Seriously backwards thinking....

[loves to dive]

Re: bolded - if she doesn't have the tests and then whatever potential treatment is needed, the other option is to leave her kids without their mother. Why would any mother choose that? We're not talking about her skipping a cheeseburger so her kids can have one. We're talking about saving her life so her kids can have their mother.

It's possible that she had a false positive, happens all the time. I was a single mom and made decisions like that and don't regret one minute of it. You roll the dice and take your chance but your kid will eat supper tonight and have clothes to wear to school tomorrow.

 

[Sanchez]

Sounds like OP has no real knowledge of the situation and is playing internet judge from a high horse.

As are you with the pithy suggestion that we just adopt a plan another country uses and be done. Easy to say that, and it certainly sounds good, but for a multitude of reasons (mainly cost) it isn't a real solution. But demagogue away.

 

[DizBelle]

You can't have a discussion when you don't know the whole story. Besides you're not having a discussion about anything meaningful. You're just bashing some woman from a high horse. You are totally lacking basic compassion. It's not a good look.

I think saving a woman's life so she can be there for her children is very meaningful. How is that not meaningful? I lost my mother when I was very young so I KNOW what it is like to grow to adulthood without your mother.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think saving a woman's life so she can be there for her children is very meaningful. How is that not meaningful? I lost my mother when I was very young so I KNOW what it is like to grow to adulthood without your mother.

Nobody is saying it's not meaningful to save her life.

But someone has to pay. Who will it be in this situation?

It's an interesting question since so many more will be faced with similar situations.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Without getting political, these aren't without their own problems. My stepfather is from a county with universal healthcare and one of the downsides of it is often waiting months for referrals or tests.

Waiting months would be a big improvement over not being able to get tests at all, which is the way our current health system works for many.

 

[sunshinehighway]

I think saving a woman's life so she can be there for her children is very meaningful. How is that not meaningful? I lost my mother when I was very young so I KNOW what it is like to grow to adulthood without your mother.

This thread isn't saving her life.. not even close.

 

[pryncess527]

That's a shame. We have a HDHP plan, but the money put in our HRA covers any expenses up to the yearly deductible, thank goodness.

 

[DizBelle]

How and why is anyone discussing a situation that we know nothing about. It doesn't sound like a very intelligent discussion, does it?

So, if it's not about YOU, you can't say anything about it? We won't grow as a society if we don't talk about topics.

That's why you have discussions. To learn. I don't know this woman so I can't find out any information from her but there are folks on the DISboards that might have insights into a similar situation.

If, through this thread, I can convince ONE mother to have that further test and get the treatment that allows them to not be taken away from their children, it is all worth it.

I am still constantly amazed at how many people on the DISboards (a DISCUSSION board) don't like discussion. They just come on to threads and try to shut it down. I just don't get it. If you don't want to discuss topics, why are you here?

 

[Magpie]

Without getting political, these aren't without their own problems. My stepfather is from a county with universal healthcare and one of the downsides of it is often waiting months for referrals or tests.

As a Canadian, this has fortunately not been my experience at all.

From childbirth, to accidents and illness, to surgeries, to cancer diagnoses and treatment, to palliative care, my experience of our health care system has been entirely satisfactory. While there is no system that can't be improved in some way, I am very happy with the care my family and I have received.

 

[DizBelle]

This thread isn't saving her life.. not even close.

It might save someone else's. They may read this thread and think "Yeah, I really do need to get that test."

 

[tarheelmjfan]

That's a shame. We have a HDHP plan, but the money put in our HRA covers any expenses up to the yearly deductible, thank goodness.

Most people with good insurance don't know how fortunate they are. (i realize you're not one of those people, which is refreshing.)

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

Without getting political, these aren't without their own problems. My stepfather is from a county with universal healthcare and one of the downsides of it is often waiting months for referrals or tests.

Rarely happens for serious tests. No one is not going to the doctor when they are ill because they can't afford to see one.

 

[Magpie]

It might save someone else's. They may read this thread and think "Yeah, I really do need to get that test."

That seems highly unlikely. It's more probably that they'll read this thread and think, "They don't know me or my situation, but they're really quick to accuse me of being either a bad mother or too stupid to know what's best for my own family."

 

[DizBelle]

That seems highly unlikely. It's more probably that they'll read this thread and think, "They don't know me or my situation, but they're really quick to accuse me of being either a bad mother or too stupid to know what's best for my own family."

Maybe. Maybe not. If one life is saved, isn't it worth it?

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

Well if you feel that strongly then put up the money for her.
Or start her a go fund me.

Luckily I have amazing coverage but others don't and may just be getting by as it is so while very sad their health no longer becomes the priority.

 

[sunshinehighway]

So, if it's not about YOU, you can't say anything about it? We won't grow as a society if we don't talk about topics.

That's why you have discussions. To learn. I don't know this woman so I can't find out any information from her but there are folks on the DISboards that might have insights into a similar situation.

If, through this thread, I can convince ONE mother to have that further test and get the treatment that allows them to not be taken away from their children, it is all worth it.

I am still constantly amazed at how many people on the DISboards (a DISCUSSION board) don't like discussion. They just come on to threads and try to shut it down. I just don't get it. If you don't want to discuss topics, why are you here?

The problem is you're not having a meaningful discussion. The tone of your posts is not that you want to discuss solving a problem but that you want to judge someone who is forced to make a hard decision. You are not understanding that if someone literally doesn't have the money for additional tests, they literally can't afford to get additional tests. That's a terrible place many are put in and absolutely worth discussing.
Judging someone in that position as making a bad choice and questioning her as a mother is just mean.

 

[DizBelle]

Well if you feel that strongly then put up the money for her.
Or start her a go fund me.

Luckily I have amazing coverage but others don't and may just be getting by as it is so while very sad their health no longer becomes the priority.

If you have children, your health needs to be a priority.

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

If you have children, your health needs to be a priority.

So as I said put up the money for her so her health can be a priority.

 

[sam_gordon]

If you have children, your health needs to be a priority.

Where does the money come from to have the follow up tests?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I have made that kind of decision for myself and rolled the dice and not had the test. I would imagine if it were one of her kids, she would probably pay for the tests but if a mom has to decide whether to feed/put clothes on and a roof over her kids head or get a test for herself, kids are going to win every time. Heck my current insurance pays for a basic mamo but not a 3D, which my doctor recommends because I have issues. It will pay for an ultrasound though. So I opt for the regular mamo since I know I'll just have to have an ultrasound any way. I've had biopsy's and it has been recommended I have surgery, I've opted out because of the cost and because after research it didn't seem necessary. I don't judge anyone else for having to make those kind of choices.

I agree with this line of thinking. Some people are making tough choices.

Re: bolded - if she doesn't have the tests and then whatever potential treatment is needed, the other option is to leave her kids without their mother. Why would any mother choose that? We're not talking about her skipping a cheeseburger so her kids can have one. We're talking about saving her life so her kids can have their mother.

I doubt it's that cut and dry. She may have information that you don't, that makes her believe it's ok for whatever reason. Like, maybe they said they'd repeat the test in two months. Or maybe there were other indicators that there was a false positive. I'm sure she has no intention of leaving her kids. There's an awful lot between here and there.

It might save someone else's. They may read this thread and think "Yeah, I really do need to get that test."

I think it's a noble cause. And I'm sorry you lost your mother so young. Learning that, I can see why it's such an important and emotional issue for you. But maybe your approach could've been different, this thread seems to have gotten people pretty fired up in a short amount of time. (OTOH, a diffferent type of thread could well have gotten no, or few, replies.)