Should I surprise my 5 year old?

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Here's the deal. We're planning a last minute trip for early September. DS hasn't been since he was 2 years old. At which point, the only height restricted attraction he was tall enough for was the Barnstormer. He was scared, while we were waiting in line, but ended up loving it. He whooped, like Goofy does when he's falling in cartoons, the whole time. It was adorable and I wish I would have recorded it. He didn't do so well on the Flight of the Hippogriff at Universal. It was a bit more difficult to keep him in his seat (shared lap bar and my thighs are much bigger than his) and that was a bit scary for him.
In general, he's a very nervous kid, and doesn't like to try things, but usually loves them once he does. It's a trust thing though, so if he doesn't enjoy the first thing I encourage him to do, he clams up and won't try anything else for a while. This is more pervasive when he's tired and hungry.

Anyway...he's going to be 5 this week, and measured right at 40 inches tall at his appointment yesterday. My question is in two parts:
1) Should I even attempt to take him on the 40 inch attractions? I LOVED Thunder Mountain, when I was his age, but I also had siblings around my age who were dare devils, and have a very competitive nature. He has inherited my competitive nature, but his closest sibling is almost 4 years younger than him. Certainly if "baby" was going to do something, he would, but she's too small to ride those things.

2) We're planning on surprising him, but do you think it would go over better if I let him know about the trip an appropriate time beforehand (not today, because he'll ask when we're leaving 1000 times a day before we go) then let him watch YouTube videos of the rides I want to take him on?

3) Should I show him the videos anyway, even without telling him of my intent? He'd probably happily watch them with me for more "pad" time. I'm familiarizing the little one with Mickey in the same way.

I know there are plenty of things we can do with him without doing all of these extra attractions, but I love them, and want to share them with him.
 
Disclaimer: I do not have children.

Having said that, I was a kid once, and I was a "very nervous kid". Basically, I grew into a very nervous adult. I've had anxiety for as long as I can remember. I do not like surprises. A lot of people that are anxious do not. It stresses us out and it is the complete opposite of fun. I would suggest that you show him the videos. You can still surprise him beforehand and do a little countdown with him. I know you want to do those things, and share them with him, but remember that you want him to be having fun while he is doing it, not have it feel like torture.

I'm sure that there will be varying opinions on this, but I just wanted to give mine, since I was a kid that was anxious.
 
I would show him videos if it something you've already done and have been doing.

You know your son the best. If he is scared but you know that he would love it once he rode I would try it. Kids are usually scared of the unknown. My nephew at that age was a little scared when we went to ride certain rides. He saw splash and said he didn't want to drop that big. We said you didn't have to do the drop (little white lie) and he said ok let's ride. Loved it. When we walked away he said he loved the drop but glad it wasn't the BIG one we can see lol. He rode 4x on our trip and on the last ride we told him he did the big drop. He didn't believe us bc that drop would be scary. Lol

I'm not saying lie to your child but we knew if he didn't know that he was doing the drop he would ride and love it. Which he did.

As for a surprise I would do a surprise but maybe do it a few days before so he can prepare himself.

My nephew doesn't know we are going in September. He is now 8 and will be missing some school so we want him to know before we leave but not so he ask everyday. I've planed a scavenger hunt that he puts a puzzle together. I plan to do it the week before so he has a week of countdown before we leave.
 

That's the other thing about telling him too early. He will talk about it at school nonstop. We ordered him some presents for his birthday, and he knows about it. He asks several times a day when they're coming. I'm worried it would be too disruptive at school for him to know about the trip.
I think even if I have him watch the videos just the day before we're planning on riding the rides, he'll at least know what to expect. We always take breaks, so it will be easy enough to just use a few minutes a day to watch the videos, if I can't figure out a good way to do it otherwise. Granted, that won't help with planning FP. That's only a huge problem in the Magic Kingdom though. Everywhere else, the high priority FPs are things with height requirements anyway.

