Smart family isnt right

[phamton]

I just don't understand why some see it as suspicious that Elizabeth lied about who she was to the police, or why she didn't try to get away, or why she was concerned about her abducters. Even if she did all those things it doesn't make her guilty of anything.

Why wouldn't she have started to empathize with her kidnappers? "Emmanuel" claimed to be a prophet or maybe even more than a prophet. Think of the adults that have believed in men such as he was.

How many followers did Jim Jones or David Koresh have? Very few of their followers were forced into joining their religion and I doubt if any were kidnapped. I would be more surprised if Elizabeth wasn't "converted." She didn't have the maturity or life experiences to see that he was deranged. What excuse do those "adults" (age 18-24) who willingly joined the "Heaven's Gate" cult have? Here's a little reminder for those who have forgotten: Applewhite and 38 followers committed suicide at a house in Rancho Santa Fe, California, last week, seeking redemption in a space ship they believed was following the Hale-Bopp comet. http://www.cnn.com/US/9703/26/mass.suicide.too/index.html

Bev

 

[ennazus]

why would the first day back, she go to get her hair done? I know this kindof a dumb thing to notice, but I don't think I want to go sit in a salon - where people tend to make small talk, etc - after such an ordeal.

After hanging out in the streets & rather homeless for 9 months I think a hair cut is quite appropriate!

I don't know what kind of salon either you or Elizabeth go to but I know that at my salon no one would be gossiping about ME or my child right in front of us!!

oops I just read that a family friend came to the house... thanks.

I think everything can be picked apart if people try hard enough.

 

[kdibattista]

Why do you all feel the need to defend yourselves and tell us how wrong we are. Are we not entitled to what we believe? It really kills me that when you post a dissenting opinion you get jumped all over and told that people can't sleep (?????). Hello it's my opinion, not yours.

I'm sorry, I guess I missunderstood the rules... I didn't know we are only allowed to respond to threads we agree with. I must have missed that.

 

[goofygirl]

As for the pregnancy rumour...I have never heard any so repugnant in my life. Talk about a blame the victim mentality.

First of all why is this idea so "awfully shocking" to some people here? Is is really so surprising to you that a upper class young teen can get pregnant and that her devoutly religious family would want to keep that a secret? I don't think its so strange.

Why is the idea that she was pregnant "blaming the victim"? Nobody said she WANTED to be pregnant. She could have been molested or raped and got pregnant, either way its not her fault. Even if she wanted to have sex with an adult and get pregnant, its still not her fault, but the fault of the ADULT having relations with her.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Originally posted by goofygirl
First of all why is this idea so "awfully shocking" to some people here? Is is really so surprising to you that a upper class young teen can get pregnant and that her devoutly religious family would want to keep that a secret? I don't think its so strange.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[DixieDreamer]

It's not the idea that she might have been pregnant. It is the sheer SPECULATION aspect that upsets me. No evidence, nothing to base the discussion on... and yet we talk of reasons that are negative and unkind for "perceptions" of "things not being right".

It bothers me - because it is unkind.

 

[zurgswife]

I agree dixiedreamer....it's not that it couldn't have happened but what are we basing our comments on.....The fact that it could have happened....Why should be gossip about someone we don't know, events we have no idea about.....????

Leave the poor girl and her family alone....

 

[disneyjunkie]

Originally posted by zurgswife
I agree dixiedreamer....it's not that it couldn't have happened but what are we basing our comments on.....The fact that it could have happened....Why should be gossip about someone we don't know, events we have no idea about.....????

Leave the poor girl and her family alone....

I understand your point, but it's hard to leave the family alone when they keep going on national tv.

Maybe it's time for them to say no more interviews.

 

[Liz]

I haven't been actively looking, but I haven't heard or seen the Smart family on anything since Friday night.

I was thinking the best thing for them will be when we end up at war with Iraq and everyone's attention will be focused elsewhere and off of them.

 

[Buckalew]

The saddest part of this thread for me is that if she had been found dead I doubt people would be saying these things about her.

 

[goofygirl]

It's not the idea that she might have been pregnant. It is the sheer SPECULATION aspect that upsets me. No evidence, nothing to base the discussion on... and yet we talk of reasons that are negative and unkind for "perceptions" of "things not being right".

I'll tell you why there's speculation.

