Second thoughts about DC

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DH and I are booked for DC in September for his b-day (have the b-day package), but I am having second thoughts. Ok, I am getting ready to say something very preposterous since everyone raves about DC, so get ready and please don't stone me to death. I have been doing some research on "dolphin swim experiences" and without going into ugly details, it is starting to sound very commercialized. It seems that instead of learning a healthy respect and understanding that we need to keep our distance from wildlife, dolphins are almost presented as pets. Some of the establishments actually catch wild dolphins for the swims. I am certain that DC keeps their dolphins happy and I know they are not made to interact if they don't want to.... I am aware of all that, but on the other hand, a proud beautiful wild animal, that should be swimming in the open waters, is forced to push a happy birthday buoy and do tricks.... I was so exited about going there and still am looking forward to the coral reef, the pool and the relaxation aspect of the day, it's the dolphin part I am uneasy about... Am I overanalyzing??? Any of you environmentalists out there?
 
I totally understand what you mean.I was so nervous about how they treat the animals as well before I went to DC/Seaworld. I'm the kind of person who wouldn't go to the zoo because it makes me upset.
But they do a lot to protect the animals in DC. They spend a lot of time giving instructions on how to interact with the dolphins, how to touch them, what to wear (or not wear) and tell a lot about how the dolphin think and live and how we as guests in it's water can behave the best and safest way not just for ourself but also for the dolphins. In DC the dolphins have huge pools, in seaworld I think the dolphin pool is too small, but in DC they have a very big areas to play in. After each interact, the pool is closed so the dolphins have time to play with each other (there are 3 big interact pools) Dolphins are very playful animals and they do like to play and to interact (No I'm not just saying this because they told me in Seaworld, I have read about dolphins and other sea animals since I was a child)
I wouldn't be nervous about this if I were you, Seaworld/DC is the best place to get close to these animals. I would never ever do it any other places cause most places they treat the animals very bad. At seaworld they point out that these are not pets like cats and dogs, but wild animals.
I fully understand your worries, I hope this gives you an idea of how it is at seaworld. (No I don't work for seaworld, this is my own opinion after I've seen it myself...)
 
I can also understand your concerns. However, my daughter and I visited DC last Sunday and had a wonderful experience. It was a surprise for her 6th brthday and we also did the birthday package.
They do spend a lot of time giving you information about the proper treatment of the dolphins and all the trainers we met were absolutely wonderful with them. You could tell they genuinly loved the animals. DC has a great breeding program in which all of the dolphins they use are now bred and raised there. There are a few original dolphins there that were rescued and brought there when DC opened 7 years ago. We got to interact with 2 of them (Dixie and Jenny) both seemed to love the interaction. Jenny would actually swim to the shallow area by the beach just to look at the people!
The other activities are also wonderful (snorkeling with the fish, stingrays, and the lazy river). The staff were wonderful and we really had a great day.
 
I'm the kind of person who wouldn't go to the zoo because it makes me upset

I am the same way! I still cannot go to a zoo or circus, especially the latter!

I am sure that they truly love their animals in DC and treat them well, it's just the whole idea of poor dolphins having to deal with screaming kids, having to be a "tugboat" for people... Although, they do seem to enjoy human interaction. I guess I will need to go there with no preconceived notion when it comes to dolphins. I probably should stop analyzing things so much - there is a reason why people say that ignorance is a bliss :rolleyes1

Thank you both for taking time to respond - sounds like their animals are extremely well cared for. I have previously read that they have rescued dolphins and those that are bred in captivity (which I still don't agree with....breeding wild animals for human entertainment just doesn't seem right... ) but at least they are not catching the wild ones... For now, it's enough to placate my conscience.
 

a proud beautiful wild animal, that should be swimming in the open waters, is forced to push a happy birthday buoy and do tricks.... I was so exited about going there and still am looking forward to the coral reef, the pool and the relaxation aspect of the day, it's the dolphin part I am uneasy about... Am I overanalyzing??? Any of you environmentalists out there?

