Sister Wives

[lisaviolet]

Flagstaff numbers:

Coyote Pass land purchased for $820,000 in June 2018

Robyn's Flagstaff house purchased for $890,000 in Aug 2019
4,395 sq ft on 2 acres.

Christine's Flagstaff house purchased for $520,000 in Sept 2018
3bd/3ba on 2 acres

Janelle's Flagstaff rental - $2,850 per month
3bd/2.5 ba 2,786 sq ft

Meri's Flagstaff rental - $4,500 per month
4,200 sq ft on 1 acre

Holy ****.

 

[lisaviolet]

Aspen had it all figured out two seasons ago -

She told Christine that they are never settled. Always some move, something else, some change, some talk. And that it probably won't end.

And she didn't want that for her life.

 

[happily single]

If she has a home business, she could claim a significant amount as a business deduction. Not saying it isn't a boat load of money, but she could have a way to recoup some of it.

Didn’t the legging business she sold for (forget their name) go out of business?

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

Didn’t the legging business she sold for (forget their name) go out of business?

Lularoe and basically, yes

 

[barkley]

Does anybody here with an LDS or FLDS background know how one of these "celestial marriages" gets dissolved or if there even is a way? How do polygamists break up, if they ever actually do?

as others have said, the browns are not lds so their practices are different but my understanding is that the core beliefs in the afterlife and how the decisions one makes in marriage (staying married vs. 'divorcing') are very similar. below is an explanation from the lds website on the issue (NOTE-i've known traditional lds women and for them the decision they make on this issue is primarily impacted by what will happen to their children-not themselves because they know that it is almost impossible to get a cancellation of sealing for a woman-and while men can go on and be subsequently sealed to any number of women through remarriage-women absent cancellation are 'eternally bound' to that first husband and no other):


“What happens when a couple gets a temple divorce? What happens to the children in the next life?”
Answer/Elder James A. Cullimore
As to the first question, “What happens when a couple gets a temple divorce?” we should understand that there is no such thing as a temple divorce. What we refer to as a temple divorce is in fact a cancellation of a temple sealing. When a couple is married in the temple, they not only satisfy the law of the land as to a legal civil marriage, but they are also sealed for time and all eternity in an eternal relationship.
A civil divorce nullifies the marriage so far as the civil law is concerned, but only by a mandate of the president of the Church can the sealing of the couple be cancelled. A cancellation of the sealing is what we are really referring to when we talk about a temple divorce.
When one has been granted a civil divorce after his temple sealing, he must be cleared by the First Presidency before he can be granted a temple recommend by his bishop. After a divorce clearance has been granted by the First Presidency, an application for a cancellation of the temple sealing might be made to the president of the Church. Normally it is the woman who seeks a cancellation of sealing. Since a woman cannot be sealed to two men at the same time, she must have a cancellation of sealing from one before she can be sealed to another.
As to the next question, “What happens to the children in the next life when there has been a cancellation of sealing of the parents?” it is understood that in the case of a cancellation of the sealing of the woman to the man, this does not cancel the sealing of the children to the parents, since they were born in the covenant, which is a birthright blessing. They remain in the status of the sealing to their parents and can never be sealed to anyone else. The decision as to with whom they will go will be determined by the Lord in the hereafter.
Regarding being born in the covenant the General Handbook of Instructions states, “Children born in the covenant cannot be sealed to anyone, but belong to their natural parents. This rule is not altered by adoption, consent of the natural parents, request of the child after becoming of age or death of the natural parents.” (P. 101.)
It should be kept in mind that to be born in the covenant is a birthright blessing, and that if a child remains worthy in this life of celestial blessings, regardless of the actions of his parents, he is assured of that birthright and is guaranteed eternal parentage. One’s worthiness in this life through living the gospel and keeping the commandments, in this as in all things, is the key to eternal life.

 

[Allison Joy]

Well, they finally hit the beginning of COVID on the show. Nothing specific about the show, really, but hearing everyone talk about the beginning of all this is a bit surreal.

 

[ronandannette]

as others have said, the browns are not lds so their practices are different but my understanding is that the core beliefs in the afterlife and how the decisions one makes in marriage (staying married vs. 'divorcing') are very similar. below is an explanation from the lds website on the issue (NOTE-i've known traditional lds women and for them the decision they make on this issue is primarily impacted by what will happen to their children-not themselves because they know that it is almost impossible to get a cancellation of sealing for a woman-and while men can go on and be subsequently sealed to any number of women through remarriage-women absent cancellation are 'eternally bound' to that first husband and no other):
...““What happens to the children in the next life when there has been a cancellation of sealing of the parents?” it is understood that in the case of a cancellation of the sealing of the woman to the man, this does not cancel the sealing of the children to the parents, since they were born in the covenant, which is a birthright blessing. They remain in the status of the sealing to their parents and can never be sealed to anyone else. The decision as to with whom they will go will be determined by the Lord in the hereafter.
Regarding being born in the covenant the General Handbook of Instructions states, “Children born in the covenant cannot be sealed to anyone, but belong to their natural parents. This rule is not altered by adoption, consent of the natural parents, request of the child after becoming of age or death of the natural parents.” (P. 101.)
It should be kept in mind that to be born in the covenant is a birthright blessing, and that if a child remains worthy in this life of celestial blessings, regardless of the actions of his parents, he is assured of that birthright and is guaranteed eternal parentage. One’s worthiness in this life through living the gospel and keeping the commandments, in this as in all things, is the key to eternal life.

