Should siblings be legally allowed to marry?

Should siblings be legally allowed to marry?

  • Yes

  • No

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Um ick and no. There are enough people in this world to find your soulmate outside your house. I have to go read about these people-where they raised together? This same ick for me applies to those multiwife marriages where sisters marry the same guy(actually I think the ick applies to any multiwife marriage) Guess I am not as open minded as I thought I was.
 
Marriage is intended to unite two unrelated people into a family.


Marriage is intended to unite two unrelated people of different genders into a family.

If some groups want to take out the "different genders" part, others should be able to take out the "unrelated" part or the "two" part or the "people" part.

Funny how some posters are completely intolerant when it comes to something they don't agree with, but if you don't agree with them, you're called a bigoted homophobe.

As far as I'm concerned, I'll keep marraige the way it is, thanks. One man; One woman. If you want to do anything else - knock yourself out, so long as all parties are consenting adults. Just don't expect it to be legitimized by the government.
 
Marriage is intended to unite two unrelated people of different genders into a family.

If some groups want to take out the "different genders" part, others should be able to take out the "unrelated" part or the "two" part or the "people" part.

Funny how some posters are completely intolerant when it comes to something they don't agree with, but if you don't agree with them, you're called a bigoted homophobe.

As far as I'm concerned, I'll keep marraige the way it is, thanks. One man; One woman. If you want to do anything else - knock yourself out, so long as all parties are consenting adults. Just don't expect it to be legitimized by the government.


Do you support close relatives, ie. brother/sister, getting married? Your post in unclear.

I do support gay marriage. There is a HUGE difference between two unrelated adults getting married and two adults who are already closely related getting married. And governments in the United States and abroad are already legitimizing homosexual marriages, thank you very much.

For the record, I have not called you anything.
 
On the show last night, they did say that

(1) Hemophelia is a trait that is passed through the mother's bloodline and the perpetuity of the disease through royal bloodlines had nothing to do with inbreeding, it was just passsed on through the mothers' bloodlines.

(2) the risk of genetic abnormalities for a baby which is a product of incest is only about 2% greater than the risk for a baby of non-realted parents.

I am not going to spend hours searching the web to verify these facts, b/c (a) I am at work and actually have a task at hand, (b) I only have a sister and could not breed with her anyway, and (c) I think the concept of incest is pretty skanky [but I also think the concept of people like Britney & Fed-Ex procreating is grody, so take that for what it is worth]. But if anyone can prove or disprove the facts thrown out last night, post it here and enlighten us all, please. THANKS!

I THINK you might be right about the the 2% thing -- that sounds like what I've read elsewhere. (I'd be curious if anyone knows for certain) That was why I said in an earlier post that the risks involved in inbreeding (at least involving a single instance, not repeated instances down a bloodline) are MUCH smaller than a lot of people think.

Actually, on that note, there are lots of areas around the world where first-cousin inbreeding is perfectly acceptable, if not almost the norm. There are some risks (much smaller than the already small risks for siblings) for first cousins, but yet, there is no universal cultural taboo against it. In fact, for some societies this kind of inbreeding seems to offer some positives, in that it strengthens family bonds across different branches of the family tree without too much risk of genetic abnormalities. Also, it is interesting to point out that different societies have different definitions of family "closeness" -- there are some in which, for example, your dad's brother is considered as "close" as your own brother/sister, therefore, you are not allowed to marry him because that would be "icky" incest. Whereas other societies, not icky. And yet others, it's "icky" to mate with your mom's sister's husband (or whatever, just giving examples). In other words, this whole thing about "universal taboos" is not as clear cut as we might think, since there are so many different definitions of what a "close" relative is and what counts as incest. I do think there have been some societies historically that have considered brother-sister inbreeding as somewhat acceptable.

Anyway, the point is that there isn't any "natural law" about these sort of things, much as some people might think. On that note, most animal species are (at least sometimes) incestuous, so it is not "unnatural" and nor are isolated incidences of it a death sentence for a species.

Re: hemophilia -- you are right and not right. It is passed through the mother's bloodline. Whether it is related to incest or not just depends -- usually no, sometimes yess. I don't know what happened with the british royal family, but I think I read that was an isolated mutation (there was no history of it in the families involved until one particular queen who passed it to her sons-- can't remember which one). However, if you take a brother and sister who are both recessive for hemophilia and they interbreed, then well, the incidence of their sons developing it is quite high (like 25 percent?). Obviously, this doesn't happen a lot -- usually it is just two unrelated people who get together and have children and have no idea they both happen to be recessive for it.
 

I also watched this and I so wish that I hadn't. I stopped at the point where the birth mother was about to describe getting busy with her birth son:scared: There is a reason that these relationships are taboo. I am grossed out by how common the 1/2 brother/sister tried to make their relationship sound. There are internet communities full of people in this type of relationship:confused3 I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about it.
 
Right now there are 9 disers that scare the heck outta me!!!!:scared1:
...and 14 I am not too sure about!:confused3


Even if in the very very RARE instance that 2 people fall in love, not knowing that they are siblings.....and DO find out that they are....it is STILL a BIG YUK!:scared1:
 
But didnt some people once think that whites and blacks getting married was "ewwww!!"