I wrestled with this too and came to terms with it (rationalized?) because of the educational experience it would provide to my kids and hopefully the respect they would feel for dolphins afterward. It worked from that aspect...they both loved the dolphin experience and the dolphin they swam with, even my 13-year-old who practices being cynical whenever possible. There is more of an educational than an entertainment feel to the dolphin swim.

Also, they don't let kids scream around the dolphins, there is a session beforehand where the rules are explained carefully.

The other part of it is Seaworld...of course you know that your ticket to DC also gets you into SW for a few days. We went over to watch Shamu (same set of issues) and the kids were awed by that as well.
 
Yep, I guess that's exactly what I am doing with my brain - rationalizing. Still uneasy though, but will definitely give it a try and we'll make a decision for myself whether I would like to come back again or if it is something I cannot support. I know DC website states it's educational, but, realistically speaking, how can 1 or 2 hours with dolphins be educational... My major was not Marine Biology but my electives were and I feel I haven't learned but one billionth about marine mammals (even less than that, actually)... Is it possible they are trying to mask entertainment under education? Ugh...Don't get me wrong, I LOVE to be entertained but there are certain convictions that I hard to ignore.... Of course I will not cancel our reservations and will still want to experience it for myself (watch me, I'll probably be chased by park security because I'll try to free the dolphins or something.... pull a "Free Willy" so to speak... :rotfl: :rotfl: )
 
I will have to watch the news to see if the headlines are "dolphin escapes with the help of a princess!" Good luck and I hope that you enjoy the experience as much as my family and I did. We left thinking that the animals seemed to enjoy it as much as the people.
 
DH and I are booked for DC in September for his b-day (have the b-day package), but I am having second thoughts. Ok, I am getting ready to say something very preposterous since everyone raves about DC, so get ready and please don't stone me to death.

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Fair warning to all: This is going to be a lengthy post.

Preposterous? Stoning material? Hardly (having read more of your original post). My wife and I, plus two other friends, went to DC in November of 2003. All four of us came away far less than impressed overall, and our consensus was "Go for the Aviary and river-swimming. Forget DC's excuse for a dolphin 'encounter.'"

Trust me, you're not the only one to have second thoughts, though ours were for very different reasons. You do, however, raise some interesting points.

I have been doing some research on "dolphin swim experiences" and without going into ugly details, it is starting to sound very commercialized. It seems that instead of learning a healthy respect and understanding that we need to keep our distance from wildlife, dolphins are almost presented as pets.

Whoa. Stop right there. I can see you've got an interesting mix of misconceptions and accurate observations going. I'm also curious where you got the "pets" perception from. None of the programs I've ever visited, not even Sea World, gave me that impression.

Before I bore into this, know that I'm in a unique position to comment. I've maintained an active interest in marine mammals, dolphins included, for about 30 or so years. I've visited most of the oceanariums in the US and Canada, three in Mexico, and one in the Bahamas. All that gives me a good perspective from the public side.

On the 'professional' side, I've also worked as a volunteer trainer's assistant at two facilities (Oklahoma City Zoo and Six Flags Magic Mountain -- yes, they had a dolphin show many years ago).

Now, with all that said: There can be no doubt that swim-with-the-dolphins operations are very much commercialized. Honestly, there's no way to avoid that. I will say that, with very few exceptions, every interactive program I've observed (and participated in) to date does a fine job of taking care of their charges (both human and cetacean). Some give much better 'experiences' than others. However, being leery of a swim-with program because it's "commercial" is like blaming Disney or Universal for being that way.

I do take strong exception to your overly broad-sounding statement that we need to "keep our distance" from wildlife. You make it sound almost as though we need to live in fear of the critters we share the planet with, and never allow ourselves contact with them.

Well, guess what? Contact between us and 'wildlife' is becoming less avoidable almost every day, thanks to our species' seemingly endless quest to pave over natural habitat and stick buildings on it. However you may feel about such things (and that's a whole 'nother can of worms that I won't go into here), the truth of the matter is that it's rapidly getting to a point where we can no more "keep our distance" than we can avoid breathing.

