these days who does more than confirm that a former employee worked for them, for how long, and confirm the salary is looking for a lawsuit. And our corporate policy is that they can only answer yes or no to those three questions, so the caller has to have the information from the past employee. Our managers hang up if any other questions are asked.

Most places won't discuss salary, either.

 

[jrmasm]

Sounds like something a 20 something snowball might do.