Seven Dwarves Mine Train

[Mommy2PrincessAbby]

Well I hope it's done for you guys by March, so that we can ride it in May

 

[jennylyn_b]

I agree, it's in and out a mountain mine.... Think you go to Wal Mart and pick it off a shelf.... These are intricately built and designed attractions with an inside and outside theme...Cedar Point.... Skeleton structure and ride cars...

Give Disney it's do, when its done, it's done...

Agreed. Also Disney designed a new type of vehicle for this ride. That requires extra time designing, building and testing. They go all out when they do a new attraction no slap on a new face and change a sign!

 

[DavidNYC]

Just to make a stark comparison here, Disney broke ground on the Mine Train coaster, two months before the Jaws ride at Universal even closed down. That is where the Harry Potter area is opening up next summer.

So Disney is taking roughly the same amount of time to build ONE attraction that it is going to take Universal to build the ENTIRE Harry Potter phase 2 land. And it might even be a bit longer than Harry Potter in the end when you consider that they first had to get rid of all the Jaws stuff.

Build ONE attraction?? You mean in addition to the new Downtown Disney, and a new DVC property, and . . .

You get my drift. A lot of people here seem to think that the mine train is the only thing that Disney is working on. It may be the only thing you care about but say all Disney is up to now is building one ride is a bit ridiculous. It seems to be exactly on the schedule they set for it. There's probably a lot of work that can't be done while the park is open.

 

[jennylyn_b]

Build ONE attraction?? You mean in addition to the new Downtown Disney, and a new DVC property, and . . .

You get my drift. A lot of people here seem to think that the mine train is the only thing that Disney is working on. It may be the only thing you care about but say all Disney is up to now is building one ride is a bit ridiculous. It seems to be exactly on the schedule they set for it. There's probably a lot of work that can't be done while the park is open.

Plus supposed plans for other new areas in Ak and HS.... I totally agree with you.

 

[Senator Tressel]

Build ONE attraction??

Yes, we're talking about this one attraction. Harry Potter isn't the only thing Universal is working on either.

Nobody said they changed the time line, just that they had no urgency to get this done quickly. Which nobody disagrees with.

 

[Mad Hattered]

Agreed. Also Disney designed a new type of vehicle for this ride. That requires extra time designing, building and testing. They go all out when they do a new attraction no slap on a new face and change a sign!

Everything you just stated is what Universal has done (except the slap on a new face thing....where have they done that?). Do you honestly think this kiddie coaster is going to be anywhere close to the technical wonder that Forbidden Journey is? Or the Hogwarts Express? Or the Gringott's Bank attraction? Universal would have themed this Mine Train to the max and had it open for business this past Spring.

 

[MSUmom]

If we are putting in our hopes. My family will be there 3rd week in February. I am hoping for soft opening.

 

[labattblue]

Disney management would love all the excuses being laid out there for why this one attraction is taking so long. This isn't a case of a fixed number of Disney employees working on this. It is contractors, and when contractors are given a shorter timeframe to get something done, they hire more workers. Obviously Disney isn't concerned by the lengthy construction period, or even more believable...has ordered the contractors not to get this done before a Disney specified date.


Bottom line...as long as they are working on this, they don't have to announce and start building any other new attractions.

 

[fbarker]

How in the world would it not be open at all by March? It's amazing how they are dragging their feet with this thing. You can give all the excuses you want, but it's taking way longer than it has to. There's no doubt about that.

And your expertise in the building, designing, testing of amusement park rides is what? I am sure that WDW would not drag their feet just to delay the opening of a ride.

 

[WDSearcher]

Yes, we're talking about this one attraction. Harry Potter isn't the only thing Universal is working on either.

Nobody said they changed the time line, just that they had no urgency to get this done quickly. Which nobody disagrees with.

True. But there are also people who are angry about it or upset about it and who keep talking about how long it's taking, as if Disney is incompetent for not being able to open a coaster as fast as the next guy. But it's taking exactly as long as Disney said it would take. Could they have finished it sooner? Of course. But they chose the timeline they chose for whatever reason.

Universal, it can be argued, has more urgency to get new stuff up and open because they don't want to lose the massive attendance bump they got from WWoHP. The numbers associated with Wizarding World are getting softer, and so they're slamming to get new stuff done and keep those numbers (and the resulting effects on stock) up. Disney just got their New Fantasyland bump and isn't getting any attendance red flags, so no need to go double-time.

Could be that they have a grand plan for opening the ride right around the time of other major announcements. Could be they're playing the schedule to open the ride around the same time that other big things are opening in other parks. Maybe they ARE working double-time and are going to surprise everyone by opening it on October 1. But it's not like they're working as slowly as they can just because it's fun to torture their guests. It's part of a plan.

 

[Mad Hattered]

How long should it take to gut a classic ride and throw some Princess stuff in there for a MnG?

 

[DisneyFive]

I'm not talking about Fantasyland though. This one attraction, they started construction on two months before Universal even closed the attraction that was in the spot where Harry Potter is going.

And they're not going to finish that much sooner. One large, immersive, cutting edge, detailed, game-changing land (including a ride that goes between the two parks) vs. one cutting edge, detailed ride. There has been a clear lack of motivation in getting this done.

Problem, is, you HAVE to talk about fantasyland too when talking about the mine ride. Just like you include the ride AND the rest of the Harry Potter land in your comparison, you also have to include the rest of the new fantasyland when talking about the Mine Ride.

Even Disney has a limited number of resources, and many of them I'm sure were split between ALL aspects of the new fantasyland, which the Mine Ride is part of. You can't split it out without considering the rest of fantasyland.