Given the above, it seems to me that the least we can do is learn how to conduct ourselves around animals. Interactive programs, properly designed and run, can give a lot of people a lot of help with that, no matter what species they're focusing on.

As for wild captures of dolphins for the programs: That might still be happening with facilities outside the United States, but I don't know of any permits that have been issued by or within the US for wild capture of any dolphins for at least the last 15 years. The reason for that has been the runaway success of captive breeding where dolphins are concerned. Heck, it's tough to KEEP them from trying to make more dolphins! ;-)

The point I'm making is that the impact on wild dolphin populations is going to be pretty miniscule at best. Lord knows it's a lot smaller than the toll exacted by pollution (chemical and noise), red-tide events, and idiotic fisherfolk who think it's fun to take potshots (yes, with a rifle) at any competition for "their" fish, dolphins included.

You also raise a 'classic' argument of the animal rights groups, about the animals being taken out of the wild and "forced" to do "tricks." There's more than a few misconceptions operating there. First and foremost is that dolphins are easily smart enough to get bored if they're not given SOME kind of mental and/or physical challenge to work on. Having dolphins in a captive environment and NOT doing any sort of training would actually be far worse.

In any case, most behaviors you see in a dolphin show or at a swim-with program are either natural behaviors placed on cue, or extensions of natural behaviors (also placed on cue).

Some examples: A tailwalk? Extension of a natural behavior called 'spyhopping,' where an animal will stick their head vertically out of the water to look around. Breaching? They do that in the wild. Jumps? Wild again. Pushing objects around? Yep. Seen all over the wild.

The very idea that a human could "force" a dolphin or whale to do anything they didn't want to is laughable at best. You're talking about an animal that, at their smallest, outweighs a typical human by over 200 pounds, and most of that is pure, powerful muscle. It'd be like you walking up to a Sumo wrestler, and demanding that they be your slave or something similar. Not gonna happen.

Now, with all the above said, let me get down to Discovery Cove and Sea World, specifically. I had multiple problems with their idea of a dolphin "swim," including:

--Far too little time in the water for the money.

--No free-swim time at all, where you and the dolphin(s) involved are essentially left to interact with each other as each sees fit within reason (yes, there are programs that do this, and they do it very well!)

--Pre-swim "briefing" and post-swim "debriefing" were far more about trumpeting how great the Almighty Sea World is, and trying to sell you overpriced souvenirs, than they were about truly educating folks. They also demonize wild encounters far more than is deserved.

Regrettably, the best swim-with experiences cannot easily be found within US borders. For that, you need to visit southeastern Mexico, more specifically Xcaret and Xel Ha on the Yucatan Peninsula. I can provide further details if you're curious.

The bottom line: Discovery Cove is a nice enough stop. If you like birds and deer, you'll go gaga over the aviary (rightly so, IMO!)

HOWEVER -- If you're serious about wanting to get an HONEST perspective of dolphins, and not just looking for a contrived photo-op, then you need to look elsewhere. If Mexico is too far, the Dolphin Research Center or Theater of the Sea, both in the Florida Keys, will give you a much better value for your $$.

In closing: I find it ironic that, when the swim-with programs were still experimental and just getting started, way back in the mid-80's, Sea World was among the first to condemn the entire idea.

A decade or so later, they embraced it. My guess is that they didn't want anyone else trying it until they could figure a way to have it make money for them.

Happy travels.
 
Hi kc7gr! Thank you so much for such detailed post!! This was super interesting and very educational!! I do not, per se, have a formed opinion on dolphin experiences as I have never done this myself and the only notion I have is from bits and pieces of information I saw online and wanted to get feedback from others, who may have knowledge about these programs and/or experience.

