*sigh* things have changed so much around here

[In a hurry]

They are ridiculing the posters on this site. Not just the posts. About a couple weeks after the "incident", which I wasn't even aware of until then, I searched out this "other" forum. What I read on there was enough to just piss the heck out of me. I haven't been back there since and don't want to go back there.


While there are some posters that I have missed, I don't think the fourm has changed that much. I still either get ignored or attacked for the most part. what has changed is the VMK board since Disney shut down VMK.

Are they ridiculing people for being idiots? Rude, or whiners? You know, some people are. I've run across a few, even here. I've been treated very rudely, and it was absolutely ignored by the mods. If I'd had a chance to go somewhere other than here to complain bitterly, I would have. I guess that makes me bad in the eyes of some.

I get ignored all of the time, too. I see attacking and arguing/discussing as being different. I get into "discussions" fairly often. I've been attacked 2x's.

Why is there a VMK board if there isn't a VMK?

Not trying to be offensive at all. Just thinking about the ideas presented. It's weird when you just pop into and out of this place. I've a couple of boards (teachers, parenting) I visit where I would be offended to be banned for what is said somewhere else.

 

[Robinrs]

I have been staying out of these conversations but I can't anymore. I think a lot of the "hurt feelings" go back to all that "self esteem" junk that was popular a few years ago. Kids never got a chance to grow a thick skin. If anyone thinks that people don't talk behind their backs, they need a serious reality check. It happens at the beach, in a grocery store, at a theme park.

If there is a site out there that you don't like, then DON'T GO THERE! It really is that simple. If you don't want people to comment on certain aspects of your life then DON'T POST THEM. If you don't want honest opinions that may not agree with yours, the DON'T ASK.

There is so much finger pointing here lately, it reminds me of a saying my grandma used to say, "remember when you point your finger at someone else, you have 3 more pointing back at you."

What I find ironic is that when I read Carly Roach's posts about the other site, I wonder, "How does she know all this stuff and isn't it against the rules to read there?" How come she isn't banned? The problem seems to be inconsistancy.

I am going to crawl back in my hole now, but rest assured that I can take criticism and won't hit that little triangle button and expect someone a mod to come to my defense.

I use that 3 finger thing a lot myself!!!! Great post!

 

[In a hurry]

I use that 3 finger thing a lot myself!!!! Great post!

lOL, I had to reread what you were quoting to know what you were using that 3 finger for!

 

[disneyfav4ever]

But it's quite another thing when the person ridiculing you behind your back somewhere else is posing as a nice person on the DIS, where many people feel secure enough to talk openly with people who they think are friends.

I agree I was told many times that they were just giving me advice, (that I didn't ask for,) to try to "help," but then those same posters are the ones that post over there, talking trash all the time.

 

[Missy1961]

If, by "interesting", you mean "near-total d-bags", then we are in agreement. But we still don't see eye to eye about the DIS "suffering for it" part.

Sitting down to lunch, finally able to catch up on this thread....and this is one of the first posts I see. Is this considered a personal attack? Isn't that against the rules? And attacking people who can't defend themselves isn't very nice.

(I'm sorry if this has already been discussed. I don't know if I'll have time to get thru all the posts before my lunch time is over, so I wanted to comment on this one when I saw it)

 

[CathrynRose]

It really isn't "Blame the victim" It is about personal responsibilty. If you can't stand the heat, stay outta the kitchen.

pinnie

I can stand the heat. But explain to me why my child, or my husband - who do not post here, should have their looks heated up? Ive never posted anything negative about my husband - ever. I wouldnt have married a loser - but he's been called foul names, FOUL.

So because people are immature and get off on making fun of another human being, I should stay out of the kitchen. Please. People should grow up.

They are ridiculing the posters on this site. Not just the posts. About a couple weeks after the "incident", which I wasn't even aware of until then, I searched out this "other" forum. What I read on there was enough to just piss the heck out of me. I haven't been back there since and don't want to go back there.


While there are some posters that I have missed, I don't think the fourm has changed that much. I still either get ignored or attacked for the most part. what has changed is the VMK board since Disney shut down VMK.