If I start showing him the videos now, I think he'll start talking about going, even if I don't say that's why I'm showing them to him. He likes to say things like "When I'm 5 years old, I'll eat asparagus again," or "Tomorrow, we're gonna go to the airport. The airplane will take us to Disney World."
 
We leave in the 9th so I'm planning on telling him on that Friday before we leave. That gives him a few days but most of them are weekend/holidays.

Kids don't need a lot of time just a few days to adjust. So I don't think he needs weeks like older kids or teens.

I Would get at least one FP for one or two rides that are "thrill" rides if you think he might be interested. That way if he says ok you dont have to wait in a long line only to have him decided to not ride after watching/hearing the ride. Sometimes that changed kids minds. Lol

He might surprise you as to what he will do. My favorite old trick is.... He looks younger then you and see he loved it! ( watching people coming off the ride. Lol)

Regardless there are enough rides that he will enjoy to fill your time. I can't stand parents that drag a crying screaming child one a ride even if they end up loving it ( which I don't think you will do )
 
When my kids were 4 and 6 we surprised them.

It was great. We all have a great memory of them seeing the Disney sign and figuring it out. It was wonderful and magical and we ALMOST did exactly the same thing for this trip.

But there were some planning things that I wanted their input on, so we told them a month before the trip. It has been GREAT talking about it, getting excited, watching Disney movies, watching the Disney video (over and over.)

Good things about either approach!!
 
I am planning to surprise my 5 and 3 year olds a day before our trip with a call from Mickey Mouse himself ! Followed by a surprise goody bag filled with autograph books and such "tinker bell" gifts. This is the first time we are doing the Mickey Mouse call but we do a tinker bell gifts each morning of our trip themed according to the day's activities, just some economical items as flip flops or such for a water park day or glow sticks for a fireworks night etc also for character dinners I make out a cute invitation card that I give out as tinker gift the morning off for surprise!
It's just so magical to see the expressions on there face ! Priceless !
 
We are surprising our two children, age 7 and nearly 3 at time of travel. At the moment we plan to tell them either a week or a few days before. I know they will love it :teeth:. When we tell them, we are going to leave out a slight detail, staying at the GF! When we pull up our DD age 7 will not believe her eyes.

One reason we aren't telling them is that we have over a year before we travel and they would not stop asking 'how long until we go'. It doesn't stop me talking about it and looking at rides on YouTube with them though! I just say 'whenever we next go to Disney' and they are non the wiser.

I don't know how I'm going to keep this secret for so long :ssst:
 
My mom said to us when We are young We go to Montreal! When! Now! Go up, pack your things, We take the bus for 6am. I hated that! I loved to go at Montreal (We lived at 800km of there) but i forgot lot of think like my underware! My grand-father was the type We going before you go out of Bed and my mom learn this of him.

I hate surprises! Hate hate Hate!

I am a planner, i plan also the unplanning lol! I like anticipation. I love to Check where i go and all fun i can have.
 
For the height thig - just because your doctor measured him at 40" doesn't mean the Disney sticks will measure him at 40" but you should make his FastPasses for those attractions you think he will be interested in.

As for surprising at that age, my son and daughter-in-law (well, she became my daughter-in-law on that trip :)) decided to not surprise my granddaughter on her first trip. She didn't know she was there until we pulled up to the first purple sign. While the trip was great, what my daughter-in-law said later was that if would have been nice for my granddaughter to have had some input and insight into what she was getting into since the only thing she'd ever been to was Cedar Point and Disney World was much more than that. That's not the case in your situation but the input would have been nice. On their second trip, now with my grandson in tow (five at that time as well), the kids got the news a week in advance so they could help with planning.
 
I would definitely surprise him, BUT show him videos of all the fun things you will want to share with him. I would say things like ...the last time we went to Disney, you weren't allowed to ride this, now that you are taller and older, you could. Or this is my favorite ride, maybe some day when we go back, you will want to ride with me.
Stuff like that to get him in the mind set that you want to do all these great rides with him, but that it is in the future.
Anxiety can be very difficult when you have to consider the family dynamic when planning.