I don't think I have expressed myself clearly when I said we need to "keep our distance" from wildlife. DC description of dolphin swim (pre and post-briefing) did not seem educational but rather commercial. I was watching something on Discovery (don't' recall the name of the program); the synopsis of the "drama" is as follows: a lady and her children got off the boat and went for a swim with a wild dolphin while boating out in the ocean. The consequences were not so pleasant. That is what I mean by treating dolphins like pets. I personally feel people should be educated that these marine mammals are not "Flipper" but are still wild animals. That's what I was trying to convey. I most definitely believe that we all need to learn how to live in harmony with wildlife, especially, as you noted, since humanity is so eager to take over the last of the habitats.

I completely agree with necessity of enrichment for the captive animals! But the actual fact of captivity is a bit sad (whether rescued or bred in captivity) These dolphins will not know anything but this small (compared to other bodies of water) lagoon. I have no doubt that DC/Sea World would never capture wild dolphins, but was referring to some of the programs outside of US.

I am just trying to understand whether dolphin swim is a type of industry I personally can support (as a whole); whether I should make a definite distinction between US programs vs. some of the inhumane operations outside of the US.. I don't know enough about it to understand whether I am falling into the trap consumerism or if this is truly a conservation effort worthy of support. I am still looking forward to other aspects of DC, but I don't know where I stand when it comes to dolphin swim due to lack of in-depth knowledge. Again, may be I am totally overanalyzing. :confused3
 
Fair warning to the board's readers - Another long one.

Before I get started for real, let me make a quick book suggestion: "Spectacular Nature: Corporate Culture and the Sea World Experience," by Susan Davis, University of California Press. Highly recommended reading for anyone who's truly curious about what motivates Sea World, and why they do what they do. Should be available from Amazon, your local library, wherever.

Hi kc7gr! Thank you so much for such detailed post!! This was super interesting and very educational!! I do not, per se, have a formed opinion on dolphin experiences as I have never done this myself and the only notion I have is from bits and pieces of information I saw online and wanted to get feedback from others, who may have knowledge about these programs and/or experience.

Ah. Then I'm glad I'm in a position to help a bit. :thumbsup2

I don't think I have expressed myself clearly when I said we need to "keep our distance" from wildlife. DC description of dolphin swim (pre and post-briefing) did not seem educational but rather commercial.

Oh, no argument from me at all on that score! I found it to be equally useless. It seemed much more an opportunity for Sea World to trumpet how great they were than actually giving us useful tips for quality dolphin interaction.

I was watching something on Discovery (don't' recall the name of the program); the synopsis of the "drama" is as follows: a lady and her children got off the boat and went for a swim with a wild dolphin while boating out in the ocean. The consequences were not so pleasant. That is what I mean by treating dolphins like pets.

Now I'm really curious. I have a great deal of skepticism when it comes to the Discovery Channel's material, so I would very much like to know where they got their details on this incident, and learn more about the incident itself, before I form a definitive opinion.


I personally feel people should be educated that these marine mammals are not "Flipper" but are still wild animals. That's what I was trying to convey. I most definitely believe that we all need to learn how to live in harmony with wildlife, especially, as you noted, since humanity is so eager to take over the last of the habitats.

BRAVO! :thumbsup2 I couldn't agree more! Yes, it is possible to interact safely with almost any animal, dolphins included. HOWEVER -- The one thing you CANNOT do with wild critters is just walk up and start trying to play with them like you would a household pet. It Just Doesn't Work That Way!

Thanks for clarifying that.

I completely agree with necessity of enrichment for the captive animals! But the actual fact of captivity is a bit sad (whether rescued or bred in captivity) These dolphins will not know anything but this small (compared to other bodies of water) lagoon.

An interesting point. Unfortunately, short of being able to ask the critters outright (and I think we're still several decades away from even coming close), we'll never know for sure.

The tricky part is that all dolphins are individuals, with their distinct personalities. I've met animals who can't seem to get enough of people, others who can't stand them, and all degrees in between. They are much like us in that regard. Who can say for certain what a dolphin )or any animal for that matter) thinks or experiences in the wild vs. captivity?

I hope we'll know someday. I hope to see the day come, in my lifetime, when we no longer need zoos and oceanariums as we know them today. It will be a day when we can, as a species, stand up and say "We need to take much better care of the planet, cost be hanged, and that's going to start right now."

