Security Background Check - Did You Know?

[com_op_2000]

Ok, so I am getting a lot of doubters on this thread.
In my job there are three levels of background checks and virtually any business can run them, if they have the information.
The first level is to check state/federal databases that are publicly available, to "see" if a person is listed as a sex offender/child molester. This is the level that Disney is running for annual passes.
The second level requires a SSN and is a financial check, This is level that Disney is running if you are DVC. My opinion added - if you are buying resale you still have to go through the ROFR, which gives Disney your information.
The third level requires a fingerprint. Then be run through NCIC/FCIC fingerprint checks.

The presentation, stated that the reason they wait until you are onsite is to present you with a cease and desist order quietly.

 

[smiths02]

That during the purchase process for DVC or Annual Pass; Disney runs a security background check on you?

For the Disaster Recovery part of my job I got a briefing today from Disney Security/Business Continuity teams and during the presentation they mention both of these specific items.

Disney did state that if they found something that they did not like in the background check; they will meet you at the gate (Annual Pass) the first time you use the pass or the DVC resort (DVC check-in), return your funds, and then escort you off property.

Why not just tell you not to come?

 

[we"reofftoneverland]

Ok, so I am getting a lot of doubters on this thread.
In my job there are three levels of background checks and virtually any business can run them, if they have the information.
The first level is to check state/federal databases that are publicly available, to "see" if a person is listed as a sex offender/child molester. This is the level that Disney is running for annual passes.
The second level requires a SSN and is a financial check, This is level that Disney is running if you are DVC. My opinion added - if you are buying resale you still have to go through the ROFR, which gives Disney your information.
The third level requires a fingerprint. Then be run through NCIC/FCIC fingerprint checks.

The presentation, stated that the reason they wait until you are onsite is to present you with a cease and desist order quietly.

Except that if you do not finance, disney doesn't have your ss#. They do not have ours.

 

[jimim]

Ok, so I am getting a lot of doubters on this thread.
In my job there are three levels of background checks and virtually any business can run them, if they have the information.
The first level is to check state/federal databases that are publicly available, to "see" if a person is listed as a sex offender/child molester. This is the level that Disney is running for annual passes.
The second level requires a SSN and is a financial check, This is level that Disney is running if you are DVC. My opinion added - if you are buying resale you still have to go through the ROFR, which gives Disney your information.
The third level requires a fingerprint. Then be run through NCIC/FCIC fingerprint checks.

The presentation, stated that the reason they wait until you are onsite is to present you with a cease and desist order quietly.

The second level makes total sense cause u r buying a large ticket item. Or financing like some do.

First level big deal cause that’s public knowledge.

Third level isn’t happening cause they don’t havexpronts like others have said.

So this doesn’t really matter in my thoughts cause it happens all the time in our lives for a lot of other stuff.

 

[jimim]

Except that if you do not finance, disney doesn't have your ss#. They do not have ours.

I don’t remember if I gave my social when I bought resale. We paid without financing.

 

[crvetter]

Ok, so I am getting a lot of doubters on this thread.
In my job there are three levels of background checks and virtually any business can run them, if they have the information.
The first level is to check state/federal databases that are publicly available, to "see" if a person is listed as a sex offender/child molester. This is the level that Disney is running for annual passes.
The second level requires a SSN and is a financial check, This is level that Disney is running if you are DVC. My opinion added - if you are buying resale you still have to go through the ROFR, which gives Disney your information.
The third level requires a fingerprint. Then be run through NCIC/FCIC fingerprint checks.

The presentation, stated that the reason they wait until you are onsite is to present you with a cease and desist order quietly.

I'm not doubting just don't think it is a thorough background check since it is specifically stated as coming form the Consumer Reporting Agencies which aren't known to be exactly accurate. Though sex offenders would probably be on the Consumer Reporting Agencies accurately.

Also I've never consented to my finger print to be used in a background check and Disney says they don't even store it per their own Privacy Policy. Also finger print science is not automated and depends on a lot of human intervention just simply wouldn't be used in this case. Even Global Entry (Federal Government) the finger prints are used to put in the database for potential future crimes committed by you and only used in a background check if a flag set it off. Simply because of the man power required. My guess if other flags said to run a finger print they would just deny Global Entry. If finger prints were used as part of the background check for Global Entry I don't think they would have said I got it in the interview then took my prints.

I maintain they probably likely do a Background Check (same as what my utility company ran on me, they called it a Background Check too) but for identity verification purposes. Obviously if it flags sex offender I'm sure they deny entry (especially if children are involved) simply because of the PR if it came out Disney knew and did nothing. Plus there are limitation instituted by the courts that prevent them from being in an amusement park likely.

 

[CarolMN]

There are different levels of background checks & not all of them require fingerprints. Our Coop does financial background checks and well as limited criminal background checks (just records, no fingerprints) for potential new owners. Many landlords do the same. (We do tell the subjects what we are looking for and they are entitled to see the results if they don't pass and so request). It's not that expensive to do, either.

You can even find out a lot on your own by just googling a name and address. Services that do public records searches aren't all that expensive. For example, if a name matches a registered sex offender, that info will come up and more extensive searches can be done to verify or confirm.

Honestly, having had to go through a pretty comprehensive check (including fingerprints) to get a securities license, I don't think this is such a big deal (and I'm pretty concerned about privacy and who might have my personal data). Actually, I'm glad that Disney is working behind the scenes to do what they can to keep the parks/resorts safe.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Ok, so I am getting a lot of doubters on this thread.
In my job there are three levels of background checks and virtually any business can run them, if they have the information.
The first level is to check state/federal databases that are publicly available, to "see" if a person is listed as a sex offender/child molester. This is the level that Disney is running for annual passes.
The second level requires a SSN and is a financial check, This is level that Disney is running if you are DVC. My opinion added - if you are buying resale you still have to go through the ROFR, which gives Disney your information.
The third level requires a fingerprint. Then be run through NCIC/FCIC fingerprint checks.