OT - They shut down VMK? That sucks. I know so many people were so into it. Did they give an explanation??

I agree what when kids are brought into it, that crosses the line> BUT, why anyone would post their family pictures, their names and ages and dates of trips on a public internet board is beyond me. I teach a class in internet safety and that is the issue I discuss first. Just because you can post the pics and info, doesn't mean you should.

If you post benign issues than you shouldn't have to worry about them being twisted or contorted, right?

pinnie

Several of the pictures used to ridicule my husband and child - were not posted by myself, but rather stolen from a locked, password protected PhotoBucket account. (they deny this - they can deny until theyre blue in the face - they know the truth)

No - they can twist and contort anything they want. My bringing my THEN 9 y/o into a Bathroom with me - and a truck stop - turned into my 16 year old - who at the time I even POSTED it, wasnt yet 16.

Aside from the fact, I cant post a picture of my family on vacation, without knowing they will be made fun of?? (putting aside safety - remember, I live with a Pit Bull who can rip everyone's faces off if they decide to track me down... according to them - the pit bull part)


ON A SIDE NOTE - When I posted a junk mail email account a few months back, I had -SEVERAL- posters from 'there' email me, to let me know they had never made fun of me, and wanted me to know they werent like that. Feeling guilty? Knowing it's wrong? But still posting amongst them. Okey dokey.

Dont worry emailers - I wont out you, to make you look less big & bad amongst your cool friends.

 

[Mkrop]

When did I post where I live? And I've never posted anything revealing about my family, just random things that are in no way traceable, and some vents that can't pin point where I live.

You should really reread your posts. I know you think you dont but you put stuff out there all the time. Even on your "innocent" posts about the Shore you indicated where you were staying, if I recall, I dont remeber now where but at the time I just shook my head bc if I was having the problems you were I would say nothing more than the Jersey Shore.

So even though I havent been on the boards for a long time I have seen you and other reveal personal stuff.

I have since learned that I need to be more careful myself, we all should!

 

[Bonnie40]

And if you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Same concept.

You can't tell others to take responsibility for their actions without taking a good look at those actions, which went on for years, that prompted the owners of this board to finally do something about the people who were attacking their members.

It's one thing to have your posts and reputation ripped to shreds on some other board for nothing other than someone else's twisted fun. This is America. You are free to be as mean as you want on boards that allow that kind of meanness. But it's quite another thing when the person ridiculing you behind your back somewhere else is posing as a nice person on the DIS, where many people feel secure enough to talk openly with people who they think are friends.
It's the height of arrogance to tell the victims on the DIS to take responsibility for their actions while, at the same time, whining about how other people's actions got them banned from the DIS.

**DISCLAIMER** This post was not meant as a personal attack on anyone nor should it be inferred as one. This is merely an observation about a situation and is directed at no one in particular.

Come on...you can't honestly believe that over 100 banned DIS members did this? I'm not disputing that there may have been a few, but nothing close to the number that were banished here....It's a sweeping generalization to paint them all with this 'bad' brush...

As well, there are very few people here who walk around feeling like they're 'victims' - there are far more banned members who fell 'victim' to a knee-jerk reaction to programming mistake...

**DISCLAIMER** This post was not meant as a personal attack on anyone nor should it be inferred as one. This is merely an observation about a situation and is directed at no one in particular.

 

[CPT Tripss]

This so reminds me of that great Lindsay Lohan flik written by Tina Fey

I know the mods ignore questions about why points were given (talk about Jr. High - they even keep a "permanent record") so I can easily accept that they ignore requests for reinstatement.

 

[CathrynRose]

BTW - There a few posters 'there' I like, a LOT. They are few and far between, but they know who they are.

 

[In a hurry]

ON A SIDE NOTE - When I posted a junk mail email account a few months back, I had -SEVERAL- posters from 'there' email me, to let me know they had never made fun of me, and wanted me to know they werent like that. Feeling guilty? Knowing it's wrong? But still posting amongst them. Okey dokey.