I am just trying to understand whether dolphin swim is a type of industry I personally can support (as a whole); whether I should make a definite distinction between US programs vs. some of the inhumane operations outside of the US.. I don't know enough about it to understand whether I am falling into the trap consumerism or if this is truly a conservation effort worthy of support.

The good news is that you're asking such questions. The bad news is that, with any enterprise (swim-with programs included), you're going to see a few 'bad apples.' It's unavoidable.

I will say that (thankfully) I've yet to encounter ANY facility or program in my travels that I could truly call a 'bad apple.' I tend to believe that such places are self-destructive by nature, and go out of business before they can do any lasting harm.

Only you can decide who to support. It is my opinion that Discovery Cove does a poor job of presenting an 'honest' experience with the dolphins to the visiting public. Their sessions are loaded far too heavily with Sea World propaganda, and they focus far too much on the 'marketing' side vs. teaching people what I think they need to know about dolphins.

You see, it's in Sea World's own business interest to perpetuate that very "Flipper" image you mentioned. The more people they can brainwash about how "cute" dolphins are, the more gate receipts they can keep pulling in. Oh, the truth on the "education" side is there for those who truly want to seek it, but that takes actual work. Sea World is counting on the idea that most of its visitors are going to be too lazy to look further than their own immediate experience.

I am still looking forward to other aspects of DC, but I don't know where I stand when it comes to dolphin swim due to lack of in-depth knowledge. Again, may be I am totally overanalyzing. :confused3

No, I don't think you are. I think you're asking very serious, very valid questions that Sea World would likely prefer not even be asked.

As I said, only you can decide for yourself. However, I do have a suggestion. Go ahead and do Discovery Cove. Then, next time you have some travel time and funds, take a trip down to the Florida Keys, specifically to Islamorada and/or Grassy Key. Try the swim-with programs at Dolphin Research Center and Theater of the Sea. I think you will find some glaring differences, not just in the interactive programs but in how the staff treat their animals and visitors alike.

Travel broadens the mind and perspective, as I'm sure you're aware. You don't have to come anywhere close to how many miles I've racked up to figure this one out.

In closing, let me say that there is no hard-and-fast line that says facilities and interactive programs outside the US are going to be 'inhumane' vs. those in the US. Each facility is different, and deeply reflects the culture of whatever part of the world it's in. Assume NOTHING until you've actually SEEN.

Frankly, I think the two parks I mentioned before (in Mexico -- Xcaret and Xel Ha) do a far better job than ANY US park I've visited to date in terms of quality of their interactive programs. The animal care and training also seem to be top-notch, and the facilities (which are simply natural coves just off the open ocean) are beyond reproach. I hope you can visit there someday (Heck, I hope EVERYONE can visit there someday!)

Wherever you go, whatever program you visit, keep an open mind. You may be surprised what you discover.

Happy travels.
 
Now I'm really curious. I have a great deal of skepticism when it comes to the Discovery Channel's material, so I would very much like to know where they got their details on this incident, and learn more about the incident itself, before I form a definitive opinion.
I'll try to dig up something online. It was a documentary and the woman, who was attacked by a dolphin, was telling the story herself. Trust me, I don't take everything I see/hear on Discovery as the scientific fact, but this was just a documentary. Of course we don't know what those kids did in the water and whether they were taunting the animal....


.As I said, only you can decide for yourself. However, I do have a suggestion. Go ahead and do Discovery Cove.
Oh we are definitely going. Mainly, I am looking forward to relaxing at the coral reef/tropical river/pool/beach in a less crowded atmosphere. I would pay any amount of money for that! The dolphin swim... well, I'll have to see for myself what I think of it after I experience it myself.


It would be very interesting to compare swim experiences at DC with the ones you mentioned at Xcaret and Xel Ha. We go overseas twice a year and I came across a couple of swim-with-a-dolphin offers, but they were inside dolphinariums and it was not really appealing to us.
 