What about the rights of the consensual loving brother and sister that wants to get married? Isnt it discrimnation to stop them from marrying? Are they not provided the same rights as everyone else under the 14th Amendment? :rolleyes:

I think the judicial branch should step in and remedy this situation because of all the "intolerance", "hate", and "bigotry" that exists against 2 loving people that want to get married and afforded the same rights as any other married couple in the US. The judicial system should save these brothers and sisters from the uneducated masses who are trying to impose their morals on others. :rolleyes1

:rotfl:

Although I voted "no", I find it funny how 'icky' and 'wrong' everyone thinks it is for two consensual loving adults to marry because they are related; just replace the words "brother and sister" with 'same sex couple' and then we'd see how different the responses would be in this thread.
 
:rotfl:

Although I voted "no", I find it funny how 'icky' and 'wrong' everyone thinks it is for two consensual loving adults to marry because they are related; just replace the words "brother and sister" with 'same sex couple' and then we'd see how different the responses would be in this thread.


Yup, I agree. The door is being opened on the redefinition of marriage and it will be interesting to see how many groups attempt to get through that door.
 
Prety soon people will be talking about NAMBLA and other options they know people don't like to make their point about homosexual marriage. In other words, they got nothing...
 
Let me preface this by saying the thought of a brother and sister marrying puts me at risk of tasting my lunch on its way back up. Ewwwwww!

However, I struggle with the notion of telling consenting adults they can't marry. Yes, the "ick" factor is high when it comes to closely related people marrying. I can't even imagine a sane adult wanting to marry a sibling (aside from some rare cases of a person falling in love with someone they did not realize was a sibling). I also don't understand a man's desire to marry another (unrelated) man--but I support him having the right to do so.

Is my opinion and failure to understand enough of a reason to deny consenting adults the right to marry? Not all that long ago, a marriage like mine was illegal. Why? Because many thought it was wrong for people of different races to marry. I'm sure some people would prefer that it still were illegal. I think this is always in the back of my mind when discussing a consenting adult's right to marry another consenting adult.
 
i voted no, but the more I think about it the more I am on the fence about it.

The argument that legalizing incest would encourage families to brainwash a child from birth into believing they are a future spouse for a parent or sibling is not entirely valid imho. People all ready do this. I see no evidence to indicate there would be a rush of people going out and marrying their daughters or forcing their children to get married to each other if it became legal. They don't need the permission of the government to do it because they're performing incest now while it's illegal.

I just feel hypocritical saying gay marriage should be legal, and yet say another marriage between consenting (key word here - consenting) adults is not.
 
Right now there are 9 disers that scare the heck outta me!!!!:scared1:
...and 14 I am not too sure about!:confused3


Even if in the very very RARE instance that 2 people fall in love, not knowing that they are siblings.....and DO find out that they are....it is STILL a BIG YUK!:scared1:

I voted yes just to freak you guys out. :lmao:

But really... I would vote NO, marrying a brother/sister couple is just a waste of a marriage license. They’re already family, why would they want to marry?
 
Thanks - interesting link. I had a similar debate with a friend a while back about a half sister and brother who wound up married. I think they were on the Dr. Phil show. They did not know they were related until after the marriage. This actually didn't bug me that much - I'd say go through a lot genetic testing before you have kids, but otherwise I'd be okay with it. I did say that I thought this was very different from two step-siblings that were raised together from a young age trying to marry - that seems more like incest to me, regardless of the actual genetic component. My friend was supporting the opposite position - it would not be okay for the half siblings to marry, but it would be for the step-siblings. Knowing about this effect helps me understand where my feelings come from.
 
had a similar debate with a friend a while back about a half sister and brother who wound up married. I think they were on the Dr. Phil show. They did not know they were related until after the marriage.

The possibility of close relative unknowingly marrying has fascinated man for many centuries. Remember Oedipus?

President Franklin Roosevelt and his wife were cousins. I wonder if their marriage would be socially acceptable today?

A couple of months ago there was an article in either the Washington Post or NYT about the unusually high rate of certain birth defects in Saudi Arabia. The phenomenon was attributed to the centuries old practice of marrying within one's own tribal group, thus limiting the gene pool. The Saudi government has started a campaign to make this practice taboo and raise awareness of the health implications of inbreeding.
 
The possibility of close relative unknowingly marrying has fascinated man for many centuries. Remember Oedipus?

President Franklin Roosevelt and his wife were cousins. I wonder if their marriage would be socially acceptable today?

A couple of months ago there was an article in either the Washington Post or NYT about the unusually high rate of certain birth defects in Saudi Arabia. The phenomenon was attributed to the centuries old practice of marrying within one's own tribal group, thus limiting the gene pool. The Saudi government has started a campaign to make this practice taboo and raise awareness of the health implications of inbreeding.
There is a generic disease that I believe they call Maple Sugar in the Amish community. It almost never happens outside the Amish community but is common in the Amish community. The Amish do not marry siblings, but the many generation of marriages in a small group of people has allowed this extremely rare genetic defect to become a growing problem. Think of how bad it would get with a few generations of siblings marrying and keeping the family tree as a family trunk.
 












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