For example, we have had annual passes for many years and once surprised the kids with a day off of school to go to Disney (they were still in public school at the time)
My son was in 4th grade and my daughter (she hates surprises by the way) was in 5th.
DS was thrilled to even have a day off and when we drove under the MK signs was fist pumping my DD and all excited.
My DD, however, was upset because she would miss chorus and was afraid her teacher would take her out of the school play because she missed practice. :(
I am happy to say that the minute we drove into the parking lot she was not at all concerned with missing chorus and had a great time. :)
Sorry for the digression...I just had to share that with you from another parent who has a child who is anxious sometimes.
 
Was a nervous kid, now a high strung adult...no surprises.

I would suggest if you are set with a surprise idea, tell him you are going to some surprise place and give him really random clues and tell him you will let him know where you are going on a certain day. If he guesses before do not tell him...make the rule that he has to guess everything exactly right for you to reveal the location. Maybe he will guess early, which will hopefully make nervous energy excited energy.

Tell him ahead of time when you are going to be giving him clues, like every Tuesday or after he brushes his teeth or come home from the dentist or some task your child does not like. This will help encourage him to do the task or look forward to it, feeding him positive reinforcement the whole time!

Make up all the clues before you reveal the first one.

When the time comes, do the reveal, and watch videos about the trip! A few years ago, my hubby did this set up as a birthday trip. It was for a weekend away at a beach town b&b and whale watching. His clues where blue, brown, 83, wood, metal, an animal that begins with D, the letter B, sand and a wave symbol. Lol.

Instead of being upset about being surprised, I was excited and engaged in the whole game. All of my coworkers were trying to guess my surprise too. I actually guessed about 90% of it but got the wrong beach city! Lol!
 
Surprises really work for some kids--and really don't for others. We've all seen the giddy, happy screaming, OMG reactions---but have a look on youtube at "Disney World surprise gone wrong" and you'll find thousands of videos with the opposite reaction. I loved the idea of surprising my kids, but when I really thought about it, I knew in my heart of heart that my daughter, who can be quite nervous (especially with routine changes), would not like being surprised. I realized that for my family, it wouldn't be fair on her or us, to set up a surprise that had a real possibility of being an anti-climatic let down.

Instead we had a nice dinner at one of our favourite restaurants. Played mad-libs while waiting for our food and included a "we're going to Disney in September" madlib. When she read it, she just quietly asked if it was real, smiled and said "cool" and then moved onto other discussions. She had a few days to digest it and now she is a very enthusiastic Disney planner. We're having a great time watching the youtube ride videos as a family as well as starting to do disney crafts like custom mouse ears and t-shirts.
 
Just gotta say, the new multi-quote is hard to get used to...that's what happens when you take a year break from the DIS (It is pretty cool that I exited last night and it saved my response though)

We leave in the 9th so I'm planning on telling him on that Friday before we leave. That gives him a few days but most of them are weekend/holidays.

Kids don't need a lot of time just a few days to adjust. So I don't think he needs weeks like older kids or teens.

I Would get at least one FP for one or two rides that are "thrill" rides if you think he might be interested. That way if he says ok you dont have to wait in a long line only to have him decided to not ride after watching/hearing the ride. Sometimes that changed kids minds. Lol

He might surprise you as to what he will do. My favorite old trick is.... He looks younger then you and see he loved it! ( watching people coming off the ride. Lol)

Regardless there are enough rides that he will enjoy to fill your time. I can't stand parents that drag a crying screaming child one a ride even if they end up loving it ( which I don't think you will do )

Right now, I'm trying to decided between Splash Mountain and Thunder Mountain. More from a "where would FP be most valuable standpoint." If he gets up to the front of the line and doesn't want to ride, it's not the end of the world. I'm not a lover of Splash, but I certainly don't want to wait in line for it forever either, and think it would be good to have a FP for it right before we leave for our break that day. I think we could do Thunder Mountain fairly early in the morning after the Mine Train without too much trouble. Soarin' is definitely on the itinerary, but I think we'll skip Dinosaur.