I don't want to offend anyone and this may sound like a stupid question but... If you're really so concerned by the idea/concept/method of the dolphin interaction at DC, why not save yourself $100 and just do the non-swim version of the day?
Maybe it's just me but I know I would hate to spend that kind of money on any experience only to be upset at the end of of all by something I knew beforehand was going to happen.
 
You are not offending anyone - no worries! I thought about not doing the swim, but since the whole trip is for my DH, I didn't want him to miss out on the swim because of my convictions and doubts. He might like it. My goal was to take him somewhere relaxing, without huge crowds. DH loves to snorkel and to scuba dive and, since I won't be surprising him with a trip to Great Barrier Reef for a while ;) , I thought DC would be a nice experience (which I am sure it'll be great for relaxation). I don't want to share my concerns with him since it's a surprise. Besides, they are my concerns and he may feel completely different so I do not want to give him any preconcieved notion.
 
As I said, only you can decide for yourself. However, I do have a suggestion. Go ahead and do Discovery Cove. Then, next time you have some travel time and funds, take a trip down to the Florida Keys, specifically to Islamorada and/or Grassy Key. Try the swim-with programs at Dolphin Research Center and Theater of the Sea. I think you will find some glaring differences, not just in the interactive programs but in how the staff treat their animals and visitors alike.

Travel broadens the mind and perspective, as I'm sure you're aware. You don't have to come anywhere close to how many miles I've racked up to figure this one out.

In closing, let me say that there is no hard-and-fast line that says facilities and interactive programs outside the US are going to be 'inhumane' vs. those in the US. Each facility is different, and deeply reflects the culture of whatever part of the world it's in. Assume NOTHING until you've actually SEEN.

Frankly, I think the two parks I mentioned before (in Mexico -- Xcaret and Xel Ha) do a far better job than ANY US park I've visited to date in terms of quality of their interactive programs. The animal care and training also seem to be top-notch, and the facilities (which are simply natural coves just off the open ocean) are beyond reproach. I hope you can visit there someday (Heck, I hope EVERYONE can visit there someday!)

Wherever you go, whatever program you visit, keep an open mind. You may be surprised what you discover.

Happy travels.


We LOVE Xcaret and Xel-Ha and have done the dolphin swim at Xcaret several times. It is much longer and better than DC. I think they tried to model DC after Xcaret:) I love the free swim time at Xcaret. We have also swam at the Dolphin Research Center and it is geat as well-all free swim time.
 
I did a lot of work with Harbor Branch here in Vero in my younger years...thought about being on the staff....but.....
I thought the message that DC gave in the video presentation before the swim was quite clear, Do not swim with dolphins in the wild. They even mention the Federal Marine Mammal Protection act a bit and why you can not swim with them in the wild. They do tell you that these dolphins have been trained, ad yeah, its a little commercialized....but its still informative about what not to do.
Our trainer was very clear on how our particular dolphin liked to be treated, and how not to do things, and also explained to us about how the dolphins are used in a rotation so that none of them get more than just a few hours exposure to the guests.
I may be wrong with my numbers...its been a few years....but dolphins generally live in the wild for about 25-28 years. We had the oldest dolphin in captivity, Capricorn who was actually "Cindy" from JAWS3. He was, I think 35. He is the oldest dolphin in captivity. His teeth were mostly gone from old age, but did he seem to love the attention.
Dolphins are social creatures, in fact they exhibit a lot of the same behavior habits as people do with things like family structure, homosexuality, sex for pleasure, social groups or "gangs" and even the unpleasant side such as rape. I have no doubt that a creature of this magnitude can get a little perturbed at so many people....but at the same time, I have no doubt how much they love the attention.
Just go and have fun, do the dolphin swim once...if you dont like it, you dont have to do it again.
 
I wanted to give a quick update about our DC trip. We had a fantastic time there on Saturday! In fact, we enjoyed it so much, we are going back this coming Sunday (but without the dolphin swim). We even enjoyed the swim, although, it was very scripted and commercialized, but was still quite entertaining. I’ll give a synopsis of our day, but will not bore you with hour-by-hour account of our trip since everyone knows how it all works already.

