Since when did being a jerk become a theme park strategy?

[ArwenMarie]

This is something that I noticed was significantly different in DL. People literally calmly filed in and out of places...it felt bizarre.

DisneyLand is mostly locals who have gone many times and will be back many times. Disney World is full of non-locals who will only go a few times in their life. That's probably why there's this difference.

That's really interesting but makes total sense. If you are going to be back soon, there is no need to act all rushed and flustered and sometimes rude.

 

[CookieandOatmeal]

I'm having trouble visualizing your experience. Can you please go into more detail about those boobs? Just how giant were they?/QUOTE]


She was a skinny lady so your eyes were naturally drawn to them. With them pressed to my back, they felt like Pamela Anderson big!!

 

[alicat8]

That's really interesting but makes total sense. If you are going to be back soon, there is no need to act all rushed and flustered and sometimes rude.

Yeah I figured that was what made the difference, but it still felt so weird to me. And nice! It was hard to tell my first timer friend that he couldn't expect that in FL.

 

[fly girl]

This is something that I noticed was significantly different in DL. People literally calmly filed in and out of places...it felt bizarre.

Unfortunately, I didn't have the same occurrence. I was toppled by a stroller because the woman had to run to get on RSR. The CM's tried hard to stop people from running, but some don't listen. After all her efforts, she ended up 1 family in front of mine. Unreal.

I see an appalling example set by many parents today of the 35-45 age crowd. So many were raised by parents who told them they were so super special and no one should be telling them what to do that they bought into their own press. They need to learn that you don't always get to be, or have to be first. It's not a contest and there is no prize at the end, not even a trophy or a certificate.

Seriously? I'm 41 and I'm telling you I was raised in a time where not everyone got on the team or an award for just showing up. You won or you lost -- nothing was a tie or for fun. My fellow Gen X'ers weren't raised that we were "super special." We got kicked outside to play until the streetlights came on. I don't know how you randomly pulled that age bracket but I don't agree.

 

[GaryDis]

Try taking a NYC subway at rush hour!

Maybe it's changed since the summer I worked on Wall Street. But New Yorkers are highly skilled at rush hour, able to weave in and out of crowds, running full blast without knocking over a single person. I could have been a running back, if I didn't have the height and physique of Danny DeVito.

 

[wuzzy6]

Isn't it just tragic when someone's foot accidentally loses control of itself and winds up flying out in front of a tunnel-visioned sprinter, who happened to miss the fact that s/he toppled an octogenarian, flattened a toddler, and trampled the Disney Bunny? It's such a sad thing when that happens. So sad.

(Seriously, though, I've never tripped anyone who was literally running over/into people... but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted.)

 

[Brocktoon]

The silver lining is that there is still a decent percentage of folks who respect the idea of patience and courtesy. In some of the more crowded areas or times of day I have had some great conversations with like minded folks while sharing a park bench away from the mayhem.

I've come close to my boiling point a few times and that's when I step back, find an adult beverage (if not in MK) and a place to chill. Typically I find many others doing the same.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Maybe it's changed since the summer I worked on Wall Street. But New Yorkers are highly skilled at rush hour, able to weave in and out of crowds, running full blast without knocking over a single person. I could have been a running back, if I didn't have the height and physique of Danny DeVito.

Yeah, New Yorkers/commuters are really good at navigating the crowded sidewalks and subways and all that. Now around Times Square where the tourists hang out? Not so much

I've come close to my boiling point a few times and that's when I step back, find an adult beverage (if not in MK) and a place to chill. Typically I find many others doing the same.

I've had that realization myself. Sometimes when I find myself becoming stressed it's time for me to put myself in time out.

(this isn't about the OP or what happened with her son which is just terrible)

 

[RookieLady]

Unfortunately, I didn't have the same occurrence. I was toppled by a stroller because the woman had to run to get on RSR. The CM's tried hard to stop people from running, but some don't listen. After all her efforts, she ended up 1 family in front of mine. Unreal.





Seriously? I'm 41 and I'm telling you I was raised in a time where not everyone got on the team or an award for just showing up. You won or you lost -- nothing was a tie or for fun. My fellow Gen X'ers weren't raised that we were "super special." We got kicked outside to play until the streetlights came on. I don't know how you randomly pulled that age bracket but I don't agree.

Yes. I am 43. I think this is applicable to a younger generation. I must have heard a million times growing up, "life's not fair," now go do . . .

 

[3DisneyFanz]

Isn't it just tragic when someone's foot accidentally loses control of itself and winds up flying out in front of a tunnel-visioned sprinter, who happened to miss the fact that s/he toppled an octogenarian, flattened a toddler, and trampled the Disney Bunny? It's such a sad thing when that happens. So sad.

(Seriously, though, I've never tripped anyone who was literally running over/into people... but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted.)

Im a pretty decent sized guy and I'm about a foot taller than my wife who hates the crowds because she can't see over or through the masses. Between her and our son in the stroller I spend quite a bit of time looking out for obstacles including the sprinters who aren't looking where they are going. I have on occasion had to slide in front of the stroller to prevent impact and had the sprinter bounce off me and have really enjoyed the laughter of people around me that the schmuck was pushing out of the way on their run.

 

[MasterGracey84]

This is something that I noticed was significantly different in DL. People literally calmly filed in and out of places...it felt bizarre.

