Simpler times.

But we aren't just talking about homicide rates. We are also talking about helmets and carseats and a general idea of safety. These things HAVE changed. Also, childhood sexual abuse cases have quadruped since 1950. Much of that has to do with things going unreported back in the 50s-70s, but I also believe that with the internet and availability, people's sick proclivities are easier to feed. Other than sexual, childhood abuse has risen over 100% since 1980. Just look up statistics, they are out there. I am not advocating "helicopter parenting" but I don't think children should have free reign out on the streets of a large city for hours either. Dawn
i totally agree with the underreporting, that liklely very true, with rape as well, but it still stands that it is NOT happening more today than in the past, its just being reported more.....
The truth is IMO that 30% of the population is very unstable mentally. I work with them daily. They were unstable in the 50's and they are unstable now....
Kids can ride all over town now and most of them will not be molested or killed. We are just to afraid to take that chance..... (After all look what at stake!)

Ignorance WAS bliss
 
i totally agree with the underreporting, that liklely very true, with rape as well, but it still stands that it is NOT happening more today than in the past, its just being reported more.....
The truth is IMO that 30% of the population is very unstable mentally. I work with them daily. They were unstable in the 50's and they are unstable now....
Kids can ride all over town now and most of them will not be molested or killed. We are just to afraid to take that chance..... (After all look what at stake!)

Ignorance WAS bliss

Exactly
 
I grew up in suburb of NYC, less than 10 miles from the City Line. It was very social and everybody came out for parades, block parties, and other things. So, I don't get the Southern Thing. As for the safety issue, cars are safer now which adds some to the statistics too. We had seatbelts and you used them once, when you took your drivers test thats it.

I believe the post is towards simpler times not safety issues. Less Structure and more geared towards making your own fun. The Deviants were out there, but if something happened these people were not protected they were dealt with quickly and sometimes never heard from again.
 

I grew up in suburb of NYC, less than 10 miles from the City Line. It was very social and everybody came out for parades, block parties, and other things. So, I don't get the Southern Thing. As for the safety issue, cars are safer now which adds some to the statistics too. We had seatbelts and you used them once, when you took your drivers test thats it. I believe the post is towards simpler times not safety issues. Less Structure and more geared towards making your own fun. The Deviants were out there, but if something happened these people were not protected they were dealt with quickly and sometimes never heard from again.
I grew up very close to NYC and now live in the heart of the south...

People are the same everywhere, although i think the south has been a bit slower to see the reality of the world today. Southern communities are still a bit isolated from the world in some places ( which is good and bad).

I think 9/11 was the wake up call for America, that the world is a violent place , always has been , always will be, and thanks to mass media you will never be able to ignore it again...

We should focus our energy on the positive things that have been created over the past 30 years and the shackles that have been removed from the oppressed everywhere. We still habe a long way to go!
 
In the '70s, I lived in a rural neighborhood a couple miles outside a small town. Us kids would ride our bicycles and dirt bikes all over with our rifles and shotguns slung over our shoulders. Guns our parents gave us.

When I went off to college 90 miles away I would hitch hike home for weekends. Sunday afternoon my Dad would drive me out to the highway so I could hitch back.

What did you do back in the day that people wouldn't dream of doing now?

I grew up in the 70's to. We rode bikes all over but didn't have guns :confused3. I can't even imagine a parent thinking that would be a good idea. The hitchhiking thing is also crazy. I hope your dad counts his lucky stars that nothing happened to you.
 
Do you remember the days when a bully picked on you and you told your dad? He would tell you to kick the kids butt. Now the parents call the police and file a lawsuit.
 
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Do you remember the days when a bully picked on you and you told your dad? He would tell you to kick the kids butt. Now the parents call the police and file a lawsuit.

I still teach my kids to handle problems like that themselves. They will never learn to solve "people problems" if the only thing they know how to do is tell an adult and let them handle it.
 
Do you remember the days when a bully picked on you and you told your dad? He would tell you to kick the kids butt. Now the parents call the police and file a lawsuit.

I remember the days when schools, parents and society turned a blind eye to bullying and figured it was just part of growing up. I am so glad that things have changed in that regard and we understand that nobody should be terrorized that way.
 
Robin: so true, the south is way more hospitable and welcoming then us uptight Yankees. I grew up in Bensonhurst in a tight knit community probably not far from you?

I was born in Brownsville then we moved to Crown Heights in 63. Lived there 31 years. No WAY would my nerdy kid survive there!:scared1:

As long as you outwardly conform to the cultural norms, the south can be hospitable.

It took me a while to conform but once I did I did okay. I live in Atlanta and MOST people here aren't even from the South. I can't say I have a good idea of what the real South is like. All of my coworkers and friends are Northerners.

Do you remember the days when a bully picked on you and you told your dad? He would tell you to kick the kids butt. Now the parents call the police and file a lawsuit.

I still teach my kids to handle problems like that themselves. They will never learn to solve "people problems" if the only thing they know how to do is tell an adult and let them handle it.