When my kids were 4 and 6 we surprised them.

It was great. We all have a great memory of them seeing the Disney sign and figuring it out. It was wonderful and magical and we ALMOST did exactly the same thing for this trip.

But there were some planning things that I wanted their input on, so we told them a month before the trip. It has been GREAT talking about it, getting excited, watching Disney movies, watching the Disney video (over and over.)

Good things about either approach!!

The planning is difficult, even beyond the FPs. Choosing between Value resorts has been hard, because honestly the only one that appeals to me is AoA, and of course it's completely booked for our dates. So I narrowed it down to Movies and Pop, then chose Pop, because I've always told myself that if I had to stay at a Value resort that would be the one (pre AoA). It would have been nice to have DS's input, but he'll love either. There's a slight possibility that our original quote for CSR was wrong (my TA caught it, but she's super busy this weekend, so she hasn't been able to double check yet, and I just wanted an on property res to lock in FP before it opens to the general public next week) and if that's true, and the new quote is low enough. then we'll be staying there instead. DH loves his creature comforts. So, it may be better that I didn't give DS the super fun kid friendly options, then switch to somewhere else for his Daddy's sake.
DH is basically useless when it comes to planning. He loves Disney, but doesn't love to talk about it. He told me last night that he trusts my planning, which is all well and good, but it's not an easy job, even when it is super fun. Now I'm thinking that if we do switch, I'm going to surprise DH. So he can think we'll be staying in the tiny room with a rubix cube staring us in the face right outside our door. The potential issue with that is if he starts talking up the hotel we're staying at for DS's benefit after we tell him.

I hate surprises, but I know other people, who aren't as much of control freaks as I am, love them.

I am planning to surprise my 5 and 3 year olds a day before our trip with a call from Mickey Mouse himself ! Followed by a surprise goody bag filled with autograph books and such "tinker bell" gifts. This is the first time we are doing the Mickey Mouse call but we do a tinker bell gifts each morning of our trip themed according to the day's activities, just some economical items as flip flops or such for a water park day or glow sticks for a fireworks night etc also for character dinners I make out a cute invitation card that I give out as tinker gift the morning off for surprise!
It's just so magical to see the expressions on there face ! Priceless !

Right now, I'm thinking the best time to tell him would be Friday after he gets home from school. The flight I'm considering leaves at 6:45am on Sunday morning (and we still don't get to Disney until 6pm!) so we'll be driving in on Saturday to stay with one of my parents before we leave.

I do need to start getting all our Disney stuff together. Definitely need to make sure our fans are in working order, and possibly buy a few more. Then figure out water delivery, if we won't have a rental car to go get it ourselves.

We are surprising our two children, age 7 and nearly 3 at time of travel. At the moment we plan to tell them either a week or a few days before. I know they will love it :teeth:. When we tell them, we are going to leave out a slight detail, staying at the GF! When we pull up our DD age 7 will not believe her eyes.

One reason we aren't telling them is that we have over a year before we travel and they would not stop asking 'how long until we go'. It doesn't stop me talking about it and looking at rides on YouTube with them though! I just say 'whenever we next go to Disney' and they are non the wiser.

I don't know how I'm going to keep this secret for so long :ssst:

Haha...yeah...a year would kill me. If we weren't going in 6 weeks, I probably wouldn't even consider attempting a surprise. I did the "next time we go to Disney" thing with DS before our potential trip last year. Maybe that's why he's still obsessed with it? I didn't tell him about that one, because I knew there was a high chance it would get cancelled, and then it did.

My mom said to us when We are young We go to Montreal! When! Now! Go up, pack your things, We take the bus for 6am. I hated that! I loved to go at Montreal (We lived at 800km of there) but i forgot lot of think like my underware! My grand-father was the type We going before you go out of Bed and my mom learn this of him.

I hate surprises! Hate hate Hate!

I am a planner, i plan also the unplanning lol! I like anticipation. I love to Check where i go and all fun i can have.