This comment reminded me of one of Jim Hill's opinions about Disneyland v. WDW. With all due respect, DL is the world's greatest "local/regional theme park". People can head over for the day or a few days and enjoy their time in a leisurely fashion. If folks miss out on something, then they simply note they can return some other time. WDW on the other hand (for many) is a complex, well planned vacation that may be once-in-a-lifetime... and by gosh people will have the "get all I can" mentality. I understand... bizzare indeed lol.

 

[EvieBug]

I see an appalling example set by many parents today of the 35-45 age crowd. So many were raised by parents who told them they were so super special and no one should be telling them what to do that they bought into their own press. They need to learn that you don't always get to be, or have to be first. It's not a contest and there is no prize at the end, not even a trophy or a certificate.

Wait, what? I'm 44, when I was a kid there was absolutely none of this "everyone gets a trophy" crap. I think you are off several years in your age group accusations, no one I know in my age bracket was raised that way.

The bad behaviour is everywhere, people are incredibly self-absorbed nowadays.

ETA: and some of us are trying to raise our kids with good manners and a solid understanding of what's right and what's wrong. So this is not so much a generational thing, in my opinion, as it is a general 'some people have really bad manners' thing.

 

[Fizban]

This is what you get when the parent generation said that everyone was a winner, everyone was entitled to everything everyone else had, no you cant punish my child at school, let the tv and video games raise the children, etc...
Manners are quickly becoming like the Unicorn (a mythical thing).

 

[EvieBug]

Yes. I am 43. I think this is applicable to a younger generation. I must have heard a million times growing up, "life's not fair," now go do . . .

Holy crap, if I had a dollar for everytime I heard "life isnt fair" or "because I said so" growing up I could afford DVC. Hahahaha.

 

[Magpie]

Yes. I am 43. I think this is applicable to a younger generation. I must have heard a million times growing up, "life's not fair," now go do . . .

And I'm 44. I grew up listening to people talk about how my generation were all self-involved, spoiled brats with no ambition. Not like the boomers, who actually had some drive and self-discipline. You bet everyone in my generation got a trophy! I have quite the collection of "participation" awards, thank you.

My take on all this? The world is not going to heck in a handbasket. People are no ruder than they used to be. In a lot of ways, thanks to social media, we're more connected and more aware of each other than ever before. And we police each other! The wrath of the mob now descends on people's heads for transgressions that never would have got any notice in the past.

A recent example: A middle aged businessman tears a strip off a cabbie, insulting his race and religion. The cabbie takes his video of the incident to the cops and gets brushed off. Eventually he puts it on YouTube, the media gets hold of it, and all heck breaks loose on the head of the businessman. Suddenly he's fired from his job and the cops, embarrassed, are now reopening the file and charging him with a hate crime.

I still tell my kids "suck it up, buttercup" and "life's not fair". The parents of my students today say the same thing. Their children will someday give their own kids the same message. And we'll all complain that this generation isn't as noble as the last.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

That's unfortunate people feel the need to act that way.

Not that this will help you now, but for fantasmic we prefer to stay seated until most of the crowd is gone. Walking out with all those people is never a good time.

 

[fly girl]

I could have been a running back, if I didn't have the height and physique of Danny DeVito.

I love this sentence. Just want to say thanks, you made my morning.

 

[Jarmo]

32 year old checking in. Sorry, I didn't have time to read any of your comments, I'm busy doing important stuff in my important life that is more important than yours, and also get out of my way.

 

[fly girl]

Yes. I am 43. I think this is applicable to a younger generation. I must have heard a million times growing up, "life's not fair," now go do . . .

Oh yes! Staple of my childhood.

Wait, what? I'm 44, when I was a kid there was absolutely none of this "everyone gets a trophy" crap. I think you are off several years in your age group accusations, no one I know in my age bracket was raised that way.

The bad behaviour is everywhere, people are incredibly self-absorbed nowadays.

ETA: and some of us are trying to raise our kids with good manners and a solid understanding of what's right and what's wrong. So this is not so much a generational thing, in my opinion, as it is a general 'some people have really bad manners' thing.

Way off in age group! Losing was a fact of life we learned, and it made us stronger.

Agree. It's not an age issue, it's a bad behavior issue.

Holy crap, if I had a dollar for everytime I heard "life isnt fair" or "because I said so" growing up I could afford DVC. Hahahaha.

 

[kj2mom]

I am soo sorry that happened to your son. I hope he is okay! We were actually pleasantly surprised during our trip last month. We had no stroller issues/no scooter issues/ no one tried to crowd us when we got our parade spots etc etc (I know how hard it is to maneuver scooters and strollers through crowds and wouldn't have blamed anyone if we bumped just saying we never did). Actually one night a family was extremely kind to my children when we were looking for a spot to watch the MSEP (we didn't stake out a spot because it was raining and we weren't sure if we wanted to see it but at almost the last minute we decided what the heck) and they moved over and invited them to stand with them (I thanked them profusely several times) then for the Frozen processional we were looking for a spot and a mom with her son scooted down the curb together in their shady spot and invited us to join them. I did think it was kind of funny when Fantasmic! was over and my children made no motion at all to get up. I guess by that day (3rd day of our trip) they figured out I am not about getting into the middle of the rush. We waited a couple of minutes for the crowd to head out before we got up.