I still believe in the old fashioned "handle it yourself" way of dealing with fools. Always have, always will. I was not raised to trust the police or the justice system.
 
I grew up in the 70's to. We rode bikes all over but didn't have guns :confused3. I can't even imagine a parent thinking that would be a good idea. The hitchhiking thing is also crazy. I hope your dad counts his lucky stars that nothing happened to you.

I never even knew a person who owned a gun till I moved South...blew my MIND! :headache:
 
I grew up in the 70's to. We rode bikes all over but didn't have guns :confused3. I can't even imagine a parent thinking that would be a good idea. The hitchhiking thing is also crazy. I hope your dad counts his lucky stars that nothing happened to you.

I know...there was a girl here in FL who was hitchhiking and disappeared. This was in '72 '74. I know about her because her parents never gave up the search, and they'd be on the news every few years, until they died :sad1:

I'm sure there were many more like her...
 
Besides my children not riding bikes everywhere, mostly because of where we live, I find everything about 2014 better than 1984 (I was born in '76).

EVERYTHING.
 
I never even knew a person who owned a gun till I moved South...blew my MIND! :headache:

Here, it would be like not owning a shovel or a rake - definitely a necessary tool of rural life :)
 
I grew up in the 70's to. We rode bikes all over but didn't have guns :confused3. I can't even imagine a parent thinking that would be a good idea. The hitchhiking thing is also crazy. I hope your dad counts his lucky stars that nothing happened to you.

The gun is what was a Southern thing; I'm assuming that the OP is male. In many parts of the South, including where I grew up, a .22 rifle is a rite-of-passage gift for a boy's 12th birthday. I didn't know any girl who got her own; we had to beg to be allowed to use our brothers' or Dads' guns if we wanted to hunt. (And men/boys didn't want us with them because having a girl around meant that they couldn't relieve themselves in the woods or swear as much as they wanted to.)

Starting in the mid-1960's it was no longer considered safe for women to hitch, but guys frequently did it until well into the 1970's. It was still considered safe to for them if they only got into the back of a pickup and not the cab, or rode with a trucker who wanted someone to talk to.

To me, the greatest change is in how we define safety. In that era, when our parents assumed we were "safe" -- what they meant was "safe from malice". "Safe from accidental injury" wasn't so much of a concern; the idea was that we would learn from experience not to take risks that we could not handle. People accepted that kids would get hurt sometimes, and that once in a blue moon they might even suffer a serious or even fatal injury, but that was considered a reasonable risk. Previous generations tended to give kids a lot more credit for instinct than parents seem to do today. My DS has been spending afternoons alone after school for 4 years now, and yes, occasionally he has hurt himself; but he knows to who to call and what to do if there is an accident, so I don't obsess about his safety.

Some of us came from cultures outside of the US, where events akin to 9/11 were always a horror, but not so unthinkable. What we accepted a long time ago is that you really can never effectively protect yourself against that kind of random spectacular violence if you are unlucky enough to be a victim of it, so there is no sense in worrying about it or trying to protect your family from it as a function of daily life. We learned to worry only about the probable, not the possible.

BTW, we had a local "dirty old man" when we lived out in the country. Girls knew that going near his place was a bad idea, and he knew that if he touched a local family's daughter and she told, he would get beaten to a pulp by her father or brothers. Local law enforcement knew about this; he got beaten every so often, and the sheriff was fully aware of that. If someone had shot him to death, the sheriff would have pretended not to know who did it.
 
I grew up in the 70's to. We rode bikes all over but didn't have guns :confused3. I can't even imagine a parent thinking that would be a good idea. The hitchhiking thing is also crazy. I hope your dad counts his lucky stars that nothing happened to you.

Hitch hiking was always frowned upon here. We all had guns by mid teens, but needed a reason to leave the house with them (say like target shooting , hunting season, or a pack of coyotes hanging around during calving season). The dirt bikes always proved to be 10X more deadly though :lmao:
 
The gun is what was a Southern thing; I'm assuming that the OP is male. In many parts of the South, including where I grew up, a .22 rifle is a rite-of-passage gift for a boy's 12th birthday. I didn't know any girl who got her own; we had to beg to be allowed to use our brothers' or Dads' guns if we wanted to hunt. (And men/boys didn't want us with them because having a girl around meant that they couldn't relieve themselves in the woods or swear as much as they wanted to).

Generally speaking, it's probably more a rural vs urban thing than Southern vs Northern. Relatives of ours in IL, MN, KS, and MI all had guns growing up just like me.
 
I grew up in the 70's to. We rode bikes all over but didn't have guns :confused3. I can't even imagine a parent thinking that would be a good idea. The hitchhiking thing is also crazy. I hope your dad counts his lucky stars that nothing happened to you.

I agree! What on earth goes thru a parents mind when they say "here's a gun, go and have a good time". :eek: Of course it varies depending on where youre from. This sort of thing isnt a big deal in the south. But further up north (canada for example), you'd get thrown in jail!! :rolleyes2
 





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