For the height thig - just because your doctor measured him at 40" doesn't mean the Disney sticks will measure him at 40" but you should make his FastPasses for those attractions you think he will be interested in.

As for surprising at that age, my son and daughter-in-law (well, she became my daughter-in-law on that trip :)) decided to not surprise my granddaughter on her first trip. She didn't know she was there until we pulled up to the first purple sign. While the trip was great, what my daughter-in-law said later was that if would have been nice for my granddaughter to have had some input and insight into what she was getting into since the only thing she'd ever been to was Cedar Point and Disney World was much more than that. That's not the case in your situation but the input would have been nice. On their second trip, now with my grandson in tow (five at that time as well), the kids got the news a week in advance so they could help with planning.

He actually measured at 40.5 inches without shoes, and he wasn't standing up very tall. That's something I probably should work with him on too (not being afraid of the stick). With shoes he'll probably be over 41, even if he slumps a little.
The issue with getting his input a week out is that FP availability will be less than what it is now. Restaurants the same deal. So other than, what do you want to do first "Peter Pan or Winnie-the-Pooh" there won't be much planning he can help me with.
I am considering adding Water Parks once we get there, but I think it will be too much, and I'm not sure the budget can support it.

I would definitely surprise him, BUT show him videos of all the fun things you will want to share with him. I would say things like ...the last time we went to Disney, you weren't allowed to ride this, now that you are taller and older, you could. Or this is my favorite ride, maybe some day when we go back, you will want to ride with me.
Stuff like that to get him in the mind set that you want to do all these great rides with him, but that it is in the future.
Anxiety can be very difficult when you have to consider the family dynamic when planning.

For example, we have had annual passes for many years and once surprised the kids with a day off of school to go to Disney (they were still in public school at the time)
My son was in 4th grade and my daughter (she hates surprises by the way) was in 5th.
DS was thrilled to even have a day off and when we drove under the MK signs was fist pumping my DD and all excited.
My DD, however, was upset because she would miss chorus and was afraid her teacher would take her out of the school play because she missed practice. :(
I am happy to say that the minute we drove into the parking lot she was not at all concerned with missing chorus and had a great time. :)
Sorry for the digression...I just had to share that with you from another parent who has a child who is anxious sometimes.

That's a good idea. Luckily, he's our eldest, so there won't be much difficultly catering to him. DD won't be able to ride any of this stuff, so if he decides he doesn't want to, we can just move on. I actually enjoyed being able to plan without most of it, during our last trip. We did single rider for some of our favorites. It's easier to fit things in when you don't have to choose between a FP at TSMM and RnRC.

Yeah...most of my siblings would be the kid who would freak out about missing school. I don't think DS will, but it does make me nervous that he hasn't even started the year yet, so I have no idea what he'll be missing. I doubt they'll plan anything super cool that week but...
Since we'll be leaving on the weekend, and he has zero grasp of how long it takes for time to pass, I don't think he'll actually make the connection that he's missing school. But if he misses a jar party, or something like that, he might be upset. I think it's early enough in the year that we'll avoid most of that though.

Was a nervous kid, now a high strung adult...no surprises.

I would suggest if you are set with a surprise idea, tell him you are going to some surprise place and give him really random clues and tell him you will let him know where you are going on a certain day. If he guesses before do not tell him...make the rule that he has to guess everything exactly right for you to reveal the location. Maybe he will guess early, which will hopefully make nervous energy excited energy.

Tell him ahead of time when you are going to be giving him clues, like every Tuesday or after he brushes his teeth or come home from the dentist or some task your child does not like. This will help encourage him to do the task or look forward to it, feeding him positive reinforcement the whole time!

Make up all the clues before you reveal the first one.

When the time comes, do the reveal, and watch videos about the trip! A few years ago, my hubby did this set up as a birthday trip. It was for a weekend away at a beach town b&b and whale watching. His clues where blue, brown, 83, wood, metal, an animal that begins with D, the letter B, sand and a wave symbol. Lol.