We chose not to be there by 8am since we both refuse to wake up early when on vacation. However, we did get there just a little after 9am. The line to check in was very short and within few minutes we were already walking to meet our “tour guide”. My DH and I both thought that landscaping was simply spectacular!!! Once we were fitted for the swim vests, we decided to grab a quick bite and headed over to have breakfast. Our dolphin swim was at 12:05 and it made sense to us to first have breakfast, then hang out at the aviary, take some pictures and videos of the park.

Our usual breakfast is a cup of tea or coffee with a piece of bread and cheese; therefore, the continental breakfast DC offers was perfect for us (do not expect traditional heavy American breakfast). There was variety of muffins, Danishes, croissants, as well as fruits, yogurts, cereal with milk etc. For beverages, there is a choice of hot tea, coffee, juice, soda and milk. I am sure I am omitting some of the choices but these are the ones I remembered.

Aviary was a bit crowded but still very enjoyable! I am not a fan of birds but some of the species there were amazing!! We took a ton of pictures and videos, walked around the reef and pool and headed back to the lockers to change into swimsuits for the dolphin swim. Our dolphin was Rascal and after very scripted “line up here, turn this way, pet here, touch there”, we had our swim and dolphins did their tricks, which was a lot of fun to watch. Such amazing animals! We are definitely going to try a swim in Mexico for a true interaction; however, we still very much enjoyed our time with Rascal. I purchased a b-day package for DH and dolphin was supposed to bring a Happy B-day buoy. Well, Rascal decided that it’s more fun to play with it in the middle of the lagoon than to give it up to some stranger:rotfl: . All groups were already out of the water by then, but trainers had to bring another dolphin since Rascal, apparently, decided not to come back:rotfl: . CJ was our second dolphin (hybrid), who also took off with the buoy after we had an opportunity to pet him. Then trainers had to bring over a third dolphin:lmao: ! I do not remember her name but she was a lot calmer and DH finally got his buoy. We were laughing so hard at Rascal and CJ! At least, we got to meet 3 (!) dolphins and our interaction in the water was a lot longer then 30 minutes :thumbsup2 .

I wanted to comment on my previous concerns in regards to dolphins raised in captivity. While I am still saddened to see animals in captivity, these dolphins truly seemed happy and, as I witnessed myself (above), they are definitely not forced to do anything they do not want. This was very encouraging to me.

The rest of the day we spent doing what everyone else does in the park – no need to describe. The reef was amazing! DH is a certified diver and has done “real” dives in military, as well as civilian. I thought he may think it’s “cheesy”, but he seemed to truly enjoy it. To me, a person with many phobias of water, sharks, depth, height etc (my DH calls me "princess on a pea"), this was a truly amazing experience. It took my breath away to see a giant ray float effortlessly just a few centimeters below me. I was simply in awe. The water was cool so we switched frequently between coral reef/ray lagoon and lazy river.

Lunch was fantastic. I had lobster salad and DH had salmon – both quite tasty. We also had a table reserved with all of the birthday people and DH got a cake (pure sugar, but nicely decorated). It was a very relaxing and pleasant day. The weather was perfect: a bit cloudy but it did not feel like we were being baked alive. Originally, we decided not to buy pics and video since we had lots of very good digital pictures as well as video of our own; however, we then changed our minds since we’d end up with no pics of the actual dolphin swim and there were some very good ones of DH with b-day buoy with dolphin and so on. We chose the basic package and video. For some reason, the girl, who was helping us with pictures, advised that the entire package is free based on the note by one of the managers. We asked her to clarify as we did not want to take advantage of a possible mistake. She left and came back with the same answer. We are still confused as to why they gave it to us at no charge with two extra pictures above the ones included in the package + the one included in b-day package, but are very thankful for that. I also bought a cute picture frame as a souvenir.

I am really looking forward to going back this coming Sunday – it was truly a very relaxing park with fantastic customer service. Every detail is thought through from lockers to plastic bags for wet swimsuits. It was supposed to be a short synopsis but turned into a “trip report” – sorry! Hope it helps someone who is going to the park for the first time.
 