I'm confused. What supposedly happens to these "children" when as adults, they get married themselves? Aren't they then sealed to whomever they marry and then with them (and maybe their own children) for eternity? I'm not getting the afterlife-construct at all. Do people exist on more than one planet/plane-of-consciousness at a time?

 

[cats mom]

I'm confused. What supposedly happens to these "children" when as adults, they get married themselves? Aren't they then sealed to whomever they marry and then with them (and maybe their own children) for eternity? I'm not getting the afterlife-construct at all. Do people exist on more than one planet/plane-of-consciousness at a time?

Maybe it's a lot like the Sister Wives current dilemma... one house vs Vegas cul-de-sac vs Flagstaff barely a family set up?

If everyone in a family is sealed together maybe they all spend eternity in a big house with multiple wings for individual couples or on a giant family cul-de-sac. I'm guessing the current Flagstaff situation would not be the goal. LOL

It does get complicated if you try to think through logistics, but I believe the point is more that being sealed and remaining faithful means those connections continue into eternity... whatever that ends up looking like.

 

[CdnCarrie]

I think we had discussed Janelle’s blemish,
https://www.prevention.com/health/health-conditions/amp35797604/janelle-brown-skin-cancer/

 

[cvjw]

I just have to say that the dog that Meri is holding is everything! Just lying like a baby in her arms and letting her pet it!

 

[antmaril]

Last night’s episode was boring.

 

[ronandannette]

Last night’s episode was boring.

I didn’t think so. I’m with @Allison Joy - seeing them grapple with Covid and what was to come brings back memories and I’d imagine most of us felt like they did at first. Finally something about them I can really relate to!

I hope the rest of the season does deal heavily with their issues of pandemic response and their experiences with it. To date there have been almost a million Covid cases in Arizona and over 16,000 deaths. In a family that large I’d be very surprised if none of them contracted it.

 

[Claudia1]

The toilet paper tutorial was sooooo dramatic!

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

The toilet paper tutorial was sooooo dramatic!

As is everything with Kody lol

 

[antmaril]

I didn’t think so. I’m with @Allison Joy - seeing them grapple with Covid and what was to come brings back memories and I’d imagine most of us felt like they did at first. Finally something about them I can really relate to!

I hope the rest of the season does deal heavily with their issues of pandemic response and their experiences with it. To date there have been almost a million Covid cases in Arizona and over 16,000 deaths. In a family that large I’d be very surprised if none of them contracted it.

Boring might not be the right word. Maybe “tiresome” better describes it. I am tired of hearing Kody complain about almost everything. And, he always thinks he right. That gets old. Seeing how they handle the Pandemic going forward should be interesting. Not easy with a family that size.

 

[kelpricer]

I just finished last night’s episode. It breaks my heart watching his total disgust for Meri. She kept looking at him for comfort during the phone call with their daughter and he just couldn’t care less. Every time he even refers to Meri is with disrespect and disgust. I really wish she would just leave, he will never love her the way she’s hoping for

 

[mom2rtk]

You know, I'm really over the Covid stuff on the shows I watch. But for some reason I found it very interesting here. Probably because of the unique issues it presented for their polygamist family.

Kody giving TP usage instructions seemed perfect. Just the type of micromanagement he wishes he could get them to buy into more often.

The fact that he thinks 4 separate families, complete with young adult kids, should all shut down indefinitely so he could safely hop between homes was just wild.

Someone (Robyn?) said if they were in the single home this all would have been worked out. But I doubt it would have gone well.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Super boring episode. Just them yakking about where Kody where live/and or visit.

Only interesting tidbit is that Garrison and Gabriel are still living at home. I thought Gabriel was at college and Garrison in the military.

 

[prairie_girl]

The toilet paper tutorial was sooooo dramatic!

I was with the kid who was gagging lol

Did he really say you should be able to get three swipes out of 5 squares?!? I’ve never in my life even heard of folding it to get more than one swipe at a time

It was interesting to see Kody saying Janelle was overreacting but was totally on board with Mariah and Audrey leaving Chicago asap.

Christine reminds me of a golden retriever..she doesn’t have much to contribute, and everyone just gives her a pat on the head once in a while. Saying that, she is my favourite wife. It was so on brand for her camera to be sideways during their FaceTime lol

 

[Alicefan]

I'm confused. What supposedly happens to these "children" when as adults, they get married themselves? Aren't they then sealed to whomever they marry and then with them (and maybe their own children) for eternity? I'm not getting the afterlife-construct at all. Do people exist on more than one planet/plane-of-consciousness at a time?

it's a hot mess huh? lol Can you imagine having to not only worry about what happens to you in this life, but you've got to also work on your eternal "set up" and who you'll be stuck with in the next!