Dont worry emailers - I wont out you, to make you look less big & bad amongst your cool friends.

Not cool to mess with family members. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

OTOH, I belong to several groups in life, work, and social that have people in them that I don't approve of, nor like. Sometimes it is even a topic on which we disagree strongly. Of course, I don't go around talking about them when this happens. Maybe it is just easier when no one really knows anyone face to face.

 

[agnes!]

Maybe it is me, but I don't feel as at home here as I used to. Are people staying away after the "incident" or are things just changing as things are wont to do? On page one I counted 19 big clique threads. Maybe if I joined one of them I would feel more at home, but that has never been how I have done things. I always loved the little threads. I have learned so much about all different aspects of life in the US and many other places.
Sorry if I am bumming you out, if anyone is reading this, I just feel nostalgic for the "old days".

Just wanted to re-post the OP.

agnes!

 

[Bonnie40]

I do hope the TPTB understand that there is still much frustration out there and there will be for some time....most would agree things are different here....some like it....most don't. I don't actually have a dog in this fight, so to speak, but based on principle, the entire fiasco still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth....I'm outta here for a bit....carry on!

 

[drag n' fly]

I swore I was not going to touch this thread with a ten foot pole...oh well here it goes.

I was not on the DIS the day the incident happened. Knew nothing about it until I logged in days later. Even then it still took me a couple weeks to figure it out. I did go to "the other site" to see what all the fuss was about. What I read are some really unhappy people with the DIS board. They are entitled to their opinion. It is a basic constitutional right to free speech. But where does one cross the line? When you post on the internet it is not an anonymous posting. It is there for millions of people to read freely. You essentially put yourself out there for anyone and everyone to offer their opinion whether it is wanted or not, intelligent or not, kind or not. The internet is a relatively new frontier of communication. The people that they talk about on the other board for the most part are by username on the DIS board. Even though I don't agree with everything being said they are not personally identifying anyone for the most part that I can see. They are allowed to be mad, they are allowed to disagree with other peoples opinions. Just because they choose to do it a lot more harshly than we would want does not make it illegal. I have read a lot of the posts on this thread. Some people are receiveing threats etc. When has it gone too far? IMO that is when it has gone too far. An opinion is just that...it means nothing. But when someone is being personally threatened call the police

 

[Cantw8]

Good Grief, do we seriously need to rehash all this crap again??? I doubt that the OP's original intent of the thread was to turn it into a personal sounding board for "victims". I do believe that it has taken a turn that proves her original statement

 

[Pinnie]

So you think it's all well and good to accuse someone of being a pedophile with absolutely nothing but hot air to back it up?

I am not quite sure of what you are talking about but if a poster said something that made me wonder or posted pictures that were out of the norm, then again, it boils down to personal responsiblity. I have to believe that everyone makes judgement calls every day.

In this day and age, we are taught to be cautious and careful. If anyone causes my radar to go up online, then it is what it is.

Anyone can accuse, but the truth comes out when the jury speaks.

pinnie

 

[Pinnie]

To continue your metaphor, some people can stand the heat but take objection to the cook purposely throwing hot oil all over them.

Then STAY OUTTA THE KITCHEN. It really is that simple.

pinnie

 

[Pinnie]

I agree I was told many times that they were just giving me advice, (that I didn't ask for,) to try to "help," but then those same posters are the ones that post over there, talking trash all the time.

Talking trash all the time.

Again, I thought reading over there was an offense that causes banning here. How do you know it is ALL the time if you are not over there?

Ya know, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole, hun, right?

pinnie

 

[diznygirl]

Talking trash all the time.

Again, I thought reading over there was an offense that causes banning here. How do you know it is ALL the time if you are not over there?

Ya know, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole, hun, right?

pinnie

Good question. How do you know they don't?


It's not illegal to do what they are doing - but it certainly is a whole lot of other things. They do it because they can, doesn't mean they should.

 

[Pinnie]

Good question. How do you know they don't?

I am not the one that made the statement. I would like her to explain.

pinnie