The reason is that we have seen people lie in the past (Susan Smith, etc) . We are cynical and not so quick to believe everything we are told, or everything we see. This world is enough to make anyone suspicious of anyone. Its not meant to be"unkind", its just meant to be cautious of any information given to us. I think its wise to question things. There's not much that you can just take at face value anymore.

 

[DixieDreamer]

Originally posted by goofygirl
I'll tell you why there's speculation.

The reason is that we have seen people lie in the past (Susan Smith, etc) . We are cynical and not so quick to believe everything we are told, or everything we see. This world is enough to make anyone suspicious of anyone. Its not meant to be"unkind", its just meant to be cautious of any information given to us. I think its wise to question things. There's not much that you can just take at face value anymore.

At this point... no one has been "telling" you anything. You (like everyone else) have been watching news images and sound bites from "experts" and bit and clips of the family. Why do you need to be "cautious" about this? Certainly use your judgement when listening to news reports... but honestly does this affect you in anyway that if there is more to it - that you NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT?

 

[goofygirl]

Certainly use your judgement when listening to news reports... but honestly does this affect you in anyway that if there is more to it - that you NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT?

As far as I'm concerned, if something's put all over the TV- then its my business! They MADE IT my business.

If its none of my business, then it shoudnt be on tv, or anywhere else public.

 

[DixieDreamer]

Originally posted by goofygirl
As far as I'm concerned, if something's put all over the TV- then its my business! They MADE IT my business.

If its none of my business, then it shoudnt be on tv, or anywhere else public.

I seriously doubt this family had much to say about what was made "public" via news coverage.

 

[aahmom1]

One comment, as for the 'maybe she was pregnant' CRAP, just because you hear nasty, rotten gossip doesn't mean you have to spread it GG.

Why don't you just say 'Maybe she was captured by aliens', that has the same amount of truth. By repeating it, you become part of the problem, whether you choose to believe it or not.

 

[disykat]

The part of the rumor I found repugnant was the idea that her family would have her kidnapped to avoid discovery of a pregnancy. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Every interview I've seen has talked about how she is settling in, not that everything is totally normal.

 

[aahmom1]

The part of the rumor I found repugnant was the idea that her family would have her kidnapped to avoid discovery of a pregnancy. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

I totally agree!! Completely not based on any facts, just thrown out there. Maybe if they keep throwing ludicrous ideas out, one will stick. That does NOT mean that every stupid thing that is thought, should be repeated!

 

[Minnie824]

Why don't you just say 'Maybe she was captured by aliens', that has the same amount of truth

How do you know that? Do you or does someone you know, personally know the Smart family? All thats being said is that it was heard and it IS a possibility....a lot more of a possibility than the alien theory (although if some of you believe that could have happened, that may get debated here as well). No one really knows what happened except for Elizabeth and whomever she chooses to tell...and from that, whatever may get leaked out....and even after that it may not be the truth....but everyone is entitle to their opionion that something is off and may or may not be the truth.

 

[WillyJ]

Well said Bridget and Disykat. . .


I would hope some people could take a step back and imagine how it would feel if she was your sister or cousin or friend, and how terribly difficult the situation is to deal with already without having to hear unsubstantiated rumors on top of it. . .

Whatever actually happened, I'm sure every little gory detail will come out eventually. . . and I'm sure they are horrible enough without anyone having to make worse things up with no proof and have others repeat them. . .

That kid is a victim no matter what happened; and it's a shame what's already known to of happened to her isn't horrible enough for some people. .

 

[aahmom1]

How do you know that? Do you or does someone you know, personally know the Smart family? All thats being said is that it was heard and it IS a possibility....a lot more of a possibility than the alien theory (although if some of you believe that could have happened, that may get debated here as well). No one really knows what happened except for Elizabeth and whomever she chooses to tell...and from that, whatever may get leaked out....and even after that it may not be the truth....but everyone is entitle to their opionion that something is off and may or may not be the truth.

How do I KNOW her family didn't send her off/let her be taken by a couple of total scumbags because she was pregnant? How about the fact that they have been looking for her for 9 long months, crying, praying that she come home safely. PLEASE!!! Let me repeat, just because you HEAR a nasty rumor, doesn't mean you have to perpetuate the problem by repeating it. Please, think of this young girl, have some heart.

It's clear that some would like to believe that OBVIOUSLY this family did something to this poor child, but I'm not one of them. If it makes you feel better to spread vicious rumors, have at it.