Instead of being upset about being surprised, I was excited and engaged in the whole game. All of my coworkers were trying to guess my surprise too. I actually guessed about 90% of it but got the wrong beach city! Lol!

Interesting perspective. He would probably guess Disney World on his first guess though, because for some reason he thinks that's the only place airplanes and trains go....
 
I'm glad I prepped my son via youtube for his first trip. I found however that on subsequent trips he gets really excited and misbehaves a lot now if he knows a trip is coming. For our trip in November, I think I'll try to keep it a little more of a surprise (he knows we're going, but he's not really good with dates so if we don't do a countdown or anything, he might do better).
 
Interesting perspective. He would probably guess Disney World on his first guess though, because for some reason he thinks that's the only place airplanes and trains go....

Yea, he might guess Disney at first, the idea was to make it an anticipated surprise, not a lie or deception, which seems to be what freaks out kids, plus not getting the time to process it, loads of emotions all at once, excitement, fear, anxiety, happiness, change in routine...so I was trying to come up with some modified way to let them know something is up without overloading their lil hearts and brains.

My first guess with my hubby's surprise was Disney, too..lol...in my case it was much closer to home then that. Lol. YOU know your child better then anyone and I hope you have a great time, surprise or no surprise!
 
The only ride I've ever "forced" one of my children on was BTMRR, and it was when my son was 5. He can be a ride wimp but once he tries something, he loves it! Space was his favorite ride at our last trip when he was 9.

Anyway, he started crying right before we loaded at BTMRR but I made him go on. I got so many dirty looks from other people but I knew he'd love it and he did! Probably rode it 5x that trip alone.

You know your son best. BTW, my son would not have enjoyed being surprised.
 
The only ride I've ever "forced" one of my children on was BTMRR, and it was when my son was 5. He can be a ride wimp but once he tries something, he loves it! Space was his favorite ride at our last trip when he was 9.

Anyway, he started crying right before we loaded at BTMRR but I made him go on. I got so many dirty looks from other people but I knew he'd love it and he did! Probably rode it 5x that trip alone.

You know your son best. BTW, my son would not have enjoyed being surprised.

I think he would enjoy the surprise. He doesn't have trouble adjusting to things under most circumstances. I guess the issue is more whether showing him videos in advance would freak him out more or less.
In our church, we do full immersion baptism at 8 years old. He's been telling us lately that he's not going to get baptized, because he would be too scared. He definitely has a fear of water, and swimming lessons didn't go well this year. So I just keep telling him we'll talk about it more later, and that he'll be older then and know how to swim. He's totally fixated on it, so I'm worried he'll actually work him up to the point where he's completely terrified. It's his choice, but I don't want him to choose against it for the wrong reasons.
Same thing with Disney. Showing him the videos could go either way. He could be super excited, or he could decide that it's absolutely not something he's willing to try without recognizing that he'd actually enjoy it.
 
We took our daughter last year when she was 5. We told her the day that we left, mainly because we didn't want her to ask 1000 times everyday for weeks and also because we didn't want to tell her and then have her be disappointed that we weren't going right away. Now, this wasn't here first, or second, or third trip so maybe others would handle it differently.

As far as 40" rides go, she had already been on Splash the year before, and she loved that dad got soaked, so Splash was an east sell. SDMT is, in my opinion, the perfect intro coaster for young kids. It's short, and super smooth. From that, you can move on to BTMR and Barnstormer if it goes well. The only ride we had to "push" her on was ToT. She was scared (rightfully so!) but we waited outside the exit for other kids her age and talked to them about what they thought and if they had fun. Doing that really helped, along with the promise of something from the gift shop to celebrate. She went on, and it was her favorite ride of the trip.

I have strategically shown her videos or mentioned things about WDW weeks and months ahead of time to A) put the idea in her head, and B) get her familiar with stuff. I don't think it's a bad thing to do that, and I would suggest doing that. Like anything in life, it can go either way, but the upside is enough to give it a shot.
 


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