Im glad you had a great time,
I was disapointed when you said you were not writing a report, but then I kept reading and it looks like you made yourself a trip report:)
 
I wanted to comment on my previous concerns in regards to dolphins raised in captivity. While I am still saddened to see animals in captivity, these dolphins truly seemed happy and, as I witnessed myself (above), they are definitely not forced to do anything they do not want. This was very encouraging to me.

I'm glad you had a good time and that you were able to see that the dolphins are not subjected to screaming kids and so forth. I just framed and hung the photos of each of my children with "their" dolphin, Rose.
 
(snippety)
I thought the message that DC gave in the video presentation before the swim was quite clear, Do not swim with dolphins in the wild. They even mention the Federal Marine Mammal Protection act a bit and why you can not swim with them in the wild...
(snippety-two)

And what they completely fail to mention, and what the laws consistently fail to recognize, is that dolphins are more than smart enough and curious enough to choose to investigate ANYthing they may come across in the open ocean, swimmers included.

Some of these encounters have, I grant you, turned out to be 'negatives.' However, it has also been my impression that any negative experience has been due entirely to the human(s) involved doing something stupid. Example: One swimmer off the coast of South America thought it would be funny to jam a popsicle stick into a wild dolphin's blowhole. He got pretty badly beat up in response.

Now, some would condemn the dolphin involved. But how would you react if someone came strolling up to you and jammed a popsicle stick up your nose? And you could not, for whatever reason, breathe through your mouth? (Dolphins can only breathe through their blowhole).

There have also been peaceful and positive encounters between humans and wild dolphins for millennia (that's thousands of years). You don't have to take my word for it. Dig into National Geographic, particularly the 1966 special issue they did on dolphins. You'll find, among other things, details about how native fisherfolk in (if I recall correctly) Micronesia have been doing cooperative fishing with the aid of wild dolphin pods for longer than I care to think about.

Want something more current? Google for "Monkey Mia, West Australia." Google for "Dingle" and "Ireland." Heck, Google for "Wild Dolphin Encounters." You'll probably get more hits than you'd ever want.

Want evidence from further back? Dig into Greek history. Dolphins were sacred to them for centuries, and figure prominently in their cultural mythos.

The bottom line is that encounters between humans and wild marine mammals (I'm not limiting it to just dolphins) have been going on for longer than any of us have been around, and they will likely be going on long after we're all gone to dust. Given that, does it really make sense teaching people to fear wild encounters, as Sea World and our government are doing?

I don't think so. Fear leads to misunderstanding, which leads to more fear, which leads to anger, which all leads to a much greater chance that some drunken idiot will take a potshot (yes, with a rifle or pistol) at whatever dolphins they see just because -- they're afraid!

If Sea World truly cared about the critters more than they care about their business model, they'd be telling people that dolphins are indeed curious and intelligent, and that a wild encounter will probably happen sooner or later (well, for those that live near the ocean anyway). They would also be telling people what to do if approached (remain calm and still, don't try to interact unless the animal starts it AND you're comfortable with the idea) and, more importantly, what NOT to do (don't chase, don't feed, don't grab, DON'T PANIC!)

The thing that's always bothered me the most about our current laws is that, although they do prohibit (rightly so) "harassment" of the animals, they are most unclear about what does and does not constitute "harassment." The law makes NO allowance whatsoever for the fact that dolphins are as naturally curious as they are, and that they will, under the right conditions, approach humans and interact with them.

Here's one other point of interest. If interaction with wild dolphins was suddenly such a huge and dangerous problem, it would be a worldwide one. Given that, it makes sense that every oceanarium on the planet would be issuing dire warnings about it.

Are they? No! Never ONCE during the presentations at the Mexican parks did I hear Word One about how horrible wild interaction is for both people and animals. This irrational fear-mongering seems to be indemic only to the USA, as so many other irrationalities are.

(whoof!) It's late, I've rambled long enough. Have a great evening, all.
 





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