The presentation, stated that the reason they wait until you are onsite is to present you with a cease and desist order quietly.

Employers have been doing that for years. Disney is not my employer. Also employers disclose if and what they are going to do or they can get into legal trouble. In this day and age there's a lot that can be done on anyone over the internet. There's other relationship situations that will utilize backgrounds checks but again - should be disclosed.

Unless they are doing background checks on everyone who steps on their property, buys a ticket or stays in their hotels this is targeted in a weird way.....and absurd. And certainly not disclosed prominently enough.

 

[Chuck S]

...coming from the Consumer Reporting Agencies which aren't known to be exactly accurate.

That's the truth...one of the consumer agencies lists a previous address for me in San Antonio. I've lived in the same house, here in Seguin, not San Antonio, for 40 years, and it isn't an address associate with an employer or rental property I own, either.

 

[larry47591]

When we bought direct a month ago we had to include our drivers license. The guide said it was for the homeland security check.

 

[crvetter]

When we bought direct a month ago we had to include our drivers license. The guide said it was for the homeland security check.

This is consistent with the requirements that Homeland Security instituted for opening a financial product; I would assume you got a mortgage through Disney... They need to verify your identity. Same when you open a bank account, mortgage, etc. It was setup because of the 9/11 perpetrators laundering money through the US financial system.

Also verifying identity is important you don't want anyone faking you getting DVC, using it for years unknown to you, then finally stop using it (paying MF) then Disney coming after you. You wouldn't know someone did this. Granted why would anyone since they need to put out a ton of cash to buy DVC makes it unlikely scenario. Though Disney doesn't report Mortgages to credit agencies I suppose a real low-life could even do this and use it for a year or two with minimal cash outlay.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I doubt they actually use a decent fingerprint. On my last trip I was only able to enter the park one day out of six without a scanner issue. They continually had to reset my profile...

It’s not an actual fingerprint for park entrance. It’s a few points that is converted to a numerical code. The code is on file, not the fingerprint.
I don’t know if they can reverse engineer the code.
In addition, the initial print is only a few points, and not enough to be exclusionary to everyone else. I’m guessing several people have the same code.

 

[crvetter]

It’s not an actual fingerprint for park entrance. It’s a few points that is converted to a numerical code. The code is on file, not the fingerprint.
I don’t know if they can reverse engineer the code.

Precisely, a few posts back I tried to let people know that Disney isn't storing the information.

 

[Chuck S]

This is consistent with the requirements that Homeland Security instituted for opening a financial product; I would assume you got a mortgage through Disney... They need to verify your identity. Same when you open a bank account, mortgage, etc. It was setup because of the 9/11 perpetrators laundering money through the US financial system.

Also verifying identity is important you don't want anyone faking you getting DVC, using it for years unknown to you, then finally stop using it (paying MF) then Disney coming after you. You wouldn't know someone did this. Granted why would anyone since they need to put out a ton of cash to buy DVC makes it unlikely scenario. Though Disney doesn't report Mortgages to credit agencies I suppose a real low-life could even do this and use it for a year or two with minimal cash outlay.

Heck, I have to show my identity if I make a deposit in person, in the bank. Like when I took change into the coin counter and deposited $30 in cash. Not when I deposit a check or do a transfer over the phone or internet, as I assume they collect the phone number or IP data.

 

[marcyleecorgan]

Some of this background check stuff is due to the Patriot Act and its consequences for financial data of individuals

 

[Dean Marino]

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[Disneychick75]

Got an alert from Experian this morning. Background Investigations ran a check on my husband and me. Looked up the company and this is what it stated,
"Background Investigations, Inc. is a vital resource for you to use. We specialize in performing criminal background checks on job applicants who live in USA and Internationally. We know you want timely, accurate, reliable information so that you can hire the best candidates."

Neither of us have applied for new jobs. The only different thing I did was to ask Disney to send me a DVD on purchasing points. Received a call from them this morning.

 

[Chuck S]

Yah know... I have no problem with any of this - other than the wasted cash, in the form of employee-hours....

Why can I NOT just turn over my screening data from TSA PRE? Or my US Passport? Or the other thing that required a serious Federal Background check?

My gripe: Why do several Federal (and STATE) Agencies, now joined by several private businesses, have to do the same thing, over and over? Just give me a DECENT US Federal ID card. Make it optional - but then USE it.

All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong.

Well, I agree with you, as an honest person, it is unlikely much, if anything, changes between background checks. But if we were not honest people, things can change drastically between background checks, and it would show up. Look at how many (mostly younger) people are "recruited" into things like ISIS and such, or talked into things through the internet.

 

[clayfolks]

Got an alert from Experian this morning. Background Investigations ran a check on my husband and me. Looked up the company and this is what it stated,
"Background Investigations, Inc. is a vital resource for you to use. We specialize in performing criminal background checks on job applicants who live in USA and Internationally. We know you want timely, accurate, reliable information so that you can hire the best candidates."

Neither of us have applied for new jobs. The only different thing I did was to ask Disney to send me a DVD on purchasing points. Received a call from them this morning.

Those of us who have apparently been background checked when buying directly have agreed to it in the voluminous paperwork and have given them our social security numbers. If you haven’t done those things with DVC, I would suggest contacting Background Investigations, Inc because something else is going on here. Disney/DVC would not and could not conduct background checks on every individual who requests a DVC DVD.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I’m guessing this is a bankruptcy and financial type check. I can’t imagine it’s a criminal background check.
Heck, they cannot control who comes in the parks. ANYONE can purchase a park hopper through a vendor and off they go. And what if you rent your points?