...and Disney builds rides to last for a LONG, LONG time. Space Mountain, Splash, BTMRR, etc... so they need to do it right the first time and plan to keep it that way. Universal rips down and replaces coasters or attractions much more frequently than Disney I believe.

I agree that the Mine Ride seems to be taking forever, but oh well, it's something new to look forward to next year.

Dan

 

[rapunzels]

yes Disney does not simply slap a sign on a bathroom and call it The Android's Dungeon and Baseball Card Shop.

Yes your right! They don't do that! Usually they just slap a women's or men's sign on the bathroom. ; )

 

[WDSearcher]

Everything you just stated is what Universal has done (except the slap on a new face thing....where have they done that?). Do you honestly think this kiddie coaster is going to be anywhere close to the technical wonder that Forbidden Journey is? Or the Hogwarts Express? Or the Gringott's Bank attraction? Universal would have themed this Mine Train to the max and had it open for business this past Spring.

Well ... good for Universal! And for the record, 7DMT (aka "this kiddie coaster") isn't supposed to be the technical wonder that Forbidden Journey is. It has never been touted as a new and amazing technical breakthrough of a ride. So if someone is expecting it to be, they'll be disappointed.

Disney's not working on Mine Train at this pace because they have to. It's not taking this long because they don't know how to build and theme an attraction. They're doing it this way because they want to. They could have had it open for business this past Spring too. But that is not the timeline they chose.

I don't get why some people can't understand that. People are complaining about how long it's taking as if every theme park company in the world is required to work at a certain pace and that if that pace is not kept, they are "losing" or incompetent. Disney and Universal are two different places with two radically different business plans. Bully for Universal for slamming up as much stuff as they're doing right now -- seriously. They barely did any other building or expansion while Harry Potter was being built, and GE wasn't real big on handing over more money until the theme park division could prove to them that the investment was worth it. That's all in the past now, and so it's time for them to put their money where their mouth is. And thankfully for all fans of theme parks everywhere, they are. But just because Universal is going full throttle right now doesn't mean that Disney needs to follow the same game plan. Any more than Universal should be expected to add a bunch of character greetings and stage shows just because Disney has them.

People keep trying to compare the two parks as if they're the same thing. They're not.

 

[WDSearcher]

How long should it take to gut a classic ride and throw some Princess stuff in there for a MnG?

I give up. How long?

 

[cantslowdownptwn]

Yes your right! They don't do that! Usually they just slap a women's or men's sign on the bathroom. ; )

lol, yes! much less confusing!

 

[fairyprincess88]

I agree that the Mine Train construction is taking far longer than it ever needed to. However, as others have said, that's what Disney planned for so that's what their doing. Do I like the way Disney takes forever to build new attractions...no. In fact I think it's ridiculous but they get away with it so they do it. It is what it is.

With that said, I don't even bother trying to say "Universal is doing this, this and this..." around these parts because it wouldn't matter if Universal opened the new Potter along with 16 amazing, state of art, game changing attractions in a year, people on here will still say, "No Universal is blah, blah, horrid, always second best, blah, blah, Universal could never beat Disney blah." It's like wasting typing time to even make a slight comparison.

But yeah, it is fact that Universal is popping out an entire themed land(and if WWoHP Phase 1 is any comparison it will be themed far beyond this mine coaster) with two major attractions, shops and restaurants, plus adding to WWoHP in IOA in a similar if not shorter time span that Disney is taking to create this one ride. Whether this time frame was Disney's intention or not still doesn't change that fact. People are going to comment and ask "why is this thing taking so long" when you see what other parks are doing in comparison. It's not exactly a dig against Disney but a general "why?" that's going to come up.

 

[xipetotec]

Okay, all I wanted to know is if there was a chance of it being open if anyone knw anything. I didn't want to start all this.

What I will say is that I've seen development of quite a few attractions on both sides that have taken a long time. So quick to jump on Harry Potter. They had announced that for holiday season. To the point that a neighbor of mine had booked a trip. Guess what, it didn't ACTUALLY open till almost 6 months later.

These things are ready when they are ready. I am not going to universal on THIS trip because I know the London phase definitely will not be open. But there is a chance SDMT will be and I hope it is. If it isn't it won't ruin my trip.

And when I come back to Orlando, I will be checkin out phase 2 of WWOHP.

 

[jade1]

I agree that the Mine Train construction is taking far longer than it ever needed to. However, as others have said, that's what Disney planned for so that's what their doing. Do I like the way Disney takes forever to build new attractions...no. In fact I think it's ridiculous but they get away with it so they do it. It is what it is.

With that said, I don't even bother trying to say "Universal is doing this, this and this..." around these parts because it wouldn't matter if Universal opened the new Potter along with 16 amazing, state of art, game changing attractions in a year, people on here will still say, "No Universal is blah, blah, horrid, always second best, blah, blah, Universal could never beat Disney blah." It's like wasting typing time to even make a slight comparison.

But yeah, it is fact that Universal is popping out an entire themed land(and if WWoHP Phase 1 is any comparison it will be themed far beyond this mine coaster) with two major attractions, shops and restaurants, plus adding to WWoHP in IOA in a similar if not shorter time span that Disney is taking to create this one ride. Whether this time frame was Disney's intention or not still doesn't change that fact. People are going to comment and ask "why is this thing taking so long" when you see what other parks are doing in comparison. It's not exactly a dig against Disney but a general "why?" that's going to come up.

Ha Ha-I think you bothered.

 

[fairyprincess88]

Ha Ha-I think you bothered.

Yeah that time I did since it was being said in the thread but in general I avoid it like the plaque anymore. But yeah, oops.